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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: January 18, 2023, 05:46:44 AM

Too bad, Xtreme Gamin ended up losing that game but I kinda wonder why would you go for PSG.LGD on 1.18 odds though? At that low, I'd rather go for -1.5 on PSG.LGD or go for +1.5 on IG because I kinda think that its pointless to go that low especially in 3 legged acca because one minor mistake ended up losing the whole tickets. On this case, IG won their first game so its rather intense game

It is in a parlay anyway so betting on the moneyline lessens the risk for that match. Unfortunately, my Xtreme gaming vs knight line lost so all of that was for naught. Also, I am still not very familiar with Chinese teams, so I avoid handicaps for the while. 



Taking some action on WEU games later.

Team Secret started poorly this DPC Season and I am not sure they are winning anytime soon. Team Liquid is continuing their streak from last season and seams to be stronger with Nisha on the roster.


882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 16, 2023, 11:45:50 PM
While in DPC WEU Tour 1, Into the Breach pulled an upset against the reigning TI Champion, Tundra on their game 1. It was total carnage with the score. 51-5. Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

They were able to win game 2 and Game 3 is on the way. It is still a close match but ITB is on the lead right now.

ITB's teamfight dynamics is extremely impressive. Down by almost 20k in game 3 but they make Tundra look like they're far ahead in items and literally just everything. Great usage and timing of skills from ITB, and this version of Tundra post-TI seems to be scrambling to get their shit together especially on teamfights. Really hard to win against a Naga pick with Lesh being the most reliable wave clear, and you can't really expose this hero on the lane most of the time because you need him to be in team fights, otherwise any fight you'll be taking without the Lesh is a suicide mission.

29K lead and they just got the Rosh, this game will definitely be Tundra. Credit to ITB for giving a good fight even when they are down most of the time in Game 3. Their high-ground defense is awesome. Tundra is still having a hard time pushing the high ground even with the lead they have. Given more time, ITB will be a real threat to WEU teams. Their dynamics, as you said, is impressive and would probably improve more as the DPC season progresses.
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 16, 2023, 11:34:52 PM
I was not able to bet on the early games.

Los Angeles Lakers vs Houston Rockets @ 2.75

Los Angeles Lakers (19-24) will host the Hoston Rockets (10-33) tonight at Crypto.com Arena. The Lakers lost yesterday by a point against the Philadelphia 76ers and will be rearing to win this game.

884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 16, 2023, 11:28:03 PM
I think Westbrook was trying to pass to corner on that last possession, it looks like the ball went to the hoop but if you look closely he was trying to pass it to the guy who was open at the corner, which would have been very tiny time left, maybe not even enough to shoot. In any case, when there is a very little time left, it's never reasonable to go inside because there is a bigger chance you could be closely guarded, it's better to take a shot.

Either way, the Lakers should call a timeout and nothing else. That was around 10 secs. left and lots of time to make a good play.

The Lakers are down by 1 and no one from the coaching staff even advises their players to call a timeout. They blew that opportunity and chances to win the game. I don't know why they thought that time and didn't decide to call a timeout.

I want the close game though that both teams managed to perform where there are lots of exchange of score leads happened.

Maybe that is due to the inexperience of the coach and his staff. But Lebron was also in the court, he could have called the time out himself since he is the most veteran player in there. Anyway, if they called a time out, they can set up an offense but the defense of Philly will also set up. Maxey and other defenders will be on court and it may be harder to execute.

Now, I really doubt the capabilities of the Lakers coaching staff. It is not yet playoffs and they are not able to make the proper calls already. That is too bad.
885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 16, 2023, 11:20:37 PM
While in DPC WEU Tour 1, Into the Breach pulled an upset against the reigning TI Champion, Tundra on their game 1. It was total carnage with the score. 51-5. Tundra is rather performing really inconsistently this DPC season, and they are playing like they are not the TI champion. They did not have any changes in their roster, so chemistry is not the problem. I do not know the problem, but they should fix it.

They were able to win game 2 and Game 3 is on the way. It is still a close match but ITB is on the lead right now.
886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 16, 2023, 11:00:34 PM
Bad decision by the coach of Bay Area, they didn't play Powell with heavy minutes knowing this is the last game. If only he was given a chance to played heavy minutes, certainly there's a good chance they can make it a close game and maybe win the game. If only Nicholson wasn't injured, things could be different, I mean Ginebra can still win but it will not be a blowout win.

Even when he was in the court, he could not made any difference. He is already forcing the drive into the paint, and getting fouls but he is not making the free throws. Their 3 points was missing in that game, that is why they got blown out by Ginebra. They cannot attack the paint because of the tight defense and all they have left was forced 3. It was very seldom that they got an open 3. Credit should go to the players of Ginebra who had a tight and relentless defense against the dragon. The Dragons failed to adjust to the defense of Ginebra.

Is Brownlee is still eligible to play? He is now a Filipino, so he can play as a Filipino and if Ginebra will get an import, I think this team will become a champion easily. Do we have an information regarding this? please share so we will be aware.
Yes, that actually is. He's now a Filipino citizen and no longer an import and I think that Ginebra will take care of him otherwise, other teams will take care of him. Also, AFAIK, he's now added to the Gilas pool.


Yes, he is the import in the Gilas squad which is why they grant him his citizenship. About Brownlee playing as a regular in Ginebra, that will be to unfair for the other teams. Ginebra will have a constant import in their roster if that happens. I hope PBA will not let this happen. It will ruin the competition.
887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you handle your losses on: January 16, 2023, 09:13:18 PM
For me, acceptance is the key in handling my losses. Whether it is a big or small loss, accepting the fact that you have lost is the first step in moving on and letting it go. If I cannot accept it, I will always try to chase the amount until I am in a deeper hole and lose a lot more. It happened to me before and I learned from it. I used to gamble in roulette and chase my losses by doing martingale. But it does not work. One long loss streak and you will lose everything. So, I learned to move on and accept my loss. If ever it is a big loss, I will take away myself from gambling for a while and stop betting. This resets me and prepares me to make my next move in gambling.

It also helps that I have a fixed amount set for gambling. I do not over spend now since I can only spend the set amount.
888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 16, 2023, 06:44:17 PM

Do you think the tanking of rockets is worth?


If they will be able to land Victor Wembanyama, then it is worth it. They have a very young roster with Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, and Kevin Porter. If they add Wembanyama in there, in a few years they will be very dangerous.

And who can forget the biggest one of them all....picking Sam bowie over Michael Jordan 😂

Can't imagine Michael Jordan in another team's uniform. I do not think he will be as successful if he was drafted by Portland.
889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 16, 2023, 04:01:35 PM
What a game between the Lakers and the Sixers, I thought that the Lakers is going to win the game because have a chance when Joel missed the shot and Russ got the rebound. Unfortunately, he went 1:1 fumble the ball and then force his shot with Joel in front of him.

I have a ML bet on the Lakers, was so close for a win because they are the underdog in this game.

Not sure why they didn't call a timeout, I think they still have 1 and with 14 seconds to go, they could have execute a better play to them in order to get that huge win.

Miscalculation and I also agree that they can call a timeout and plan their offense instead of taking that force shot, maybe
Lakers coach just give his trust to Russ so he allows him to make his way to the basket.

Most of the time, coach will call a timeout knowing that they've got enough time to execute a play.

Not for you, mate, better to move forward and pick another game tomorrow. Grats to all those who take
the handicap, a close game for Lakers handicap, is fully covered.

I just watched the replay and in retrospect, it could have been a good call since Philly's defender is on the bench and Westbrook has a mismatch against Embiid. If Westbrook did not almost lose the ball, he could have a better momentum going to the ring and could have made that shot. It was a good game, too bad I missed it.

For bettors, the spread is -6.5, are you willing to risk on that?

The Lakers are coming from a back-to-back game and are 19-23 against the spread. so I do not think it is good idea to bet on that line.

890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 16, 2023, 08:42:10 AM
I think the Nuggets will be the next team to enter the NBA finals if they will remain healthy throughout the season, they cannot spoil this one because such kinds of season performances cannot be assumed to be the same next year, they really need to do something this year to stop their traditional playoff knockouts.

They could, but so the other teams in the west. There are lots of strong teams right now in the west it is hard to predict who will win the WCF. They have the right roster though and with luck they might get to the finals. We will see, we will see what happens after the trade deadline since some teams get boosted with a good trade during that time. Maybe the Nuggets can still get a good trade and boost their roster to win the WCF.
891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 16, 2023, 08:05:27 AM
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This parlay is so close, 2-1 the Final Score. Only the Lakers lost in this parlay. The Sacramento Kings beat the San Antonio Spurs with a landslide victory where the Kings is up with 13 points. In the game between Denver Nuggets and Orlando Magic, Nikola Jokic is the reason why the Nuggets won. His clutch 3 points play save them to OT. A lot of people have hype when they saw the highlights of Jokic earlier this morning. It only prove him he deserve the title of MVP of the NBA. In the 3rd match, Lakers lost in 76ers with only 1 point. I thought that the lakers has a momentum but their lineup right now is not healthy as before.

Yeah, I almost got it. It is devastating to lose the parlay like how I lost it. I was not able to watch the game because I was busy but when I checked the results, it was wow. Just one point. Will watch the replay later. I believe the Lakers can win at home even though the bookies see them as underdog. And they almost did. Maybe I will have a better luck next time.
892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 15, 2023, 11:37:59 PM
San Antonio Spurs vs Sacramento Kings @ 1.38

The Sacramento Kings (23-18) will face the San Antonio Spurs (13-30) tonight at At&T Center. The Sacramento Kings should win this and cover the spread.
Kings key injuries: Kevin Huerter (illness) questionable
Spurs key injuries: Dough McDermott (back) questionable, Devin Vassel (knee) out

Denver Nuggets @ 1.20 vs Orlando Magic

The Denver Nuggets (29-13) will face the Orlando Magic (16-27) tonight at Ball Arena. The Magic have been performing well on the road but the Nuggets should win this game.
Magic key injuries: Gary Harris (finger) questionable
Nugets key injuries: Jeff Green (finger) out, Jamal Murray (ankel) probable

Los Angeles Lakers @ 2.27 vs Philadelphia 76ers

The Los Angeles Lakers (19-23) will host the Philadelphia 76ers (26-16) tonight at Crypto.com Arena. The 76ers is the heavy favorite but the Lakers seems to play extra hard at home.
Lakers key injuries: Patrick Beverly (illness) out, Anthony Davis (foot) out, Lebron James (ankle) probable, Austin Reaves (hamstring) out, Lonnie Walker IV (knee) out

893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 15, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
I'm sorry to say but I don't think there is such loyalty with this teams. I mean even if Dame wanted to stay, but if the management decided to ship him out, he can't do anything about it. Only few players remain loyal to their team and retired with them but they bring championship to that franchise. If Dame can't do it, then obviously management will have to go to rebuilding phase. And when you are out of your prime, then most likely the team will not value you anymore, just saying.

Well, Dame has been vocal about his commitment and loyalty to the team so it will all depend on the management. He still has a contract up to Season 2024 so he is guaranteed to be paid until then. If Dame wants to chase a ring, he should go somewhere else. Since CJ was shipped out, he has no help anymore to make a title run in Portland. He is aging and soon his value will drop. If he cannot bring a ring to Portland because of the lack of support from management, he should get it somewhere else.

I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

Clarkson really wanted to win this match. It's unbelievable to score 38 points. It would certainly be beneficial for the team if a player with such talent and scoring so many points stays in the team. But it is very important that this performance is consistent and that it contributes to the team in a similar way in every match. It was a sad loss for the Utah Jazz, they lost the game by only 1 point
What a great performance Clarkson put on in his last game. I was surprised with his performance and it's clear that I have no doubts that he intends to become an allstar.
I confess that I was kinda sad with the defeat of the Jazz in the last game with only 1 point, but the Philadelphia 76ers stood out and managed to win the match.
I'll be curious to see if this great performance from Clarkson will hold up... he's been playing very well in a few games lately.

Aside from some moments when he is squaring up some players, I think he is performing consistently this year. I think all players wanted to be included in all-star list and Clarkson definitely wants to be included. But it will all depend on the votes. So if you want to see him play in all star, you should vote for him.
894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 15, 2023, 11:10:13 PM
I've read that it was an official cheat and Perfect World has also sent the accusation to Valve for which the action will be heavier and taken more seriously.
They're never scared of the sanction and it will cost them their entire career. I can remember the Malaysian team(arrow gaming) and players that have been involved in a match-fixing. They were very promising during that time but ended up too soon when they got involved in the issue and now, they can just join those mini tournaments that are not managed by Valve and other big organizers.
That is some serious stuff. Thank you @ralle14 & passwordnow for the info on this news on the DOTA2 match fixing accusation on team knights.
Just hope all who bet on PSG-LGD got their betslips refunded or void from their accas.
No problem.  Wink
I've just thought that it may not be refunded for some since it's likely that the winning might already be sent and spent by those who have received it.
But it should have been voided earlier in the first place if there are bookies that are aware of it but I guess, they can't adjust too quick when it's on the process and investigation on it.

 I am not aware of the cheating but if the dispute was filed after the game, then bookies have no control over it. Normally, online bookies instantly send payments to the winners so even if PSG filed a complaint and proved, the payment was already paid. I do not think the bookies will return any money. It is what it is for now. Let's hope there is no more cheating done. There is so many cheatings done this season. This season even opened with a series of bans.
895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 15, 2023, 08:54:43 PM

What the hell happened to Bay Area Dragons? I'm expecting a close Game 7 series after their Game 6 win performance.

That is also what I am asking myself while watching the game. It is like I am watching a different team. Their outside shooting was off, they cannot penetrate the paint and even their free throw shooting was absent. I do not know if they are intimidated by the huge crowd cheering for Ginebra but their performance really took a steep decline from what we usually see. One thing I know, Ginebra is really going for the win. They are active at both ends of the court and they are relentless in their defense against the dragons.

Congratulations to Ginebra and their backers!!!
896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 15, 2023, 08:26:58 PM
I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.

Right now, the Jazz can only offer up to $16 Million for a contract extension. With the way Jordan Clarkson is performing right now, he deserves above $20 Million for the first year. The Jazz cannot legally offer that because of NBA restrictions on extensions. I think he will wait until the off season and then he can legally negotiate a higher price, whether it will be with the Jazz or another team. And if that does not pan out or no offers came, he can always pick up his player options for the 2023-2024 season. 

....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,
Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

Since they are rebuilding, the Jazz probably will get their franchise player from draft picks and will need Jordan Clarkson as a veteran that will guide or mentor the young superstars.
897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 15, 2023, 10:03:17 AM
And I think Dame + Lebron might be a good combo.

Looks good on paper. That would be Dame + AD + Lebron. Dame is the outside shooter that the Lakers need. He would complement very well how AD and Lebron play. The only problem I see here is that these 3 will eat a big chunk of their salary cap. They will have the same problem that they have now. There is no budget left to get good role players that they need to support these 3. They will end up getting aging veterans to fill up their roster. But knowing the Lakers, if given the chance, they will push through in getting these trio together.

6th place to 13th place doesn't have much difference and could be changed but I agree with you. With David less Lakers, it won't be easy to climb to the 8th spot. If Anthony Davis will always be like this, it is not far from happening that he will be like others who lose their shine because of injury.

They don't need to climb to the 8th spot. They just need to qualify for playin and force their way into the playoffs. This is possible if AD is healthy since the standing is very closely knit together. I think that is the only way they can make it to the playoffs. Anyway, even if they qualify, there is no way they are beating the top teams in the west. Not with this current roster. 
898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 15, 2023, 09:26:36 AM
The 1.4 odds from Rollbit is very low. What's the solution? Bet against it Cheesy.


It's only a small amount that I put my bet with but that will make me more enjoyable to watch especially that I'm against the herd. For sure, most of the PH people will go for Ginebra to win the title but I still believe that the record of Powell in this conference will not end up with a loss. His undefeated record and the fact that Ginebra can't stop him is the reason why I put my bet to them. Well, the game will happen after 1 hour so lets just enjoy watching.

If you want better odds, do not bet on money line. Bet on over/under or spread, it will give you better odds than betting on straight money line. Rely on previous games on betting over/under to be sure which line to take.

This game is so much hype. Just the introduction of the first five have good production. I am sure we will watch a thrilling game tonight.

To all bettor, whether its for BAD or Gins, good luck!!!

899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 15, 2023, 12:10:25 AM
Charlotte Hornets vs Boston Celtics @ 1.30

The Charlotte Hornets (11-32) will host the visiting Boston Celtics (31-12) tonight at Spectrum Center. Barring unexpected events, the Boston Celtics should easily win this game and cover the spread.
Celtics key injuries: Malcolm Brogdon (personal) questionable, Jaylen Brown (groin) out
Hornets key injuries: Gordon Hayward (hamstring) doubtful

Minnesota Timberwolves vs Cleveland Cavaliers @ 1.65
The Cleveland Cavaliers (27-16) will visit the Minnesota Timberwolves (21-22) tonight at Target Center. The Cavaliers will end their 5-game road trip against the Timberwolves. They have won against Portland, 119-113.
Cavaliers key injuries: Dean Wade (shoulder) out, Dylan Windler (ankle) out
Timberwolves key injuries: Jordan McLaughlin (calf) out, Karl-Anthoney Towns (calf) out

Utah Jazz vs Philadelphia 76ers @ 1.37
The Philadelphia 76ers (25-16) will meet the Utah Jazz (22-23) tonight at Vivint Arena. The 76ers lost to Oklahoma City Thunder at home Thursday night. Utah won against the Orlando Magic Friday night, 112-108.
76ers key injuries: Tobiad Harris (knee) questionable

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900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: January 14, 2023, 11:28:24 PM
As for ZywOo and S1mple, it's pretty understandable why HLTV opted for S1mple. The guy has been consistent for years, and even though his team is not performing that well as of late, he still managed to post high ratings albeit being on the losing side for many tournaments.

Their team did start strong early last year. They had good finishes in some tournaments, and they remained favorites even in the latter tournament of 2022. S1mple was fragging consistently in every tournament though some of his teammates are quite inconsistent. COngratulations to S1mple for making the top player twice in a year. It is quite an achievement.



Taking some actions on DOTA 2 later.

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