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Where did these pictures of their ASICs come from?
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"Hmmmm... what's the least efficient way we can stack our Mini-Rig cases..." there is a lot of beautiful boxes...  Nailed It |
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BTCFPGA also claims to have a functioning chip at this time and Avalon must either have them or be very close if they expect to meet their countdown date.
I have a chip also. Called a gpu. Custom designed by my company. U might have heard of them. Ati. Yeaaa bitches and it is mining right now. Sounds like a gpu to me, not an ASIC. It is an ASIC, disassemble the ATOM Bios of AMD cards and the initialization function is ASIC_Init. Some people seem retarded, GPU if an ASIC but not specific for mining bitcoin and this forum section called Custom hardware. Custom hardware that mines at the moment are gpu,s Custom hardware called ASIC doesn,t even excists .. I wonder who the retard is.. No, gpu's are COTS products that are running mining software that is built around the devices. And your broken english really does not help you here. |
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BTCFPGA also claims to have a functioning chip at this time and Avalon must either have them or be very close if they expect to meet their countdown date.
I have a chip also. Called a gpu. Custom designed by my company. U might have heard of them. Ati. Yeaaa bitches and it is mining right now. Sounds like a gpu to me, not an ASIC. It's an ASIC for Graphics Processing. One might argue that it's being used for a purpose outside of its Specified Application. A processor of any type (CPU/GPU) is hardly an application specific chip. Processors are meant to handle data of different types and manipulate it in a multitude of ways. I suppose you can make that argument though, because there really is no hard limit to what ICs are "Application Specific." |
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BTCFPGA also claims to have a functioning chip at this time and Avalon must either have them or be very close if they expect to meet their countdown date.
I have a chip also. Called a gpu. Custom designed by my company. U might have heard of them. Ati. Yeaaa bitches and it is mining right now. Sounds like a gpu to me, not an ASIC. |
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Cool can you consolidate the orders of each individual? I wanna see who the big spenders are ! I have a hunch that the biggest spenders won't be listed at all... |
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Which begs the question why you're using valuable resources to maintain a capable team to run machinery that's not needed?
It was my understanding that after they get a first "batch" (number of units shipped) they will bring this assembly process into their new facility. The first units were supposed to be about haste, so they chose to outsource the pcb builds, which would then be converted to in-house built-on-demand products. |
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The who is info Domain name: cpcelectronics.co.uk Registrant: CPC Electronics Registrant type: UK Sole Trader Registrant's address: CPC Electronics 3 Piccadilly Place Manchester LAN M1 3BN United Kingdom Registrar: 1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND] URL: http://www.1and1.co.uk or http://registrar.1und1.info Relevant dates: Registered on: 13-Dec-2012 Expiry date: 13-Dec-2014 Last updated: 13-Dec-2012 Registration status: Registered until expiry date. Name servers: ns67.1and1.co.uk 217.160.80.173 2001:08d8:00fe:0053:0000:d9a0:50ad:0100 ns68.1and1.co.uk 217.160.81.173 2001:08d8:00fe:0053:0000:d9a0:51ad:0100 WHOIS lookup made at 23:58:51 19-Dec-2012 Registered a couple days ago... and they already "a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals". Impressive  #scam |
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@mem, you really need to find something better to do with your time. I won't bother quoting your attacks because I don't really think there is anything substantive there to quote. Coloring my text red does not add some polarizing quality to make phrases contradict, much less does the content itself contradict. I'm unsure of which "issue" I have sidestepped. I have stated plainly that I am not a "shill" as you call it, and I will expound by telling you that I am in no way a representative or someone who has received compensation from BFL and I will remain an impartial member much more interested in the technology than all of this meaningless drama.
I realize you do not like Butterfly Labs, and I do suspect that one day you will get over that. Whether it simply be lapse of time or by way of you screaming from the mountain "I was right, Butterfly Labs was a scam and will never deliver."
At that note, can we please give Avalon back their thread.
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On second thought, don't talk to me Inaba.
Talk to me when you actually have delivered 100 [ASIC] units of a product your company sells. Until that time shooo....I disown you as a legitimate vendor. Begone from my sight!
Edit: and uh, best of luck.
Wonderful PuertoLibre, does this mean you will leave this BFL thread and go to the actual ASIC vendor's thread? We will be deeply saddened by this loss. abeaulieu is a hypocrite that knows exactly what he is doing and only does an average job of trying to hide it. Your goal spread FUD against avalon while propping up the polished turd BFL. Shill is a Shill is a Shill. I'm actually quite impartial, and most certainly not being paid by BFL. You're just an idiot, mem, and there's no cure for that. |
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It's not unlikely at all... depending on power factors, we estimate between 64 and 128 chips per device. 88 is an odd number (not impossible of course), but given the propensity for the Avalon team to like nice round figures, I suspect a multiple of 8. My thoughts are they are going to have to go with more than 64 chips to overcome the particular issues they haven't run into quite yet.
Why dont you spend less time "guessing" what your competition is doing, what stages they are at and how further behind than you they are and spend more time answering the multitude of questions people have surrounding your shitty company ? This thread is about Avalon ASIC Development Status, and Inaba is staying on topic. Inaba has no idea whatsoever how Avalon is doing things, so he has no useful info to add to the thread, therefore he's just trolling as usual. Just as much useful information as you or I may have... |
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Maybe you should restart your browser.  I don't see this either. You test in firefox? Edit: I saw it after logging into BFL forums. Not sure what that means... |
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I thought that Bitcoin payments for BFL products went through Bit-Pay and that BFL received the payments in USD - which would mean they couldn't refund "your" Bitcoins because they never received your payment in BTC in the first place.
This, it was tied to the US dollar. So how many BTC did you lose? Oh god, here we go again on the subject of "how much is lost by spending a certain number of bitcoins." Which is a completely moot question. |
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BFL says someone else will have delays? Seems spurious...
Well Avalon just announced a "potential" delay. Doesn't seem like BFL was too far off. |
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The discussion was about where the term tape-out came from, it has nothing to do with autorouters.
We weren't discussing tape-out... Would some one like to enlighten me to what they mean by the design was hand drawn? Is that even possible now days?
BFL mentioned that a lot of their stuff had to be hand-routed because it was very dense, so we were discussing what that actually meant. When pressed for a reason why, I have been told that because this is a very dense, hand routed design they are afraid of making a mistake and have required extra checking and sign offs which has slowed down the whole process considerably. They don't want to be on the hook financially for having to redo the whole order. Am I misreading this, or does this sound like they won't be at tape-out until 30 days from now? (What careful checking of hand routed design will you be doing once the masks are being printed?). |
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They're not using an autorouting tool to route the signal paths. In terms of PCB design, this is how things are done normally because even modern autorouters are simply not good enough at knowing about signal paths, power usage, parasitic capacitance, etc. The process of doing this in an ASIC should be quite similar, just on a smaller level and more complex. No, back in the day you would see PCBs were actually hand drawn. I understand that, but that's not what they're talking about. (Even intel did the hand-drawing of their processors on giant blown up transparent film top seperate layers in the early days.) |
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On second thought, don't talk to me Inaba.
Talk to me when you actually have delivered 100 [ASIC] units of a product your company sells. Until that time shooo....I disown you as a legitimate vendor. Begone from my sight!
Edit: and uh, best of luck.
Wonderful PuertoLibre, does this mean you will leave this BFL thread and go to the actual ASIC vendor's thread? We will be deeply saddened by this loss. |
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They're not using an autorouting tool to route the signal paths. In terms of PCB design, this is how things are done normally because even modern autorouters are simply not good enough at knowing about signal paths, power usage, parasitic capacitance, etc. The process of doing this in an ASIC should be quite similar, just on a smaller level and more complex. |
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Are the colored things at the bottom seriously LEDs? 64 of them? I might not need a Christmas tree if I can get one of these by the 25th  |
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Hurray for Solidworks mechanical renderings of an electrical system.... where are the electrical pcb renderings?...
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