This is interesting because the general ledger would need to be hidden? Would that not crash the system? As far as liquidity goes are you talking about a form of HFT?

It would be interesting to see if something like that could be created. Maybe for when people purchase large item contracts like a house without escrow insurance.

I was wondering if anyone knows of a StockExhange that focuses on BTC stock or bonds for companies.

All the exchanges I see are currency exchanges but not equity of bonds.

I am guessing if a company is raising capital using bond or stocks they have to go through a regulatory body even if it is all raised and paid for with BTC.

Hey,
sounds good to me.

I had to delete my old LinkedIn for compliance reasons(Fuckin FiNRA)

but I am with a new investment firm and they allow us to have LinkedIn, just didn't care enough to recreate it before.

I would not believe any bank cares so much about making any kind of coin on their own.

CryptoCurrancy if stabilized has a place in a clients investment portfolio. Using BTC to hedge against commodities or currency collapse via inflation is smart bet.

I would imagine the banks are more of R
&D phase to figure out the stability and functionality of BTC.

I would imagine a CryptoCurrancy index and fund coming out of these studies to try and capture the enthusiasm.

The news of overstock selling WS their bitcoin packages bonds is just another form of how banks can make some money off of this new technology without having to invent their own.

There is already a ETF out there, I however find it kind of pointless to be honest.

Once again, BTC is still very young and I can see the sharks biting on surfers out of curiousity.

Seen a few posts where people are claiming a guaranteed rate of around that figure.
From the posts it looks like a monthly calculation.

5 yr Fixed annuities have a guarantee rate but it's of around 2%.

7 year index's such as the momentum 5 have a 1.5% floor and a 5.5% cap.

I understand bitcoin is interely different and it's volitility would have me stay clear of anyone claiming high returns and even adding in guaranteed rates.

Now I have seen some companies are insurance backed but it covers insolvency and theft, not market volatility.

As far as time horizen goes, I do not find 5% unacceptable over a 12M spread, it's not even unacceptable in a day with the way BTC moves. Just the guartaneed word scares me.

Now I am new to the bitcoin world and I am not claiming to be an expert on anything and please do not take my advise, was just my thought of mind at the moment of posting the comment.

10-20% fee charged? Jesus!

Reminds me of Vincent's Picks from the video store on Seinfeld episode 1997 "The comeback".

I sent a memo out to my firm asking about bitcoin, most for brokers replayed back with "I dont know" or simple "Ponzy". The middle aged brokers seemed more acceptable to BTC and even had a bit of conversations about it.

That's a good sign to me. Most young brokers are idiots, and older brokers are jaded.

That's actually really smart, but would be hard to determine specially since people have multiple wallets.

Exchange volume is a nice way to look at it, but captures a certain demographic and leave another demographic that might not trade out. Would be easier if companies posted their earnings and sales number with AUM or Individual account holders. But thats a far step from happening.

I take the cocktail theory for the investment world. Trying to think of the same principles for BTC.

Theory guys like this; If I am at a cocktail party and people come up to me and ask what I do for a living, I reply "I'm in the investment and advisery field" if they look disgusted with me and walk away to go speak to a dentist I know the market is pretty stabilized.

Now Reverse it, if two random people come up to me at the cocktail party, ask the same question and I reply "I am in the investment and advisery field". If they then get excited and start giving me advise on what stocks to buy, and then the dentist comes over and gives me advise on what stocks to buy I know its a good time to start exiting the market because their is to much consumer confidence and froth.

Not really an accurate theory and I wouldn't recommend using this to place any of your trades or engage in the market. It's just one of many things I use to engage in qualified invester confidence.

Anything that has a guarantee rate of return above 5% I would be skeptical about.

I have honestly been looking for a BTC practice that has a firm lined up. A TPA, Custodian, Insurance backed, and monthly or weekly newsletter's on BTC speculation, estate plans, and tax implications.

Seems hard enought just to find a company with a dedicated phone line. But have to remind ourselves that this is still reletively young product.

There are some extremely smart people doing some fascinating things. Just have to dig through the dirt to find the planted seeds.

That's just it,

I've read several books on Bitcoin and one thing that keeps standing out is how the 1 or 2 person companies are dominating and end up collapsing or leaving clients money vonrable.

It reminds me of the early days of the NYSE.
There were so many scams that they had to force a regulatory entity.

Being very passionate at what I do, I find it extremely annoying to have FiNA breathing down my neck every time I go to write an email or if I wanted to start a blog about economics for investers.

However, some of the guys and gals that I have had the misfortune to work with over the years makes me extremelly happy to have a regulator that cares about suitability(however little that Is) or those same coAdvisers would just punish the poor investers with High commison products.

Once again, not saying this is a scam, I simply don't know you or your company, I guess Im just envyios and skeptical of your liberal operation with High return claims

Bitcoin is something I truelly think could be a game changer, but it'd up to the early adopters if that game changer will be for postive change or negative change.

    I had a questions on this.
How can you operate as a hedge fund and stil accept clients from the general public such as none qualified investers?

What are your experience to manage a hedge fund, what is the security future of holding clients money, do you have a custodian, and if so is it an internal auditor or external such as a TPA? How can you claim such high returns with certainty?

Also, seems like you advise people on what to do with their BTC, if you move into a Adviser role do you not have to be covered under FiNRA?

I am not saying this is a scam I am simply inquiring. I have been an Adviser for years, and I study for my designations. BitCoin wildy fascinates me but I feel like I do not understand the financial protection of the Currancy or the companies that run them.

I will not lie, I would love to run my own Practice with BitCoin as the main topic since I think there is some huge potential upsides, just would not dare touching other peoples money without understanding everything inside and out, would hope clients would feel the same with any firm.

I was actually reading that. But those are firms do other investments as well.. Not just Bitcoin.

I wouldn't say I have plans for investing, just doing some research on things as it has increased my interest.

Thanks man, I appreciate the reply.

Hi guys,

I have spent the past few days reading and studying about BitCoin. I have read;
-The Anatomy of Money-Like information 7Commodity; Study of BitCoin by Tim Swanson
-Bitcoin Secrets
-Bicoin Basics & Bitcoin Trading & Investing
-Bitshares 101.

They are books with some good detail about how bitcoin works.
My question is;  Do people use bitcoin for investable assets other then buy and store?
 
Are there Bitcoin investment firms or advisers? and if so do they belong to a FINRA Reg like S7,6, 63?