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Economy / Gambling / Re: Unofficial Unmoderated bitwincasino.com thread
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on: October 21, 2013, 12:39:59 PM
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I'll check the site out since he is going to send me some coins for free. I'll post later to tell you how it went :p
He did the same for me and it didn't go well. min withdrawal is 5x your bonus it doesn't seem like it's possible to hit that with it.
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Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] New Physical Bitcoins! 0.01 FV
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on: October 21, 2013, 12:10:41 PM
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I don't think you understand how holograms work.
They're not as secure as most other coins, but they're not meant to be. They're meant to be cheap. Serp's coins were almost identical. I know, It's just that ne could be yours, redeem them, resticker them and sell them/ trade them. Just a suggestion. kudos for cheapness though.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Unofficial Unmoderated bitwincasino.com thread
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on: October 21, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
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It's fine, I have undeniable proof that they are cheating their customers so it doesn't matter. go to Casinowebscripts.com which is the software maker they have documentation for the software there: https://www.casinowebscripts.com/doc/backend.pdfGo to page 5 Play For Real Percent Influences how often a player will win in real mode. Set this to 100% and the players will have random chances to win, depending on how the cards/symbols are positioned on the screen. The games will pay only if the bank has enough money to pay, otherwise the games will generate a combination of cards/symbols so that the player will lose.Randomness Play For Fun Percent Influences how often a player will win in fun mode. They admit that the games will pay losing combinations if the bankroll is too small. In addition, the games that play for fun have higher win rates than games for real money. Avoid this casino like the plague. If you read on, you can see the system were they have a "98% return" by going to page 6. Basically the casino takes 2% of your money regardless of what happens in the game. If the player pool is empty, it refills it by making you lose.
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Economy / Gambling / Unofficial Unmoderated bitwincasino.com thread
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on: October 21, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
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Since Oldminer is deleting any posts of criticism, please post here in regards to bitwincasino.com
What I posted was basically proof that they do not have 98% odds and that the games are rigged so that players can't make profit. Please play their multiplier wheel of chance and make as much of the wheel red as possible, you will see of unusually often it lands in the uncovered portion. I additionally got 15 tails in a row on coin toss.
The whole site is poorly made in general and I advise not gambling there if you want a chance to actually win more 1/10th your wager, or win in general for that manner.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Welcome to the Greatest Bitcoin Casino on earth!
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on: October 20, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
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Should you be punished because someone else was lucky? A casino like that is literally stealing money from you.
Lets reverse this statement - "Should you be lucky because someone else was 'punished' (lost)?" Is this lucky person then considered to be 'stealing' from the casino because someone else before him lost? When you walk into a Casino you have no idea whether the 'house' is in front or behind. You put your money in the slot and you hope the players before you lost, and lost big, because you know the odds of that slot paying out are 'likely' to be higher. You also hope that slot hasn't just paid out big for the same reason. You might say well maybe the slot is on a 'payout' streak? Maybe it is, maybe it isnt, but how can you know for sure either way? Its all about probability at the end of the day and no-one can ever know if they are about to win or lose before they gamble - ever. Thats why its called a 'gamble'. No matter what the game or where you play. This casino has a 98% payout and thats as good as you will get anywhere. The thing you have to understand is that slot's random number generators have no idea what the last numbers they made are. they are just as likely to pay 3 jackpots in a row as they are to pay 3 jackpots 6 months apart from each other. The thing with slots is that the odds aren't clear when you play them usually, but if your casino does indeed pay 98%, than that means, at all times, it should be the same odds. That means if a slot jackpot is 1000 credits, but the bank only has 950 so it decides to say that you can win the jackpot, even though you can't, and that the odds are 98%, even though removing the jackpot lowers the odds, then you are stealing from players, because you are advertising 98% returns when it is really lower. your games should all be independent and if another player wins 110% that he wagered, that doesn't mean the casino has 110% returns and should short pay the next player to make it average to 98%, it means he got lucky and the odds should remain 98%. If your upset that you lost money running a casino, just understand you are rolling dice too.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Welcome to the Greatest Bitcoin Casino on earth!
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on: October 20, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
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This bolded text is entirely wrong. Slots don't check if the bankroll is low, they pay out based on random numbers having nothing to do with what they previously paid out or other games pay out. This is the essence of gambler's fallacy.
I think it does, my IGT gameking, Multistar safari, ex casino game, I can go into the settings and choose which % of return it can be set to. So it obviously determans what to pay out based on what money its collected. right? else how does it calculate a payout rate? the payout rate is the expected average and doesn't change according to the previous play. for example, if I pay someone 5x their bet if they roll a 6 on a fair 6-sided die and they roll a 6 on the first roll, the die doesn't suddenly start rolling 1,2,3,4s and 5s to make up for it, it's simply what's expected and after an arbitrarily long number of rolls, the result tends to be around 0.833x the total amount wagered. The way real casinos make money is by gambling themselves, except they have a positive expected return (the key word being expected). They can be up a lot of money or down a lot of money, but on average, they make slightly more than what they are wagering. There have been many times where casinos are down a lot due to a high betting baccarat player, jackpot winner or other lucky player, but they don't suddenly start making games pay 50% on average to make their money back since then players won't come. Instead they stick with the same odds as usual and hope to make it back on the long run. more can be learned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy
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Economy / Lending / Re: 1-10 mil usd BTC loan request
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on: October 20, 2013, 09:49:21 AM
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For $10M I get a "whole house and yard".
Just yesterday I was commenting on how there was no established mechanism to turn giant piles of cash into real estate property.
You just solved it. I know tons of homeless people with millions of dollars. I mean you can't sleep inside a giant pile of money.
($10M) -> Dank -> ? ? ? -> House AND Yard.
Dude I would have been happy with just the House. You really should ask for $15M if the person wants a yard too.
Asshole. I just almost died from laughter. Well played.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: ♠ FREE 0.02BTC ♠ Bit777.com ♠ 50% DEPOSIT BONUS UP TO 5BTC TILL 10/14!!!
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on: October 19, 2013, 07:37:16 AM
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is there deposit 50% bonus?
anyway username: hasher87
and im having trouble trying to access the casino page. white screen
The bonus offer expired. However, I've still credited your account with the 50% bonus, and no rollover required for you. Consider it a lucky day. thanks for the deposit! just a quick question, why is it under account, my fund is 22 credits, but on the main page, it shows 28+? I am not sure, possibly you didn't refresh the account page. okay this is weird, i'll try to refresh or clear the cookie/cache if that helps anyway another error comes up Your Setup is Incorrect Please log in to your account and verify you have 3 green check marks. ? i wanna play roulette >.< Can you please send me screenshot to our email: cs@bit777.com . I haven't encountered such error before. Also send us your browser and OS. same error over here
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Economy / Gambling / Re: Welcome to the Greatest Bitcoin Casino on earth!
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on: October 19, 2013, 07:35:02 AM
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A casino with a self moderated thread? I dislike that. I mean, now you can delete all the negative feedback.
I wont be deleting negative feedback provided its justified & constructive - in fact, we welcome it. If somethings not working the way it should, we would like to know about it. On the whole, feedback from people that have tried the Casino has been very positive, but unfortunately the previous thread wasn't moderated and quickly filled with unnecessary & unwarranted spam. Too much money, time & effort has gone into setting up this Casino to see a thread promoting it graffitied by a few self-concerned individuals. A moderated thread fixes that issue. thx p.s. 100 free game credits sent to user 'howeth' Can you clarify on what was said in a previous thread that a bank balance is maintained? Does that mean that if the bank balance is low, odds change? will you also have provable fairness in the future?
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to set up a treasure map?
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on: October 19, 2013, 04:00:52 AM
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A simple way is that maybe the private key could be derived by a hash of many pieces of data, where each are long enough so that you would need all of them to practically compute the private key. And then you could have arbitrary amounts of data as well. Also the clues could be clues to find the next clue, which ends by finding the entire private key. That's interesting. So the first clue would be something like "Who is John Galt?", the answer to which might be "The man who stopped the motor of the world." And if you concatenate those strings, SHA256 it, there's your private key. Something like that? Yeah, or you can do what a few others have and just build a brainwallet string of words/ sentence.
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