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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NSA KNOWS on: September 16, 2015, 06:49:47 AM
The sweet thing about secret agencies is that they don't need to KNOW who uses that ip, they only need to guess correctly. And even when they don't guess correctly, you still can be catched in their net wrongly.

They are not the police. They don't need to prove that you are guilty. They catch you away and you rot in some hidden prison. If they are not so sure about you then they will ask you, maybe abu ghraib style?

The police would be more your friend because they abide the law. I am sure many people are hurt in one way or another because of association (Sharing the same cellular id, being in the same place, using the same Tor exit node..)

People nag about metadata collection but I would advocate for content reviewal because metadata analysis can be way more dangerous than actually knowing who is who and doing what. Where the secret agencies can cause you security problems while in fact they should protect you being part of the 'larger national audience' , I think privacy is not very relevant anymore.

Ofcourse this is at the chokepoint where normal citizens, or even police working on the edge, get mixed up with criminals altogether. If only the secret services would have different ways of evaluating things, citizens would not waste this much time on anonimity services.

2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NSA KNOWS on: September 16, 2015, 06:40:03 AM
There's a degree of anonymity when you pay with Bitcoin: it's a little more than when you pay in cash, when you buy online, and it's THE SAME of paying in cash if you use Bitcoin at a cafe or in a shop.

I hope this topic is meant to have a sense of humor. The blockchain is there for all to see. And I too believe they connect to nodes and they can probably even interact with you (to know if your node is fully up to date).

Don't forget laundry services by definition can't be trusted because you don't know who is running them and various attacks can be launched against these services (if only 50 people use a laundry service in 1 mixing day, you will not get a high degree of anonimity)

And on your comment that cash is less anonymous. Well that's not true. But fortunately we use BTC for legit purposes and fun experiments only.

Having said that... if bitcould would by nsacoin they better use their calculation power to do some mining :-)
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beware of the scam www.bitcoin-mixer.com (bitcoin-mixer.com) on: September 16, 2015, 06:29:35 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I think there is a reference of those services on this forum.

You can also create a topic here with voting polls in it. I just forgot if newbie account are able to create it. There is also a voting platform which you can use http://coin-vote.com/ hope that helps.

One week later, still no coins from Bitcoin-mixer.com. I sent several amounts to 3 of their addresses. I also sent them email about 5 days in a row without any response. They are a scam and I felt that I needed to inform others for two reasons:

1. I only have 2 BTC left (I am not a new user but went out of the game and when I got back in, BTC was really valueable). For a robbery-site like bitcoin-mixer my coin might be nothing but for me it's a whole lot.

2. Services like bitcoin-mixer.com and alike scammers damage the Bitcoin community because of the mistrust these fraudsters create. I had better experience with other mixers but I am not here to advertise in this topic.

I think a list of reliable mixers is welcome on this forum or perhaps on an independent website. But tested by mulitple registered users and occasionally verified by the maintainer. It's just an idea. Would there be interest?


M4nfred
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Beware of the scam www.bitcoin-mixer.com (bitcoin-mixer.com) on: September 13, 2015, 09:06:35 AM

I wonder if on Bitcointalk we can organize a rating system of bitcoin laundries to see which are reliable. There are more and more laundry services popping up and most of them are a fraud and it's better to have the laundry services prove themselves or for the sake of users have a full page of laundry services and experiences.

I want to warn for this website: BITCOIN-MIXER.COM

Last wednesday I sent them money but it never reached my wallet. The money as proven in the Blockchain is in their wallet and they don't respond to numerous emails sent on Thursday Friday , Saturday .... I registered to this forum so I can warn people about the robbery taking place on bitcoin-mixer.com.

More succes I had with other mixers. Maybe other posters agree that a single reference for reliable services can be initiated.... question is how this is best implemented (with votes and comments but avoiding fake replies). Anyone ?

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