Crazydane,

I am going out on a limb and would say if you reversed the direction of that fan inside that enclosed area, you would have much better results with your rigs cooling... BlockOperations had a similar situation like yours in his early days of mining and when he moved into the 2nd warehouse, he changed the direction forcing the direct hot air out the buidling from a hot zone resulted in better stable temps during the hotter months of the year, the key he found was making sure the hot zone is air tight, you want all the vacuum of air coming through your gear and not pulling from leaks inside the room, so he sealed everything around his gear and even built plywood enclosures around his asics to force the air through them and not around the equipment.

Im not sure how it is up there, but down here they will credit me for 12 months only, meaning what extra i would produce with solar today would go to 0 value 12 months from now as credits, but if i signed up on the agreement to sell solar to them as a solar business, that brought up a ton of BS i was just not interested in dealing with...

Firstly, the rate here is 1.5cents/kw selling commercially, which royally blows balls

Secondly, they want to reduce "dirty power", so you can only use approved list of inverters and solar panels to be used in a commercial farming arrangement, basically everything on that list was stupid high prices, top of the line brands basically...

Thirdly, they informed me to sell solar as a farm, the install of the equipment has to be installed by a state approved solar contractor only....

there was a few other things they started listing off and by the 3rd one i just said forget about it.. ill just deal with the credit system.

For the solar, i am not looking to install it ontop of a house or anything, i am looking to install them in a cleared field opening.

Right now im trying to get some info on the permits and such i would need to follow, the confused part seems to be that my mining setup uses 2 x mobile home pads, which had seperate power boxes for each pad on the property. I currently have both power connections running to the mining hardware to be used. They are trying to tell me i would only be able to use 1 to hook it all up on and i would have to pay to have it upgraded to support the 50k system since it was a grid-tied setup. If i can get around the politics, then this is the route i plan on taking.

In regards to the warranty, the company told me the warranty would be still be valid as long as i have an electrician sign off on the wiring that its up to code.

Honestly if i had 40k to spend on expanding mining and you had the room, i would instead spend it on solar power... I have been shopping around local here to build a small solar farm on my property that i have all my rigs currently. Here in Florida you cant get a credit on solar unless you produce over a certain xxxx amount. So i have been shopping around and there is a solar panel manufacture called Sonali Solar in Miami, FL that quoted me some pretty amazing prices...

Pallet: 25 panels
305watt panels
$0.46/watt pricing

Small Container: 250 panels
305watt panels
$0.31/watt pricing

Or

A 50,400 watt complete system package

180 x panels
6 x 10.1KW 240vac inverters
Unirac 180 panel kit
cabling for kit setup

They priced me $33,675.40 shipped to my door, which comes out to $0.67 per watt if i do the install myself.


Right now im just trying to find out what permits and coding i would need to meet to install such a system, because if i could cut my $1500/month electric bill down to near $0 mining with the gear i already have, then that is a huge step in the right direction in the future of mining. Right now profits are a bit on the low side, so saving on electric seems more important in my book.... I could ROI on the solar in no time, since i would have to expand to use up the full 50kw in solar.

Honestly i wouldnt try a bot out unless you understand the charting and strategies that it uses to the fullest. Bots are great tools to help scalp a little here and little there, but they can take it just as fast from you. I have been playing with trading bots all the way back to my Forex days, but crypto is just so volatile right now with BTC in a emotional state. Ive earned more with my bots in the last 3 months than i have in 15 months of using bots on crypto... months back when btc was on the rise, the bots were struggling to make any positions due to lack of trading and everyone selling to put money into btc, now that btc has tanked and is recovering with some huge whales causing ripples in the market, the bot has been extremely active.

Example:
2017 i used gunbot and 2 other bots and only had 917 trades for the entire year only...
2018 i have had over 3000+ trades just in the short 4 months of trading it this year.

Man citronick,  you passed some of that luck my way apparently, had a smashing day... send more of that luck my way buddy... ill take these types of days everyday!!!

Most of my rigs use servers for the main computing unit with risers plugged into them, the Xeon's seem to be the same load with 1 miner going vs 6 miners going. I did have a lot of issues with the one mining rig i still had on an Onda board, but ive since moved it over to a spare server i had as a backup for server failures...

I open them up and remove the 18650 cells, then i test them in clusters to find out the cells health and capacity with a bulk tester.

I have used them for numerous projects, i built 2 batteries for my electric assist catrike bicycle i ride weekly around town, i built 5 powerwalls so far that are all linked together, and i replaced the batteries in my RV with these so when i travel i have far superior capacity compared to the old 4 lead acid batteries it had previously.

In regards to flammable, they are very stable cells if you use safety precautions... i put a glob of hot glue on the positive end when i finish testing them and sort them by capacity, just so there is far less chance of a short happening in the sorting containers...

My current reason for collection more is im currently building a 3 wheel motorcycle that i plan to power via electric motor.

 

Thats awesome, looks like your getting it, i just started switching over to the new PT2 version from 1.x, i hung out on the discord a while back, but i found many of the people on there just want to lead you down a bad road or try to give you enough info to lure you into buying something, so i stopped hanging out on that channel.

Ill have to look into using RSI in my pairs, currently i have them all tuned on EMAGAIN only, its been working well with me, when i first started i tried different things like lowbb, but i kept getting caught by the pump and dumps, so i switched to emagain and a period length that cut out all the pump and dumps on charts...  You have been doing better than me the last 5 days it seems, so keep it up, but your trading a lot higher trade amounts over me, im currently only trading $150 per trade, i seem to be averaging around 1% a day when you average it out over my high days and low days. I had a killer day last Thursday, 7.1% day, 103 trades in a single day.

Hey all,

Hope profits were in your favor lately, ive been out of the loop on mining, ive kinda fallen into a back burner farmer and have spent more time in my real estate business ive been slowly building up as i obtain rental properties. The mining and bots have been a nice and steady income for me to fall back on during the slower months when very little houses are available on the wholesale market to purchase.

Updates on the farm, up till this weekend the water loop peaked 60c on a 94F day here in Florida, so i spent the weekend extending my loop another 1000ft with more pex tube, ive decided im not ready to add radiators and fans into the farm again, im seeing how far i can run this off geothermal alone on the cooling, the addon 1000ft i buried it about twice the depth compared to the first loop i installed on the system and connected it all up and got it running Sunday about mid-day. The temp outside was 91F and the loop was only peaking 46c with the reconnect, but the system only saw the 91F for a few hours at most with the addon. I am trying to get ready for the upcoming approaching summer temps....

The mining hardware has been rock stable, i made a huge adjustment in the way the mining is implemented on my rigs, previously i had all the rigs setup farming as group of cards and after talking with someone who is a much larger farmer than im currently at, he experimented with solo-card farming and found it made his rigs more stable and made troubling cards stick out far easier, allowing for diagnosing to be easier. I ungrouped all my rigs and now have the GPU's mining solo, with their own specific benchmark settings to determine which algo is best for it to switch to. So a 6 card rig has 6 individual miners doing their own thing, mining their own algo's based on individual benchmark settings. Some huge takeaways from this, is that the rigs that i was having random lockups/hiccups on, the rig itself no longer goes down as a whole with miners not loading due to cards greyed out or frozen, now only the GPU on those rigs that is causing the headaches is locking up and the rest is just happily farming away. I also installed a TV in my office that runs off an amazon firestick, which is web browsed to my awesome miner display via the local host, i have it setup on the simple dashboard that only shows the amount of GPU's mining and estimation of profits, so if i look up at that screen i can quickly see if a GPU is down from the number changing... then i look into which GPU it is and proceed from there... 

In regards to the bots, boy they have been killing it, this month has been a huge month for me and i think it boils down to all the time ive spent adjusting the settings for every pair i trade, im currently up to 110 pairs charted out and settings inputted for trading...
Example: Just since midnight and its coming up on 6am, im already up like 1.7% with the one bot in profit for the day.

Try to source them refurbished or on ebay with bad batteries. I bought 3 from ebay that were server based UPS that just needed new batteries and i picked them up off amazon for a few dollars each, i even went to my local thrift stores and picked up a handful of them for a few dollars and half of them even worked, just needed fresh batteries. The ones i got from local thrift stores i built custom lithium batteries from 18650 cells, i have been collecting thousands of them over time because i was planning to build a DIY tesla powerwall with them along with build battery packs for my Catrike bicycle that i converted to electric assist, i get them free from thrift stores, hardware stores from the recycle bin just ask the store managers, and colleges. The most i got from thrift stores because when someone donates a laptio they cant resell it, so it gets scrapped and disassembled and they pay for someone to take the batteries away.

This is some of the batteries i got last month from going around and asking politely from many locations and picking up some from locations that told me they would place them to the side for me...


Here are some cells im still slowly testing out, i bought 4 tester/chargers units a while back that allows me to test 16 cells at a time, so its only time to test them, i put them on the test and forget about them really and come back when i remember about them, write the capacity on the side of the cell and move on, i store them in bins based on the capacity so my wall cells i assemble have the highest capacity cells. I have probably close to 40,000 cells assembled in my diy powerwall to date that ive never purchased...

Have you ever thought about doing a water air filter? someone mentioned to me previously that larger data centers in dusty areas like in deserts use them to filter the air coming in, basically you use a chambered box so the air routes under a surface and you have basically irrigation misters spraying water across the entire opening and running back down into a water reserve. The misting water catches the dirt particles and keeps the air coming in pretty much as clean as the best air filter wihtout the restriction of a media for the air to cross through..

I no longer need this type of filtering idea, because i decided to go watercooled and moved the majority operation of heat outside the building my gear is housed inside of.

Im really shocked you have not invested in UPS for your systems man.. i ordered 25 x of the CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD, i got them refurbished off ebay, the guy only had 25 left, so i contacted him to ask if i could buy all 25 at a better rate and he sold them to me for $88 each, but at that time was spring time sales, so i was able to get 20% using the emailed spring code i had sitting in reserves. I have one of these 1500 units on every 6 and less GPU rig i have running right now...

I was going to use automotive radiator also, but you cant mix dissimilar metals, copper and aluminum dont work well and you would have major issues down the line if you tried, thus why i had to source an all copper radiator. i managed to find one on ebay after some careful searching, but my plan B is to add more length to the loop, i have plenty of property still and may even try running some of it down into the earth vertically, someone posted over on another forum that i can purchase some pvc pipe large enough to allow the pipe to run down vertically and use water to frack the sand out by running the water hose down the middle as i disturb the soil with the pvc pipe, then afterwards run the cable down the middle, but im worried it would kink or whatnot. Another way someone mentioned was i could purchase a/c copper line and build a diy radiator without the fins.. idk i just hope the temps stay managable for me, since i spent a few k redoing this system multiple times, mostly on pumps failing (sigh)... my current pump that has lasted the longest is a simple submerged utility pump rated for 100% duty cycle at 80% load i picked up off local hardware store...

In regards to the code let me see if i can find it, what the script was just a simple nvidiainscector batch file to change GPU settings, but i added the lines to run it continuous with a pause for 720 minutes, then after the 720 minutes it would run the next line of code and pause for 720 minutes to run the next lines of code. basically i started the batch on the rigs at a set time of the day manually to keep it stupid, the pauses were 12hrs, so 12hrs during the middle of the day it would run one set of overclock settings, then after the pause would finish it would run the next set and it just looped back and forth over and over 24/7

I need to do some research on these servers that all of yall are running to see if they are still profitable to buy... GPU prices have dropped drastically, but profits have been marginal at best..

Ya i tried to use forced air at first, but the heat here in the summer just made it to impossible to maintain temps on the gear, so i had to build a script that would underclock the gear to 50%tdp during the hottest part of the days and back up to 65% during the night hours, so i searched into better means of cooling and invested in a large single waterloop that i run my entire farm off of now. I rented a ditch witch and dug a series of 2ft deep trenches on the property and i ground buried a few hundred feet of pex tube in the ground as my source of radiation of heat. My first attempt at running a test rig off the setup showed that running a typical watercooled pc pump was out of the picture, because the head pressure was to large on pushing fluid through 6GPU's on the first test rig. Then i moved to commercial inline pumps and over time they kept dieing on me also.. the head pressure combined with the heat just destroyed a commercial pump in a matter of a month and would start leaking from everywhere.. so i moved on to a spa/jacuzzi style pump thinking it was heat doing the issue and it turned out the heat was the issue all along killing the pumps, because it lastest the longest, so i started scaling up adding rigs to the waterloop and quickly i found myself pumpless again as the headpressure just was to much for the rigs. So a forum member mentioned an idea and its been rock stable for 6+ months now... I currently use a double pump system, but 1 is only running at a time, other is on pressure switch just as an emergency, but now i use a gravity fed system to cool all the gear. I have large 4inch pipes running across the top of the container wall that is pumped with water from the pump and on the end of the pipe about at the 90% level of the pipe, i have a large pipe dumping runoff back into the pump tank. Basically im using gravity to flow the water from the large 4inch pipe, into a diy manifold spreading the water to all 6 cards and flowing back out to the ground loop via a pipe at a level above the level of the pump tank. This has reduced the watts the pump runs at greatly and allowed it to stay cooled and reliable so far.. im letting gravity do all the work for me now... granted i went from a 40c loop to now a loop in the 50's, but it is the best way to go about it for me. I run universal copper CPU coolers i bought from alibaba in bulk, so my cost on them in bulk was around $8 each. after converting the system over to water, i dropped about 1500watts from the farm from removing all the GPU fans and just running a water pump and using mother earth to remove the heat. Now my entire farm runs at currently 58c max so far on the 90f+ days.. not sure yet what 100+ days will bring me yet, but if i have to im prepared to add additional cooling via a large radiator i purchased meant for industrial a/c system, but so far its been super nice running it this simple.

Hows the servers working for yall?

Just realized your a fellow container farmer like myself, but i have mine setup on an all watercooled setup to control temps... how have you managed to control temps in yours?

mine is located in Florida, i bought some property that had 2 old mobile home pads with separate power panels that old abandoned burned down mobile homes lived once a long time ago...... Picked up the property for little to nothing and settled with the county to offset all the fees tacked on the property from all the junk and 2 abandoned mobiles if i cleaned it all up and got rid of the junk... so i spent a few months burning junk from the 80's lol....

Ya to most people, they think credit cards are bad and they use them in the wrong way, the purchase stuff on them that they dont currently have the money to payoff within a month, so it sits there and collects interest every month.

Me personally i live my life thinking, if im doing something and i cant already use a credit card to reduce the cost of it, then i need to find one and add it to my arsenal.

I would say using credit cards smartly reduces my overall expenses by 28-30% every year in most cases. lately with all the large expenses, ive been declined from signing up for multiple high rewards cards in a single year, but usually when i cancel them a month or 2 later they are welcome to offer me the same deal back or possibly a better one. Because i use so many credit cards, i get like 200 letters a month in my mailbox trying to talk me into signing up for such and such credit card, its gotten a little out of hand really on the amount of credit card offers i get these days...its almost as if these companies are begging me to take their money from them lol....

Lets just do the math, based off the latest statistics from the government, in 2017, the average family in USA spent $63,784 on bills for the year...

If they were smart enough to use credit cards wisely, they could have reduced that by 20-30% from rewards and credits....

20% thats $12,756.80
or
30% thats $19,135.20

Just using credit cards wisely, thats like getting a promotion for an extra $19,000+ a year... instead they just throw it away and overwhelm themselves with stuff they purchased for nearly full price.

I do have to admit, i miss the days of using ebay bucks, it seems they kinda gone to the wayside with mining popularity...

Coupons, i rarely use them anymore, i just find them to time consuming to deal with these days and just deal with the cash back on my credit card. I have a pretty set life on things i eat, so if i so happen to see one for something i regularly eat i use it, but i stopped doing extreme couponing, because i found myself spending more in the long run on a bunch of stuff i would possibly never use that just sits on a shelf in my house and collects dust.

A while back i made the point of over a few months i made meals with everything i had saved up in my cabinets and pantry i bought from my days of extreme coupon shopping, i was amazed i was able to eat from all these things i had sitting around for nearly 3 months before i finally ran out of food. Many of them i ended up throwing away because the best by dates were a few years old... just wasted money on food i thought i would eat and never did...

I forgot to reply to this,

If you plan on using the Gunbot, i highly recommend using the linux version of the latest build, The windows build was very unstable for me no matter which machine i ran it off of..

In regards to using Gunbot to trade, i only use it to trade 2 pairs... I found it very difficult to control when trying to trade a lot of pairs, due to how much of a delay the bot gets the more and more data it has to compute as you add additional pairs, i found 1-2 pairs resulted in the best results in the bot reacting quick enough to trading, otherwise you have to loosen the settings a lot for the delay in the bot to trade, which places you at a higher risk in loosing money...

I have it trading BTC/USD on GDAX as a beta tester currently for the upcoming release
I have it trading NEO/USDT on a 2nd Binance account, as i want to accumulate NEO, so i have it setup as NEO as the primary, so it holds NEO all the time and collects GAS still. It is setup to trade the dips in a very conservative manner, since NEO has very little volatility compared to other alt coins out there, so this setup only trades a handful of times a month, otherwise it sits watching the market for a position to trade collection GAS. I periodically check this account and remove profits to my Nano S wallet so its safe to store and collect GAS.

in regards to using it, i highly recommend you setup like 10+ levels of doubleup, the market has been sooooo volatile its not unheard of to see a 10% drop in a coin in a single day, even BTC moves this much currently... So me personally i have my setup to doubleup every 1% for both coins i use on this bot...

Example:
Starting Balance 2.05btc, i wouldnt trade with anything less than 2.05btc if your going with the 10 step doubleup method like me, because the min trade amount is 0.002, so if you buy into a position via gunbot and your settings possibly place you in a spot just before a big whale dumps a huge load of BTC, then your stuck holding your position for days to months tell BTC recovers to a level you can make a profit. I go by 1% personally on all my bots that use doubleup, because it gets into a position and out of a position very quickly, usually within a single day im in and out of the trade. I found trading lots of small positions added up over time to more than holding a large position and wishing for a day to come for a profit.

If you start with 2.05btc and use 10 levels of doubleup, that gives you a trade amount of 0.002002 on your initial purchase, taking you to 2.002btc when doubled up 10 times. I personally trade high profits on my BTCUSD pair and im still able to get out of trades within a day in most cases...

Example:
Bot buys in 0.002002btc worth

BTC drops 5%, so the bot doubled up 5 times putting you at 0.064063btc position,
lets say your profit margin target is 5%....
BTC raises back up 6% from the dip, your bot sells at 5%+trading fee
you end up walking away with 0.003203 in profit in a single trade


Example of a trade i had...

March 13th, bot purchased in a oversell position @9,000 price....within 24hrs the price dropped to $7450, a 17.3% drop in value.... My bot doubled up 10 times from the massive selloff, putting me at 4btc position, but March 19th it was able sell for 10% profit of 0.4btc...

Yes the bot makes hundreds of trades for 1-5 dollars profit only, but occasionally it catches one of these whale dumps and recovers and you make a nice penny back. I believe in bitcoin enough to wager that much money in a trade and if i would have never had 10 levels of doubleup, then i would have never been in that position to make 10% off of 4btc, as btc starts to recover and value of it starts climbing back up to 10k, personally i am going to add additional levels to my bot past 10, but its very difficult to do because it requires you to have more btc as it increases pretty quickly or you have to drop your initial trade position and still stay above the min trade limit.

SRR on windows i didnt know you could do that, ill have to look into it more.

I made huge efforts to reduce the weak points in my riserbased rigs and after making all these upgrades i have had very little issues with them compared to before.
1) i deleted all the connectors as much as possible, if it was capable for me to solder the connection, i did just that.. i cut all the connectors off and soldered them wire to wire and shrink wrapped them.
2) when i redid most of my rigs, i built clamping system out of wood that maintains a constant clamping pressure between the GPU and the Riser along with applied a liberal amount of hot glue on the PCIE connection to try and reduce loose issues from viberation and heat..
3) The constant temps from going watercooled has reduced my overclocking issues greatly, with all cards running the same temp, the constant changing of OC/MEM settings everytime it switches algo's has been rock stable, plus i gave up on trying to push cards to the last point, now if a card fails or locksup on a certain algo i back it off by 5 and run it and dont bother to try and squeeze more out of it...


In regards to the Credit Cards, ive have always viewed credit cards as a source of income for me, i abuse them greatly since i have an 848 credit rating due to how much i use credit cards and maintain a perfect payment history. I currently use a series of 27 credit cards right now, all loaded into Samsung Pay so i dont have to carry them all on me with them all labeled with what they are best used for and i track the ones that have annual payments on a google calendar and cancel them just before the annual renew date.

Example of some of the cards i use daily...
Chase Ink Business ATT: Cell Phone Insurance up to $650 for free if i pay cell phone service with card, plus i get 5% back on cell phone service charges, no longer have to pay insurance through ATT Cellular
Fannie Mae: 6% on groceries
Amazon Prime Platinum Business: 6% on Amazon Purchases
Citi Cash Double Rewards: 6% on Restaurants for 2 years
Chase Cash Custom Rewards: 6% on Electronics and 6% on Gas up to $2500/yr
Pilot Travel Platinum: 8% on gas/diesel up to 100 gallons each quarter @ pilot or flyingj, pilot gas station down the street from me near interstate...
Chase Ink Business Preferred: 5% on home improvement + 10% i get at store for being Military Veteran, so 15% off in total
Capital One Chevy Buy Power: 10% off chevy services and parts, 15% off tires, 20% off premium oil changes. I own a chevy cars, so you earn points towards purchase of new chevy cars, when i bought my last car i was able to take $3200 off based on money i spent on this card over a few years servicing my car at the dealership.
Fidelity: 3% on everything up to $2500/yr, receive pts to spend on investments
Verizon Business Preferred Card: 5% off Verizon purchases, Free Wifi Modem upgrade + free internet upgrade with $1,000 spent/yr. My Fios Internet+TV is over $100/month, so i was upgraded to 250download/upload this year for free.

Then i have a constant rotation of credit cards i signup for and cancel every year based on high cash back/rewards.
Example: last month i used Amex Gold w/ 100,000pts if purchased $4,000 over 3 months, so i used a service called Plastiq to pay my mortgage via the credit card for a 2.5% fee, but after charging $4,000 to my credit card i received 100,000pts, which i redeemed for $1,000 prepaid gift card. So i saved 22.5% off on my mortgage payment of $4,000, which in my eye is like paying myself $1,000 for already having to pay my mortgage...

I do the following above a few times a year as credit card companies allow me to on large purchases. I bought a large portion of my mining hardware this way using credit cards. I view it as a creative way to make money from money.

 

Ya i really like the SRR, but i dont use SMOS. I have all my rigs on profit switching 24/7 currently running on NemoMiner, but i am able to monitor all the rigs via AwesomeMiner. I only didnt see them being off because i basically turned off my cell phone for multiple days while i was visiting her and we went and traveled to a few places together.

It was a perfect vacation, because i recently made a huge purchase (2018 Zero SR) splitup among 4 credit cards that offered me huge points rewards deals. Basically if i would have applied all the points i gained to statement as cash off i would have only gotten 1cent per point totaling out to around $4600 worth of statement credit on my credit cards, but you can use the points on travel, hotels, and rentals @ 2.1cents per point. So i purchased my plane ticket to South Korea, payed for all my hotel stays with the points, and payed for my rental car while i was there... increasing the value of my points to $9600ish. Which i ended up spending all of it while on vacation splurging in luxury suites and a high-end Mercedes rental car.

Basically walked away from nearly a month long vacation for a few hundred dollars out of pocket.