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41  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: (~50 Gh/s, OPEN REGISTRATION) New pool with proportional and pay-per-share modes on: March 08, 2011, 11:07:05 PM
Thank you Lex; that's a really cool web-site.
42  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: (~50 Gh/s, OPEN REGISTRATION) New pool with proportional and pay-per-share modes on: March 08, 2011, 10:56:38 PM
Which web-site provides info about the next expected difficulty value and date please? http://nullvoid.org/bitcoin/ is down 99% of the time.
43  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hey new miner here, looking for some feedback...thanks in advance on: March 08, 2011, 05:36:31 PM
Do I just stop generating coins? Will the GPU continue to generate coins even if it is disabled in bitcoin?
Yes, just stop generating. Yes, you'll continue to generate coins even if generation is disabled in Bitcoin software.
44  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 08, 2011, 12:39:25 PM
250 shares/hour here @300MH/s.
45  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [NEW POOL & NEW MINER] - BitcoinPool.com - Jump In! on: March 08, 2011, 12:35:51 PM
Our pool pays miners equally for each share they submit to the server.  Our pool does proportional payments based on the number of shares your miner has contributed to the current round.  This pool does not support the “pay-per-share” method seen by some other mining pools, or stupid “weight based” shares which favor faster cards and punishes the fair and hard working miners who have limited resources.
Just so that i understand, you meant you don't like the option of either having Proportional or Pay-per-Share? Because if PPS is unfair, the user can simply choose Proportional. Other than that, how is your system not weight-based? I kept reading that sentence more than once trying to understand it; the whole quote above actually. Can you please elaborate? Thank you.
46  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 03:45:52 PM
If I understand correctly, you get paid for every share to find with PPS, and with proportional you get paid the number of shares you contributed to finding a block?

Here you go ...

I just want to make sure i've understood the difference, please ...
Proportional: Reward is based on finding a block. (I think i'm wrong here)
Pay-per-Share: Reward is based on the number of shares submitted, and the price specified on the homepage per share.
Yes, you are right.
Proportional: you get your part of the block when it's found. If you submitted 10000 shares and the block took 20000 to solve, you get half of all the reward.
Pay-per-Share: you get that fixed price for every share instantly, even if block is not found yet.

This does need to be simplified a bit more, e.g.

Proportional: . . .  you get half of all the reward, less three percent, which is commission to the pool operator.
Pay-per-Share: . . . that fixed price is, on average, ten percent less than you would get on a statistical average over the long term.

I think these are fair commissions as they are in line with others.  I mention it here only because if it is not completely clear to everyone, people are going to jump all over you when they finally get a clue and they are going to accuse you of cheating them.  Look at Slush's pool . . . people were asking him pointed questions, as if he were up to no good, at a time he wasn't even charging anything.  Just FYI, the only reason I left Slush's pool is that I was getting a large percentage of invalid/stale responses which may have accounted for a percentage of loss larger than anyone's commission.  That may have been a problem on my end, and not with Slush's pool, but since it has apparently been eliminated, I will stick with your pool for awhile.  My motto:  Put all of your eggs in one basket.  Then watch that basket.
47  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 02:55:29 PM
So it's someone called "Tyco" who steals all my profit ?
LOL, sorry man, i wrote it as i pronounced it; forgot there's an "h". Honest mistake Cheesy.
48  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
PPS is a way for some people who lose too much to Proportional because of not mining 24/7. But also, it brings more profit to Tyco. From what i've seen, and the averages i've calculated, it's exactly the same for Tyco, he doesn't pay anything from his own pocket in the long run. Except that PPS gives him 7% more profit, but more beneficial for some people.

PPS rate is calculated from the current difficulty. So it will be re-adjusted as soon as the new difficulty is set. He does not change it during any given difficulty.

If i'm mistaken, please correct me.
49  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~50 Gh/s on: March 07, 2011, 12:04:46 PM
It's always the same on average, as i said earlier.
I've noticed that indeed. In the end if you work on both 24/7 it should even-out sometime to be the same average. In Proportional mode my average fluctuates between 0.16BTC and 0.25BTC per hour (0.202 average). In PPS it's always 0.2 exactly. I'm currently using PPS just because i sometimes lose connection, and when it returns it sends shares during the long sessions in Proportional, which makes my average drop too low.
50  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Optimizing ATI performance, 6950 in particular on: March 06, 2011, 08:00:13 AM
It's been widely reported that reference 6950s have identical PCBs to 6970s, and there are various unlock methods available.
It's been a long time since I heard of successful shader unlocks. Guess the 6950 is bringing it back.
51  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~45 Gh/s on: March 06, 2011, 05:18:38 AM
which number I have to put for my config and from where do I get them?
Add a row just below the first row, copy the row below the one you just added (for the equations), then paste it in the new empty row, then replace the Hours, Minutes, and Reward cells.

I know it's ridiculously annoying, but i didn't make it for the public, sorry. I hope Tyco makes something like this on his web-site.
52  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Optimizing ATI performance, 6950 in particular on: March 06, 2011, 05:18:09 AM
Flashed the HIS Shader Only unlock
I thought they were laser-cut. Anyway, that's a great boost in performance, nice work.
53  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~45 Gh/s on: March 05, 2011, 07:10:46 PM
That sheet looks cool, are you considering sharing it? Or does it work only for you?
Ask all you want man, no worries. If you want, i'd share it of course. You have to populate it from the "statistics" page on deepbit's web-site though. It works for a single person only. Just fill the Hours column with the "Hours" it took to give you each reward, and the minutes with the minutes, and the reward with the reward given, that's it. My style is always n00bish at programming (whatever form), that's why any script/program i've ever made looked completely n00by Cheesy. If you have any questions just ask me in a PM please.

MiningHourlyAvg (55590).zip

note: Upload folder on the forums is full.
54  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~45 Gh/s on: March 05, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
No problem.

I think my Excel sheet needs revision. It's totally off. Anyway, the average so far is higher than the PPS average by 22% over the period of 3 days (0.2 vs 0.243). At least for me. So i'm happy.
55  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~45 Gh/s on: March 05, 2011, 06:18:24 PM
Thought i'd make myself a simple script to show me when i go below 0.2 hourly average (PPS average, to switch to that). deepbit is treating me well Smiley.

56  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~40 Gh/s on: March 05, 2011, 11:56:31 AM
Could someone explain proportional/pay per share in a way that i understand?

Here you go ...

I just want to make sure i've understood the difference, please ...
Proportional: Reward is based on finding a block. (I think i'm wrong here)
Pay-per-Share: Reward is based on the number of shares submitted, and the price specified on the homepage per share.
Yes, you are right.
Proportional: you get your part of the block when it's found. If you submitted 10000 shares and the block took 20000 to solve, you get half of all the reward.
Pay-per-Share: you get that fixed price for every share instantly, even if block is not found yet.

This does need to be simplified a bit more, e.g.

Proportional: . . .  you get half of all the reward, less three percent, which is commission to the pool operator.
Pay-per-Share: . . . that fixed price is, on average, ten percent less than you would get on a statistical average over the long term.

I think these are fair commissions as they are in line with others.  I mention it here only because if it is not completely clear to everyone, people are going to jump all over you when they finally get a clue and they are going to accuse you of cheating them.  Look at Slush's pool . . . people were asking him pointed questions, as if he were up to no good, at a time he wasn't even charging anything.  Just FYI, the only reason I left Slush's pool is that I was getting a large percentage of invalid/stale responses which may have accounted for a percentage of loss larger than anyone's commission.  That may have been a problem on my end, and not with Slush's pool, but since it has apparently been eliminated, I will stick with your pool for awhile.  My motto:  Put all of your eggs in one basket.  Then watch that basket.
57  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 04, 2011, 09:16:21 AM
if you say earning == BTC per day, then you're right as far as it gets less every 2016 blocks, but 1 BTC might have more value in 3 months than today, you seem to know the future price already, i don't.
Please, no sarcasm. You're right indeed, I forgot about the supply/demand rule, thanks. Time to re-think it over again, but i kindly disagree with you on the point that if it takes 3 years to generate a block at the same exchange rate, no-one will mine; let's agree to disagree on that.
58  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 04, 2011, 07:32:16 AM
the 1 block/10 minutes is hard-coded into the system. If the difficulty gets too high, it will be reduced to maintain this.
Thanks, seems i missed that while reading, thanks for correcting me. So, to actually depend on fees, we'll have to reach the point where the block generations rewards too little? That's too far away, so i guess we can enjoy it for a while longer than i thought Cheesy.
59  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 04, 2011, 12:10:53 AM
i'd like to see, what those calculations are based on
Try it yourself first, then tell me if what i'm saying is incorrect.

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oh, so it will be worth mining for a few bitcents/block, but not worth it for 50bitcoins/block?   Huh
Think about it; in the future when you start to get a block every 3 months, what will motivate you to continue mining? Then people will start to notice their transactions aren't going through, they'll read around and get the hint that in order to make their transactions be included in a miner's block, they should motivate him by adding a fee. Imagine how many transactions are in that long awaited block.

Well, it's just my opinion anyway, based on what i've read so far. If you disagree, by all means, share your opinion.

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Don't earnings become 2/3 every 10 days or so?
Why not? Again, calculate it yourself then tell me if what i'm saying is incorrect. No shame in being wrong, but don't just say no and leave it at that.
60  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: New pool with proportional and pay-per-share reward distribution, ~30 Gh/s on: March 03, 2011, 09:08:24 PM
So if anyone can do this, not much harm can be done anyway.
Keyword! No-one who would think about doing such attack can spend so much, or even if he can it would be pointless to him. Unless he's a rich sadist.
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