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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitGame | Get Free .007mB on Provably Fair Games, Win Steam Games & Amazon Gifts on: January 15, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Nice site enjoy the loyalty program, most Bitcoin casinos do not have one.  Tongue
2  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: December 11, 2015, 09:25:26 PM
Dealer goes crazy when you get a blackjack...   Tongue

http://imgur.com/lx0mxMa

if I qualify for any bug bounty my username on the site is MAXWIN01  Cool

aha, nice find, it is not logical that the dealer got 2 more cards since you got BJ, dealer should stop at double ten right? I think u will get a bug bounty, nice catch and observation you have done.


dealer hits into 30...

http://i.imgur.com/GOIeEDC.png



3  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: December 11, 2015, 07:40:58 PM
Dealer goes crazy when you get a blackjack...   Tongue

http://imgur.com/lx0mxMa

if I qualify for any bug bounty my username on the site is MAXWIN01  Cool
4  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: OPEN ★ FRENCH ROULETTE ★ For 1 Roulette Player only ★ No Chance to lose Promo ★ on: December 06, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
thx for the promo, managed to gain a profit...no need to refund  Wink
5  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: OPEN ★ FRENCH ROULETTE ★ For 1 Roulette Player only ★ No Chance to lose Promo ★ on: December 06, 2015, 08:57:43 AM
We decided to open this generous Promo again and are looking for 1 user/player who wants to play at our Roulette table with no chance to lose Smiley

yes you cannot lose!!!

Hi,

I will take this promo if it is open again  Wink
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet Casino & Playing Wallet. 300% First Deposit Bonus up to 10 BTC ! on: December 02, 2015, 03:22:32 AM
Why no transaction ID's for withdraws? Everything else is good though.  Cool
7  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: FREE 0.035 BTC | No Deposit Required on: October 21, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
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Thxs  Tongue
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ The LuckyBit Derby ★ Provably Fair Win-Place Horse Racing! on: August 13, 2015, 05:13:42 AM
Fooled around with the game,  made a small profit.

It may just be my personal preference here but I didn't like the fact that you could tell the winner of the race at the start of it, the horses never deviated from their starting positions so there was no suspense, you could instantly tell if you won or lost...perhaps that could be changed somehow.  Tongue


Aside from that its a really neat game and I liked all the different betting options, about time MoneyPot apps were something besides dice and "plinko"

9  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coin178.com on: July 28, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
I don't know about this site, I tried it a few months ago, the live games are great and have low limits, however when I went to withdraw the funds nothing happened for several hours, then randomly the withdraw was cancelled with no email communication as to why.

Instead of fighting with the casino I just bet it all in one bet and lost  Roll Eyes


Hopefully they still pay withdraws correctly, their bitcoin wallet only seemed to have a few hundred $'s in it when I looked.


I didn't take bonus!
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♠ Bit777.com ♠ WE ACCEPT DOGE! Play with BTC/LTC/NMC/PPC/XPM/FTC/DRK/DOGE! on: July 26, 2015, 10:56:34 PM
It's great that you accept alt currency but your min and max bets are not adjusted correctly.

For example the max bet on your blackjack table for DOGE is 250...or ~$0.05.  Tongue

11  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling before provably fair. on: July 09, 2015, 08:53:18 PM
In addition, I'd love to see more sites follow sites like DirectBet or even Bustabit where the server seeding is done with an outside variable(such as transaction ID) that the site could not manipulate.  Tongue
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling before provably fair. on: July 09, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
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If you lose, wouldn't you like to know beyond a doubt that you fairly lost? Know if you were unlucky or fleeced. That's what provably fair allows you to do.




Provably fair does not necessarily mean provably fair.  Roll Eyes

When it comes to anonymous cyrpto currency in an unregulated gambling market, I'd expect numerous operators to pull every trick in the book to screw over people.


For example:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

If something isn't provably fair or if people do manage to figure out problems with the PVF system then once thats out, the site loses on a lot of players . People should always do their research before blindly trying out a new site. I doubt reputed site operators would pull any trick in the book just to cheat people , they would actually be losing a large chunk of their revenue by being fair.


"I doubt reputed site operators would pull any trick in the book to cheap people"

This statement has been proven UNTRUE time and time again over the past decade...from small time operators like BLR technologies to regulated UK gaming companies..."irreglarites" have been FOUND ALWAYS resulting in the house getting an advantage above average.


Do not believe that just because a site publishes a "provably fair" system then that is all there is to it, if they want to cheat they will cheat you. That reddit thread just details a FEW ways a provably fair system can give you VERIFIED fair results and still have cheated you, I'm sure they dozens of more ways.


Point being, I trust software such as Netent or Playtech(both of which are not provably fair) more then any bitcoin casino flashing a provably fair badge...

 Cool
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambling before provably fair. on: July 09, 2015, 08:35:25 PM
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If you lose, wouldn't you like to know beyond a doubt that you fairly lost? Know if you were unlucky or fleeced. That's what provably fair allows you to do.




Provably fair does not necessarily mean provably fair.  Roll Eyes

When it comes to anonymous cyrpto currency in an unregulated gambling market, I'd expect numerous operators to pull every trick in the book to screw over people.


For example:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino ★DICE★HORSE RACING★Introducing NEW Power PLINKO! on: June 28, 2015, 04:21:02 AM
Plinko is fun game, only thing I wish could be improved is the ability to have your settings saved from session to session, every time I close the browser and go back in the default configuration is loaded.  Tongue
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unfair Blackjack on: June 26, 2015, 07:37:13 PM
Please OP, are you being sarcastic with those 69 hands? or you wanted to refer it as sexual like BJ can appear to mean.
I've played so many hands like for days both on live dealing and software one, and I prefer the live dealing ofc but still, 69 hands is relatively extremely small to compare a % of busting or something.

I disagree, % to bust or % of dealer upcards are fixed percentages, when a game deviates from expectations to a significant extent it can signal that there is something WRONG and it can be proven in FAR fewer hands then would be believed.

For example: If I had a bag with 99 red marbles and 1 blue marble and drew the blue marble 20 times in a row you could prove something to be statstically wrong in that game in very few trials!

I may run some more tests this weekend, I don't expect much to come from it, there is no accountability in a "bitcoin" casino.

Even look at casinos such as 5Dimes(reputable casino) they ran rigged craps for 2 years before someone decided to test it.. Roll Eyes



Only takeaway from this thread is to stick to live or provably fair casinos and always change client seed  Wink
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unfair Blackjack on: June 26, 2015, 04:18:50 AM
Well if it isn't Provably Fair you should just out this casino's name?

like i said before, this sample size is useless, a sample size of under 100 hands is in no way determinant of fairness or unfairness. you would need at least 100k hands to have any meaningful data to analyze, and drawing a conclusion from this data would be inconclusive. no need to fire off an accusation without being 100% sure.


Maybe for Blackjack it would require a large number of hands but I'm not so sure.

I know you can run a Chi-Test on Craps and if it is blatant cheating you can notice within a few hundred rolls without a shadow of a doubt.  Roll Eyes you should see Michael Shackleford(Wizard of odds) and his test on BLR technologies craps...


I don't care to take this testing this much farther, I guess just stay on Provably fair casinos and always change client seed...all you can do  Roll Eyes
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unfair Blackjack on: June 26, 2015, 01:56:13 AM
There is a thing called variance, it might cause the outcomes you get be distant from  the mean.

Is the casino provably fair(you would never bet in non provably fair casinos with any significant amount of money), is it live?

yes of course there is variance, of course sample size is small, results mean little.

I had made 4 deposits to the casino in question and all had nearly identical results, I only decided to record on the 4th deposit since I was shocked at how blatent it was...I regret not recording all the hands over the 4 deposits.


As for the question of was this a "provabaly fair" casino - NO, tried something different...my bad I guess  Cool



Also curious and perhaps discussion for another topic is why all the provably FAIR blackjack casinos only allow single hand blackjack..besides softswiss(of which I've won alot on)  Roll Eyes
18  Economy / Gambling / Unfair Blackjack on: June 26, 2015, 01:06:23 AM
Won't out the casino since sample size is too small. Undecided

Spreadsheet of dealer hands





Takeaways:

69 hands
Dealer Busted 13 times - 18% of the time - expect ~28%
Dealer 21 - 8 times - 11% of the time
Dealer 20 - 7 times - 10.14% of the time
Total dealer 20 or 21: 15 times - 21.73%
Dealer showed 10 or A 42% of the time  Cool
Dealer Bust: 18% Dealer 20/21 - 21.73  Roll Eyes



Sample size small, pretty sure they are cheats, won't invest more money to do a real test....

Rigged software is out there...always be cautious.
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