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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GSW vs CAVS on: June 15, 2016, 05:47:25 PM
Cleveland is one of the few teams that can match the Warriors when they go small. That's why Kerr doesn't do it much against them. The Cavaliers can run out LeBron at center against Green, Jefferson against Iguodala, Smith against Barnes, Shumpert against Thompson, and Irving against Curry. Draymond Green is not winning a matchup against LeBron James. And Irving is winning the duel vs. Curry in the series. Iguodala has a slight edge on Jefferson. Thompson has the edge on Smith. Shumpert and Barnes have both sucked this series, but Shumpert is a better defender and athlete. So, it's a stalemate. But, I doubt you'll see these lineups much.
62  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Daily Campaign - Double your winnings @ Coinbet24.com on: June 15, 2016, 05:00:20 PM
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63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 15, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
Arbitrage betting is the only way to make constant profits from sports betting. You don't even need to have interest in sports or betting to take advantage of an arbitrage bet and make extra money online. Arbitrage is a trading technique that uses the difference in the price (odds) to make instant profit. The principle of arbitrage is ‘sure betting‘, supposedly with minimum risk (for the seasoned arbitrageur) and long-term, guaranteed profits. The profits are tiny, so having a big betting bank is the only way to make it worthwhile.
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exhangers - Fake Volumes- FRAUD on: June 15, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
The Centralized Bitcoin exchanges seem to coordinate their prices across continental divides. One goes down – they all go down. The question is why the public tolerates their scam. If they were useful or desirable, they’d consider the very people who sustain the Bitcoin network, namely Bitcoin miners. Exchange clients and miners get whatever is happening in the busiest exchange. The exchanges’ arbitrage bots equalize prices between one another. Miners – you’re the backbone of this innovation. Cryptomonkeys – you think you’re trading – but your centralized exchange rides you bare-back.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016 NBA Finals on: June 14, 2016, 06:01:45 PM
Man I love the Cavs, What a game that was. Lebron is a beast. Without Draymond Green, the Golden State Warriors wrote a check they couldn't cash on Monday. The receipt came back and read insufficient funds.

Golden State tried to check LeBron James with subtle jabs, questioning his sensitivity and labeling him a whiner on social media, but their checks bounced when it was time to produce on the court. Green, who served his one-game suspension, could only watch from an Oakland Coliseum suite next door as his team fell 112-97 in Game 5 of the NBA Finals. The Warriors head to Cleveland with a 3-2 series lead.

Advantage Cleveland I'd say!
66  Economy / Services / Re: ► LOGO CONTEST ◄► coinmillions.com logo design ◄► 0.1 BTC prize ◄ on: June 14, 2016, 04:52:57 PM
All the entries by newbie accounts ? Not looking good to me at all.OP you do know right those are just shill accounts with one personality behind all of them? I suggest to allow only people above Member status if you're expecting more "qualified " entries.It just turns off all the senior designers to post stuff in a contest filled with newbie accounts.


Your argument is seriously flawed, being member or of  higher rank is not a guarantee of good quality work. In fact some of the better people I've met on this forum are newbies/junior members. Not everyone is inclined to post regularly. Some just post for posting sake,others to increase post count/rank or for signature campaigns.

Yes a few members will abuse this contest by creating several accounts, to enable them send in multiple  entries, and also increase their chances of winning. But what this also means is that the Op gets more entries to choose from, which can only be a good thing.

If you are intimidated by the amount of entries, then it means you are not confident of your designs. And you are trying to get rid of competition. Send in your entry, If your work is good, and the OP likes it, you win
67  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: June 14, 2016, 01:54:09 PM
Yes and No.... I hoard some as an investment for the future, but the rest I spend when need be. My preferred payment method for gambling is bitcoins.  Reason being I get to keep my winnings in btc, I don't lose much, and I don't win much either. So it makes no big difference to my balance. And for now ( the past one year), most of my savings are in bitcoins. I bought @ $200/250. So you can imagine my excitement with the current price rise. If I decide to sell now, I won't have done badly, but Il hold for now. There is not much to spend btc on for now anyways,  but this could change soon.
68  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: newbie question about sig. camp. on: June 14, 2016, 11:48:10 AM
Why would you want to post on another signature campaign thread when your involved in another one? It may be construed as spam by some campaign managers. But I don't think there is a general rule that says it is. Unless you have a genuine reason to post there, I would advice you desist from doing so. If you must, make sure you are not spamming the thread. Some campaign managers frown on it. It's up to you to find out if you are allowed to or not. In most cases, where you are not allowed to, it is stated clearly.
69  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 14, 2016, 10:46:20 AM
directbet thank you very much for your reply and your painstaking effort at educating the community. Personally I never knew these clauses existed @ these books. And I've gambled on a few of them. Maybe some good could come out of this after all.The public needs to know about these clauses, then it would be their choice to bet or not if they don't agree with them. But a bettor must know that once they bet, they are bound by these T&C's even if they consider them unfair.

Could another member start a thread about these clauses in the gambling section? I might take it upon myself to in the future if no one does.

@ hungerstyle, the ball is in your court now. DirectBet has stated clearly that they are willing to refund you. This is their own way of reaching a compromise, and I urge you to meet them halfway.

Yes it is uncomfortable sending in pics and ID'S, and under normal circumstances I wouldn't advice anyone to send in their dox. But these are not normal circumstances. Obviously directbet cannot prove conclusively that it was a double spend attempt. But you also can't prove that it wasn't. Their terms clearly states that all they need to confisticate your btc is to "believe" there was an attempt to defraud them. And this could be the case here. When you bet with them you were bound by their T&C's.

So please go ahead and complete their KYC (know your customer) procedure and put an end to this, to get your refund.

I am not sure what it entails, but my guess is that you need to send them a government issued ID, verify your address and maybe a phone number. After you've completed it, directbet will send you an agreement to sign.Then issue you a refund. If there is anything you don't understand,  pls ask here. I am sure someone would be kind enough to help.

@ directbet, for the sake of transparency,  kindly list what info's and details hungerstyle should send you as kyc, and where he should send them to. Thank you.


70  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 14, 2016, 08:11:20 AM
DirectBet - What is the gist of the agreement you want signed?

We said from the very beginning that we have no interest in keeping the coins. We are willing to return the coins, but at the same time we need to protect our business and prevent them from attempting to defraud us again.

At this point we want to discuss with the person who sent out this bet transfer and who owns the payout address, but hungerstyle keeps saying that "he is not available".

directbet you are saying one thing but acting in a different manner. Op says you are not replying to his emails. Well not since the the 30th of may anyway. You have every right to protect your business, but the best way forward would be to fix the flaw on your platform that makes it possible to double spend. Otherwise this could happen again. I don't see how signing an agreement with the Op and obtaining his dox would stop this from occurring again.

However, Op says you are yet to send him an agreement to sign. Did you or not? Are you still refunding him? You have stated clearly here and privately to the Op that you will refund him, if he meets your terms.

Could you please outline clearly here on this thread  what these conditions are? If you require an ID, what type etc. Then the ball would firmly be in the Op's court. And if he fails to comply, it would be his loss. But asking for a third party exchange to get involved before proceeding is unrealistic, especially since you've indicated you don't believe they exist. Nip this in the bud. All the best.


71  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 12, 2016, 11:34:26 PM
False. You just fail to see to keep coin why everyone agree to avoid directbet.

When will you make send btc back?

I don't think Directbet needs to send you any btc as you have not answered the previous questions about why you have deleted a few screen shots/emails.Using a third party service as an excuse just work both ways,if you're sure they have attempted an double spend,why don't you try asking them your refunds ? In that case,directbet doesn't even know who you're since they aren't really dealing with you but the exchange.I have never heard before an exchange "double spending" unless they're attempting to be goxxed.Very shady you bought this story in the later part of the argument.

@DirectBet: I have been betting here for a year or more and I honestly think you guys are the best SportsBook around and it has already been proven by the bitcointalk community itself.You shouldn't be wasting anymore time on this accusation as it will clearly make sense to anyone with brains that double spend was attempted.Your reputation won't be tarnished, either way not many show interest in the thread.


You are wrong.The coins  should be refunded. It is unethical and the bookie already made clear his desire to return the money. All the accusations and counter - accusations is helping nobody.

@ Op Id suggest you co - operate with directbet to retrieve your wager. Sign whatever document and get it over with. It may be uncomfortable,  but try.

@ directbet, you might have a case, but there is no smoking gun. I hope your offer to refund the Op is genuine, and you are not giving him the runaround.  It's beginning to look that way. I'll delete the negative trust I left you, trusting you to do the right thing.

Unfortunately for you, until you fix this loophole,  unscrupulous players will take shots at you. Especially now that they know how. Find a solution.

72  Economy / Services / Re: Paying $.5 in btc for short post/review on: June 08, 2016, 06:29:08 AM
Thank you all, I have to lock this for now.I received enough pms. If selected you will be pm'ed.  Il re - open if I still need this in the future.
73  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 07, 2016, 01:59:31 PM
In case any of you missed the DirectBet official response that we posted, which includes evidence of the fraudulent activity, we now also updated post # 7 with the official response so that it will be more visible.


Hi, I am a frequent user of your website. I've played there more than few times, despite the fact that your vig is too high. But the overall experience is not bad. I just want to say to you that you are wrong. You already have the OP's winnings, he is not disputing that with you. But keeping his wager is bad. It's just not done, and it is the hallmark of a scam-book. Okay maybe he did try to free-roll you, but your evidence is weak. I dont think $20k+ is enough to drag your good name through the mud. I doubt you think so too. IL be keeping an eye on this thread, and until you resolve this, I will only use your book for micro bets.  
74  Economy / Services / Paying $.5 in btc for short post/review on: June 07, 2016, 12:41:40 PM
Hello Community,

I need 5 people to help me review a product. I'll pay $.5 in btc for ever quality posts. Post should be 50/60 words. If interested please pm me for more details. Il choose the 5 ppl I feel are most qualified.

75  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 07, 2016, 12:23:49 PM
@QS, You might know this already, but it's not just the profit from the winning bet we're talking about.  They seized the initial wager as well.

hungerstyle was risking ~36BTC to win ~11BTC, so he stood to either lose 36BTC or be paid ~47BTC (he thought)

Personally I don't think DirectBet has justified not paying out the entire 47BTC, although I think both sides of that argument have valid points.

The fact that he has not returned the initial 36BTC, however, is absurd.  I understand they believed they were justified in their actions, and he seems intelligent and reasonable in general, but now that all of the points have been made, I can only assume they have realized they made a mistake and just don't want to admit they were wrong after investing so much effort into the whole thing.

Not really that relevant, but worth pointing out the price in USD:

When bet was made:
Bet $16,500 to win $21,150
Now:
$21,150 to win $27,550






Just reading through the email evidence the Op uploaded. It is obvious that he never admitted to double spending. He actually seemed puzzled by the accusation, but shrugs it off to retrieve his bitcoins. I mean If I were him I would do the same. At that point the sport-book held and still holds all the cards. Why the book twisted his words into an admission of guilt is very suspicious. It is possible the Op tried to free-roll them, but the same can be said for the bookie. It is their responsibility to prove beyond all doubt that he tried to free roll them, which they have failed to do so far .Their evidence only shows a probable double spend.

In my honest opinion, the book should not only pay back the wager, they are also liable for the winnings.
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77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: March 20, 2016, 05:11:23 PM
Phew!..... not a one man team afterall? Could they win this world cup?

Gayle is a good weapon to have for this short format cricket.
78  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: March 20, 2016, 04:25:15 PM
sri lanka defending well despite the low total Cheesy Charles was a crucial wicket and without gayle WI will have trouble lol Cheesy


samuels out, sqweaky bum time.....criminal by samuels
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: March 20, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
sri lanka picking up the pieces slowly but surely now Cheesy all they have to do in bowling terms is get gayle and samuels and its a easy win Cheesy hopefully its possible Cheesy

Dilshan was really unlucky to be given LBW which was clearly missing the leg stump by a big margin, he was in good touch and that wicket changed the fate of SL, struggling to get runs on the board. 122 for 9 in 20 overs. hope SL could bowl and trouble the WI.  Wink a couple of wickets in the power play makes things interesting


oh dear!  Grin ....ifs and buts
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: March 20, 2016, 02:43:56 PM
Any Afghanistan backers here? good batting so far...will they maintain it? SA not bowling great as usual in this worldcup


Get on Afghanistan...small 0.1btc  @ odds 8. would be great if they can....

WOW thats a prediction. you thought AFG can win against SA bowling nd that too a very high score Huh

Afghanistan require another 54 runs with 4 wickets and 18 balls remaining


They said the same thing about leiceter winning the premier league...nothing is given in betting, otherwise there will be bo bookies....hope you put your hse on  a SA win?   Wink

South Africa won  as expected, but it was a sterling performance with Afghanistan.
That given, I would have thought the odds on Afghanistan would have been 20:1 or higher.
8:1 seems to be giving too much respect to Afghanistan.


The odds dropped to 8 or thereabouts in-play, after the 1st few overs by Afghanistan,a small .1btc loss.

Hopefully West Indies would win as seems the case to recorver.
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