What's the usual turnaround time on board replacement?  They've had my boards for over a month and I can't get anyone to tell me what's up.

Another well packaged order received.  Thanks CMH!

It's because when people aren't bounded by rules, regulations or laws, or there's no enforcement, the community norms inevitably drift to selfishness.

This one is hilarious.  Fox News eagerly perpetuating a story from a tabloid as if it's true despite the Marine Corps Commandant today revealing it's a completely false story that never happened:  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/24/obama-wants-marines-to-wear-girly-hats/  And it's still on their website as if it's fact.

There's your problem right there.  Mainstream media parroting a story reported by a fake news channel.

My DGM round credit has been going down for the last couple hours.  Is that normal under certain circumstances with DGM?

Well, technically only 27-29 year olds since the rest of your 20ish kids can stay on their parents' plan until 26 now... I have a 24 year old son who's loving Obamacare.  Good luck rallying that group.  And Obamacare will lower my family's all-in healthcare costs by 60% so good luck trying to convince middle-aged white guys with solid jobs at Fortune 500 companies this is a failure.  And lower income Americans? Well I don't even need to tell you how they feel.  Your challenge is that, like me, Americans care only about themselves.  I couldn't care less about how this plan affects you or anyone else.  Incredibly short-sighted, I know, but that's the American way and like every other American I have to live in the here and now. I'm gonna get mine, screw you. That's the challenge you face in fighting this. My view of your circumstance is that you should be thankful to me for subsidizing your incredibly inexpensive healthcare all these years.  Seriously though, good luck to you in your fight. And you're welcome for the cheap health care I provided you--welcome to life as most Americans live it.

This is actually the free market at work--another company willing to provide the service.  Forcing the original company to provide a service they don't want to is the opposite of free market. And the subject of this thread is wrong and misleading.  I hate Visa as much as most here but this has nothing to do with Visa. I'm a gun owner and don't want to be told what I can and can't do in this regard, and others should be allowed the same liberties.  Golden Rule and all that...

Ditto on the prices. The "gold" plans are like a third the cost of the "bronze" plans the company I work for charges us now so my healthcare costs under the program will decrease by 60% if it all stays true. Yes, I've considered all the factors besides just premiums.  Or are you being sarcastic?

I find the US corporate response to all of this to be intriguing.  Their rhetoric is that Obamacare is pure evil but their actions indicate they are extremely excited to dump their employees into the program.  Their actions are virtually guaranteeing a full goverment takeover of healthcare in the US.

Wow this degenerated into name calling rather quickly...

So getting back to it, a person's perception is their reality.  Some questions: Do we as a community have a responsibility to shape perception if we care about bitcoin?  If so, how do we do that?  I'm asking because 99% percent of media stories about bitcoin mention Silk Road whether relevant to the story or not.  People's perceptions, outside the bitcoin community, are being shaped by such tidbits.  How do we get away from that? My co-workers, for example, are familiar with bitcoin and dismiss it as nothing more than a way to buy illicit products anonymously.  That's a real problem long term.  I acknowledge there are no easy answers.  Hoping to hear constructive input...

I recently (within past two weeks) received a refund for one of my orders.  I originally paid with BTC and requested the refund in BTC.  It was refunded in BTC at the current rate.  Took about 5 business days from the date I requested the refund to the date I actually got BTC sent to me.  YMMV--hope that's helpful.

I'm excited to see this system and think it's a great start.  Thought the Default Trust list can be removed from one's own profile I do not think it should be included automatically.  I think people who want to participate in this system should start with zero trusted members in their list and explicitly opt-in by manually defining those they trust.  That would also force them to go and review the depth-of-trust setting.

I'm sorry for your friends in Mexico. But it pales in comparison to the nearly 5,000 troops and 120,000 civilians killed in Iraq, including both my little brother and my best friend.  A war started based on fabricated evidence of weapons of mass destruction.  Not defending either F&F or Benghazi--just saying obviously partisan outrage adds to the problem.  So what's your solution?  I'm saying that if Obama resigned tomorrow absolutely nothing would change so fight the real problem.

Business as usual.  Here are 34 Bush-era scandals to stimulate conversation.  Oh, and BTW, this was just the first 4 years.

http://www.salon.com/2005/01/18/scandal_11/

So is this really a "conservative vs less-conservative" issue as some in the thread imply or is the larger issue about waste, fraud and abuse in government generally?  'Cause God knows conservative groups in America are gonna ride this all the way through the next election cycle as if no conservative-run government has ever done the same sorts of things.  Outrage about this specific incident should be more broadly directed otherwise it's just more of the same partisan crap.

Received my order today.  Great service!  I'll definitely be back for more soon.

The offical answer is "no".  https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/54-selling-your-bitforce-products.html

But since then they've added an order management system.  https://products.butterflylabs.com/customer/account/login/  When I login it allows me to edit the shipping address.  Didn't try saving it though since I don't want to do that, but it looks possible.  You should note that many seem to have bad luck getting into this system.  I never have, but there's alot of chatter about problems.

Try https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/  I don't use it but I've heard good things from several people.

All current limitations of Bitcoin aside, remember that the entire system is ultimately dependent on Internet connectivity.  Any grand plans for nation state adoption require broadly deployed Internet service.  Yes there are technologies that address this but they are quite immature.  Just saying, it needs to be considered as a factor depending on who you're talking about.  Cyprus, as an example since it's the favorite mention du jour, does not have very good Internet service on the whole.  In fact, it's quite poor.

Huh?  How is this particular transaction linked to Sonny + Josh?


I thought it was another funny coincidence that St Louis MO was the city on the 20,000 BTC move.   There seem to be a LOT of funny coincidences in MO with these two.   Get my sarcasm now?
[/quote]Considering the seriousness of your accusation I'd think you'd back it with something or specifically say you're goofing. The IP address of an Internet reseller in a metro area of over 2 million people does not constitute evidence, just FUD.