Bitcoin Forum
May 10, 2024, 11:30:01 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5]
81  Economy / Economics / Re: Occupy Money Cooperative - A new non-bank financial cooperative debit card thing on: July 30, 2013, 05:38:29 AM
This is almost as funny as the 'occupy currency'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hRIuCGqF40Y
82  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Who knows Trendon Shavers? on: July 25, 2013, 12:06:29 AM
I will always find it very amazing that people invested money with someone that used the nickname 'Pirate', then wonder why the investment fails.
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lets get US Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) into Bitcoin on: July 17, 2013, 11:01:21 PM
Someone like Warren, who is at heart a socialist, would never support something like Bitcoin.

If she figures out that Bitcoin 'accounts' can't realistically be confiscated, seized, taxed, or regulated (bitcoin->bitcoin is unregulated, and can never be regulated), she'd probably try to get the government to ban it. Especially if all of a sudden a bunch of wealthy people decide to start buying bitcoins to avoid capital controls, or other regulations.

Also, remember that the goal of socialism is to abolish the use of currency all together. Because it's 'unfair'.

Bitcoins can be taxed.

Only if you hand them over.

They won't like the fact that:

1. They can't determine how many you own.
2. They can't scare a bank into giving them your money.
84  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lets get US Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) into Bitcoin on: July 17, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
Someone like Warren, who is at heart a socialist, would never support something like Bitcoin.

If she figures out that Bitcoin 'accounts' can't realistically be confiscated, seized, taxed, or regulated (bitcoin->bitcoin is unregulated, and can never be regulated), she'd probably try to get the government to ban it. Especially if all of a sudden a bunch of wealthy people decide to start buying bitcoins to avoid capital controls, or other regulations.

Also, remember that the goal of socialism is to abolish the use of currency all together. Because it's 'unfair'.
85  Economy / Services / Re: [ANN] CoinBoards.org - New Bitcoin and Litecoin Community! on: June 24, 2013, 06:37:00 AM
What would happen to someone who went onto your forum, then linked to one of their own bitcoin forums telling everyone it's the new bitcoin forum?

Yeah.
86  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncapped coin vs capped coin supply on: June 22, 2013, 12:30:40 AM
If bitcoin was meant to replace the dollar or the euro - capped coin supply would be a problem.
I don't think it ever will. Borrowing and lending etc. will remain the domain of fiat currency, bitcoin will be used for transfering money across international borders and for many online purchases but fiat currency isn't going anywhere so I don't think the coin cap is a problem, 21 million is more than enough for our lifetime. Let the next generation not even born yet worry about what happens next.

How?

The coins are infinitely divisible. You might as well just say there are not 21 million bitcoins, but 21 infinity plus one coins. Because the reality is they can infinitely be broken down if it ever comes down to that.

Yes, some people will be made quite wealthy, so there is an argument that early adopters 'unfairly' benefit, a small minority gets a windfall.

So the alternative to this is where the government prints money, and a small minority gets a windfall?

There is one difference though, a small minority gets a windfall once. The alternative government money printing is a small minority gets a windfall until the currency eventually implodes. Then the process repeats itself all over again.
87  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 19, 2013, 02:05:47 AM
This is now sold.

For those that are curious, I let it go for 14 BTC, which is ironically about what I paid for it in BTC  Grin
88  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 18, 2013, 10:06:27 PM
Wow, for a pre order?! Take it! TAKE IT!!!

It's still pending, we'll see.
89  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 18, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
Care to disclose the price you've been offered? Would be good to know in case your sale falls through so we know what your ballpark selling range is.

18BTC.
90  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 18, 2013, 09:14:49 PM
Sale pending.
91  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 18, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
I have one offer for this already. If no one else is interested looks like I'll be selling it to them.
92  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncapped coin vs capped coin supply on: June 18, 2013, 04:07:44 AM

We had a nice deflationary period during 1932 about -10% for about 10 years, coinciding with the great depression (coincidence?). The reason was because the velocity of money grinded to a halt (see my first post) and liquidity was drained.

During the great depression, the government tried to prevent prices from falling (fearing deflation!), they accomplished this by doing the following:

1. Buying food off the market with taxpayer dollars, then storing it in huge silos and eventually allowing it to spoil.
2. Paying farmers not to farm.
3. Ordering farmers to destroy their crops (essentially criminalizing production).

The government did everything they could to prevent prices from falling, and the price of labor was definitely not allowed to fall. As a result, massive unemployment. Supply and demand was not allowed to function properly because of government policy.

I can't tell you how many stories I have with police officers going around town, looking for people making pants illegally (see national recovery act), what a great use of police resources.

Had the government done nothing, prices would have fallen, along with incomes, but the purchasing power would have been roughly the same. If you had a job during the great depression, you were doing awesome.

The price of labor would have fallen, allowing people to be hired again.

Think about it, imagine today if we had a -50% deflation instantly, so that a min. wage job became worth twice as much in real terms. What would happen?

Massive unemployment.
93  Economy / Economics / Re: Uncapped coin vs capped coin supply on: June 18, 2013, 12:15:05 AM
Obvious Fact: Population growth is not capped

Population cannot grow faster than the ability to feed. Population self-regulates. Noticed how there has only been an explosion of human population after the industrial revolution. If the planet can't support x billion people, people start dying off (sad but true).

Obvious Fact: More people on earth means more demand for natural resources as basic necessities, and as a result more currency in circulation has to supply the demand for these resources.

The amount of currency in circulation is irrelevant. What matters is the amount of products and services available to purchase.

If the price level is 100, and $100 buys you a weeks worth of provisions, it is no different than a price level of 1000, and $1000 buying you a weeks worth of provisions.


Kind of what I was saying, we def need more deflation with our society now but we don't want to hyper deflate either.

It's only going to be 'hyper-deflation if the world adopts bitcoins as a monetary standard. If that happens, once it has been adopted the price levels will only drop at whichever rate the economy expands. Economies don't hyper-expand, so there can't be hyper-deflation.

And if there is 'hyper-deflation', suddenly being able to buy a new Mercedes Benz for $1 doesn't strike me as a bad thing. (And yes, I know incomes would fall in a hyper-deflation scenario, but the purchasing power would be the same as before)

There's such a thing as too much deflation, which can cause hyper mania and crashes several times a year.

The reality is when currencies have been allowed to deflate, it's happened at a very slow rate. It depends on how much the economy expands. The only 'hyper-deflation' we're going to see, is if bitcoin goes world-wide with massive adoption, after that it will stabilize and prices in bitcoins will fall slowly over time depending on how economies expand (or contract which would cause prices to rise).

Absent aliens dropping machines that last forever that automagically make everything we could ever want, you're not going to see hyper-deflation where purchasing power rises 500% a year.
94  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] 2 BFL Chip Credits for 0.1 BTC on: June 17, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Or best offer.
95  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: has anyone tried "double your bitcoins"? on: June 17, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
I am quitting life, and I have too many bitcoins! So I'm giving away bitcoins for FREE!

Just send bitcoins to 1GCPtL8Xj1yvkfcPUgsc4MrAHc48Rzn9b3 and I will send you back DOUBLE for free!

... Do you really have to ask?

This reminds me of the scams in eve-online, basically the same thing. Send me ISK, I'll double it. The way it works is they will usually double small amounts and then when some idiot sends a big amount, they don't double it but just keep it.
96  Other / Off-topic / Re: Found BTCs? on: June 17, 2013, 05:21:26 AM
You found my coins! Thanks.

Go ahead and send them to 1GCPtL8Xj1yvkfcPUgsc4MrAHc48Rzn9b3, be sure to keep 10% for yourself as a reward.

Cheesy

But seriously, bitcoin isn't a decade old. So I wonder if this is even real. Pictures or it didn't happen.

97  Economy / Computer hardware / Price Check: September 2012 Jalapeno (Upgraded to 7Gh) on: June 17, 2013, 04:10:12 AM
Hey all,

I'm curious what someone would be willing to pay for Jalapeno. Order number is in the 9xxx range, and has been upgraded to 7Gh.

I haven't decided completely whether to sell it or not yet, but want to see what I could get for it.

- Voogru.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: April 24, 2013, 06:23:55 PM
rDef7upWuE3Wu8QCA23UjnYX6L3vbwNJAZ
99  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: April 14, 2012, 10:42:07 PM
I've been following bitcoin for quite a bit, would like to be whitelisted.

I'm developing a bitcoin site and would like to ask some best practices question with regards to accepting payments and processing bitcoin transactions.
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 [5]
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!