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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: July 28, 2017, 09:01:45 AM
I ordered The AntMiner L3+ for the September batch. However seeing how much the difficulty has increased without the value increasing, it doesn't look like it will be much profitable at that time.

What do you guy's think. Should I cancel my order? Can I mine another coin with the L3+ ?

On the previous page you have all the data. By using multipool ( mining other coins ) you can increase the revenue significantly. But the fall in output remains a fact, and I estimate that August batch will produce a similar drop in output to fall in July.

However after BTC hardfork,  LTC price may increase with BTC to compensate difficulty increasing.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: July 28, 2017, 07:01:02 AM
Unfortunately, if the LTC price does not rise then the situation in the next two months will be much worse.

Before July delivery daily profit with L3+ (PPS) was 0.92LTC (on July 13th).
Daily profit with L3+ on 27 July is only 0.65LTC (PPS) and still falls with new equipment.


Would somebody be so kind to give me some pointers, reading the above makes me think the Antminer L3+ is mining around 0.65 LTC per day on a standard pool ?

I am on Pro Hashing and in the last 24 hours have got just about 1 LTC, i am guessing this is a good figure?

Data comes from Antpool.
F2pool shows even less. F2 pool shows 0.00122492 LTC/Mhash/s which gives only 0.62LTC per day for L3+
Litecoinpool shows 0.66245977 LTC.

Your score is very good.

Maybe its time you moved over to pro hashing?

If only multipool ( Prohashing ) is reliable then the results speak for themselves.
My analysis only confirms what can be found on their site.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: July 28, 2017, 06:44:45 AM
Unfortunately, if the LTC price does not rise then the situation in the next two months will be much worse.

Before July delivery daily profit with L3+ (PPS) was 0.92LTC (on July 13th).
Daily profit with L3+ on 27 July is only 0.65LTC (PPS) and still falls with new equipment.


Would somebody be so kind to give me some pointers, reading the above makes me think the Antminer L3+ is mining around 0.65 LTC per day on a standard pool ?

I am on Pro Hashing and in the last 24 hours have got just about 1 LTC, i am guessing this is a good figure?

Data comes from Antpool.
F2pool shows even less. F2 pool shows 0.00122492 LTC/Mhash/s which gives only 0.62LTC per day for L3+
Litecoinpool shows 0.66245977 LTC.

Your score is very good.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: July 28, 2017, 06:35:20 AM
Unfortunately, if the LTC price does not rise then the situation in the next two months will be much worse.

Before July delivery daily profit with L3+ (PPS) was 0.92LTC (on July 13th).
Daily profit with L3+ on 27 July is only 0.65LTC (PPS) and still falls with new equipment.

That's about 30 percent less.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 24, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
Guys what you think about the price for L3+ on hashnest for next restock ?

I would not expect a low price.
Bitmain sells L3+ for 46.9 LTC in China. For us price is 41 LTC.
The next L3+ in Hashnest can cost even up to around $5600.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 20, 2017, 11:23:09 AM
Guys just think in way that Bitmain currently collecting LTC (L3+ payment in LTC only!), price will go high, but not immediately, they need to accumulate some quantity first. Currently is a lot better to spend money in LTC than in hardware equipment.... No need for further arguing, just follow the steps of Big players (Bitmain-Jihan) Smiley.

"Litecoin and USD payment methods are accepted for this batch."
This is not the truth you wrote about.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 20, 2017, 10:30:46 AM
See how much currently have to pay for the equivalent of one L3+ converted to hashpower at Hashnest (Market).
This is about 504MHs x 0.2860. It is about 144 LTC. That means that according to the current course you have to pay about $6624.

This shows madness and that the next L3+ in Hashnest can cost even up to around $5600.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 14, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
I have an unpleasant gut feelings that miners will be gone in less than a week

Will buy mine by Friday

My own view is contrary to yours...they will continue to kick them out like toasters...I mean they probably imho are NOT moving a lot of bitcoin miners to large data
halls and or users...not when LTC miners make so much more for the same shelf space

again I think they will kick them out to the point like toasters to be equiv to say 11 -14 month ROI like it was last jan/feb ...in other words about 100 bucks a month
after electric.

again, imho..they have to keep the bitmain plant going....generate cash for the sale/design of new asics and chips.they have employees and rent to pay on data halls

etc...

so again in my view they will run the L3+ miners into the dirt and such like they did the bitmain miners...you get one w/o a price pump in your coin of choice and you may

roi in 11-14 months...this will be by december in my view..if they front end this out like toasters this last 1/2 of the year

I think folk are gonna be shocked at the bitmain dump of equip on the 3 batches in July

again, hope I'm wrong..but it is what they do...more so it seems now that they have fully embraced a 2-3 month pre-order system

but man ...I got knc titans that are still hanging in there....I really, really hope I'm incorrect....my gut says NOPE ...all asic miners are evil ..they swamp the market...its what they do Smiley


July is going to be a ticking time bomb.... lots of L3+ coming online i am sure hashnest will also have some as we get closer to july. Get ready for difficulty spike.

The situation will be different if the LTC price jumps to $50. And there is such a possibility.
Bitmain does not want to kill the market because will not be able to sell hardware at good prices.
It will be like with BTC. LTC price will grow and demand for new devices will be maintained.
29  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Moving to China for the gir... I mean mining on: June 14, 2017, 03:58:29 PM
You do not have to move.
Find hosting in China. Buy your devices, configure them with your pool data and count your BTC in your wallet  Grin
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 12, 2017, 09:17:28 AM
I doubt it.
But it is possible to set a barrier price. This may be $4000, for example. This is possible because the LTC price has increased, the difficulty has recently decreased and will result in delivery equipment for September will soon disappear.

yes..hashnet will only reflect a price that bitmain is willing to pull a miner out of their data hall for..thus it is gonna be even more spendy imho with the LTC price pump

True.
Many believe that the equipment is too expensive.
But there will only be 84 million Litecoins ever mined, exactly 4 times the amount of Bitcoins.  However, Litecoins are currently trading for about 1/100th the price of Bitcoin. We should remember that.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 12, 2017, 06:37:45 AM
I doubt it.
But it is possible to set a barrier price. This may be $4000, for example. This is possible because the LTC price has increased, the difficulty has recently decreased and will result in delivery equipment for September will soon disappear.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 07, 2017, 10:11:46 AM
I'll just wait for the L4+  I assume the Aug/Sept batches are all of the L3+ they have in stock and are priced to pay for L4 development.  Once they ship all the L3+ in stock out they will replace with L4s and pre-sell those.

Part of the evil plan to dominate the world.

Remember that L3+ is the best script hardware on the market. Bitmain does not need to work on more powerful hardware. Not now in my opinion.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 07, 2017, 10:08:40 AM
All L3+ in Hashnest have been sold out.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: June 07, 2017, 08:05:02 AM
They can think and maximize profits.
It does not kill this market so fast. To make a profit you have to stretch it in time. And it must coincide with the LTC/USD rate. The rising LTC valuation will result in increased demand for new devices with ever-increasing difficulty.
So this business is spinning. 4-6 months ROI is a good solution.
With a very good profit to cost ratio (low power requirement), it's a very good solution.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon on: June 02, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
@tw0rak

I think that if you use solar panels, you will need to include the price of solar panels and all additional equipment for your calculations. Unless before the L3 + purchase it was repaid or bought for $1.

I think similar that $2000 are reasonable, 3000 or 3600 are not unless the LTC/USD price is maintained above $35-36.
You boast of good price because you were the first. The next can only dream.
36  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain releasing discounted S/T9's.... gearing up for new products? on: May 19, 2017, 07:59:34 AM
I do not think we will see new BTC equipment from Bitmain in next few months. The present is profitable enough. And it will be for a long time. Even if the BTC price drops.
Of course, work on new equipment must always be.
At the moment we have unmet need for L3 +. And here is actually a new huge market for Bitmain.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: May 12, 2017, 09:05:12 AM
WTF - Bitmain at it again...

953 more L3+ Miners available on Hashnest

3000.0 USD(99.43652635Ł) Each.

Wow such greed from Bitmain, glad i sold my miners at around .25LTC/Mhash a few days ago since it crashed down to .2LTC/Mhash instantly after these became available.
I expected new miners to come in stock at Hashnest but not at this price  Cheesy

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/difficulty

Looks like all the 1000 miners on sale for $3k each are already deployed on network look at the network hash rate spike it already did by 500Gh/s so they take your money upfront make you wait 3 days before activating for you while they mine 1.3x1000= 1300 LTC = $39000 extra. man its really smart.

Pls read what is written:

"Miners will be shipped & deployed within 72 hours of payment. The hashrate will take 72 hours to be credited to your account."

So it does not surprise me. I'm sure L3+ will be sold very soon.
38  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: SinoHash second facility opens for preorder on: May 12, 2017, 06:27:05 AM
Thank you Eric.

We often do not realize the difficulties you have to overcome.
These pictures for me are scary. Reconstruction of the road must take some time.
The land is mountainous and sparsely populated. Under such conditions it is hard to talk about reliability. Reliability simply costs money.

I personally work in a secure environment. Two different power lines with automatic switching. High power UPS. High-power generator in stock.
I try to understand the terms Sinohash offers. Of course I would like stable operation of the equipment in a long time.

I hope we will overcome all difficulties.
You are a good partner Eric.

What is the new devices delivery in such case? Nightmare!
39  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: SinoHash second facility opens for preorder on: May 10, 2017, 06:34:34 AM
Offline over a day, everyone else?

Yes, same here.
Also confirm.

I got information that there is a power problem and they are working on restoring power.
40  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: SinoHash second facility opens for preorder on: May 08, 2017, 07:20:34 PM
HannRa, order takes at least a week in my opinion. This is due to my orders and contacts with Eric.
Eric has less time than ever before. Nevertheless, always after the delivery gives you information by email. At least it was in my case.
I also paid Eric for extra equipment. Keep in mind that Bitmain is shipping in China at the earliest from May 12th if you think about S9.
Price, shipping, availability are different for China and the rest of the world.

It would be cool to see Eric here more often.
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