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Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特儿可能没有足够的资金偿还客户
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on: February 21, 2015, 08:02:49 PM
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真是悲惨结局，不过也捞够钱了吧，落到这种结局却是让人觉得可惜。不管如何，人们很难再次相信比特儿了，甚至很难相信比特币了。
这和比特币有什么关系。 出了一次911或马航，难道你一辈子不乘坐飞机了？ 這個比喻還不太正確! 馬航掉的真的是飛機, 但比特兒卻不是比特幣 马航就相当于比特儿平台，飞机好比比特币。 马航出问题，你可以选其他航空公司。 但因此就拒绝乘坐飞机，就是因哽废食了。楼上那哥们说得因比特儿平台倒闭就因此不再相信比特币，就属于因哽废食。  坐飛機本身的風險, 就是坐馬航的風險, 所以其實是同一事情. 但比特幣的風險, 並不是比特幣交易平台的風險. 比特幣沒有交易對手風險, 不會也不能跑路. 所以你的比喻並不準確. |
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Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特儿可能没有足够的资金偿还客户
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on: February 21, 2015, 03:09:20 PM
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真是悲惨结局，不过也捞够钱了吧，落到这种结局却是让人觉得可惜。不管如何，人们很难再次相信比特儿了，甚至很难相信比特币了。
这和比特币有什么关系。 出了一次911或马航，难道你一辈子不乘坐飞机了？ 這個比喻還不太正確! 馬航掉的真的是飛機, 但比特兒卻不是比特幣 |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Another MtGox happening right now in China! 500 mil.$ lost. Prepare for a crash!
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on: February 08, 2015, 05:49:11 PM
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"Mycoin.hk", a bitcoin thing in Hong Kong, apparenly closed without warning and owners disappeared with all clients coins. Losses seem to be about 3 billion yuan, or 500 million USD -- on the same level as the MtGOX collapse. The nature of mycoin.hk's business was not clear. It apparently involved mining, and perhaps some Ponzi-like scheme. I could not tell whether it also worked as a live exchange. Article in Chinese: http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20150208/19034053Google translation: WASHINGTON virtual currency Bitcoin (Bitcoin) once touted, Hong Kong discovered bust incident involving three billion yuan. Legislative Councillor Leung Yiu-chung received nearly ten investors in Bitcoin for help, said the suspect was a bit currency trading scams and storage platform, the largest loss of over $ 10 million estimate amounted to 30 the number of people affected, involving an amount or up to three billion yuan, victims today collective police. […] EDIT: See also the reddit thread. One comment in there claims that the report is incorrect. If this turns out to be true then China or the PBOC will probably ban Bitcoin in China once and forever. With all the chinese money disappearing Bitcoin will probably crash to ~50$ according to financial bitcoin experts.   Can someone please get an english news source of this story or someone from China can actually say the real story. This is appearing fake for multiple reasons... It's a Ponzi involving some kind of mining contract. The scammer said they would pay 0.64BTC of interest per day for every 90BTC investment. By the way, they claim 3 billion HKD, not CNY. But this 3 billion HKD is pulled out of their ass. Only 30 victims seek help and they claims loss of 1 million HKD on average. The legislative councillor speculates that there are 3000 victims and ALL OF THEM lost 1 million HKD. That's how the 3 billion HKD calculated. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 08, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
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Google translation: WASHINGTON virtual currency Bitcoin (Bitcoin) once touted, Hong Kong discovered bust incident involving three billion yuan. Legislative Councillor Leung Yiu-chung received nearly ten investors in Bitcoin for help, said the suspect was a bit currency trading scams and storage platform, the largest loss of over $ 10 million estimate amounted to 30 the number of people affected, involving an amount or up to three billion yuan, victims today collective police. […] EDIT: See also the reddit thread. One comment in there claims that the report is incorrect. Never heard of that site, 500 million USD? what? How is that even possible for an unknown site like that to have so many funds? The math does not seem right. If I understood the translation correctly, 30 victims sought the police and some losses (the largest ones?) were 10 million yuan. That would be 300 million yuan, not 3 billion.
Perhaps the reporter goofed?
Perhaps they extrapolated to 300 clients?
Number digits in China and Japan are traditionally grouped by fours rather than by threes, so that "2 million" is written "200 万" where 万 means "ten thousand". Perhaps that is the source of confusion, either by the reporter or by Google Transalte?EDIT: forget it, see the post by @jl2012 above The land area of Hong Kong is just about the same as the New York City. If there were 3000 people here all losing 1 million HKD (129000 USD), I would literally expect blood on street. |
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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on: February 08, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
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"Mycoin.hk", a bitcoin thing in Hong Kong, apparenly closed without warning and owners disappeared with all clients coins. Losses seem to be about 3 billion yuan, or 500 million USD -- on the same level as the MtGOX collapse. The nature of mycoin.hk's business was not clear. It apparently involved mining, and perhaps some Ponzi-like scheme. I could not tell whether it also worked as a live exchange. Article in Chinese: http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/art/20150208/19034053Google translation: WASHINGTON virtual currency Bitcoin (Bitcoin) once touted, Hong Kong discovered bust incident involving three billion yuan. Legislative Councillor Leung Yiu-chung received nearly ten investors in Bitcoin for help, said the suspect was a bit currency trading scams and storage platform, the largest loss of over $ 10 million estimate amounted to 30 the number of people affected, involving an amount or up to three billion yuan, victims today collective police. […] EDIT: See also the reddit thread. One comment in there claims that the report is incorrect. It's a Ponzi involving some kind of mining contract. The scammer said they would pay 0.64BTC of interest per day for every 90BTC investment. By the way, they claim 3 billion HKD, not CNY. But this 3 billion HKD is pulled out of their ass. Only 30 victims seek help and they claims loss of 1 million HKD on average. The legislative councillor speculates that there are 3000 victims and ALL OF THEM lost 1 million HKD. That's how the 3 billion HKD calculated. |
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What is a Bitcoin soft fork? (in laymen's terms)
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on: February 06, 2015, 04:19:17 AM
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You could edit the maximum allowed block size in the code. Change it to 100 KB and it'll be a soft fork, change it to 100 MB and it'll be a hard fork.
Good example. Changing the max block size from 1MB to 0.1MB is a softfork, because it makes previously valid blocks (0.1MB-1MB) invalid. I think changing the max block size from 1MB to 0.1MB is a hard fork, actually. Miners that don't upgrade will generate one 1MB and those won't be accepted but the upgraded clients, forking the blockchain. A soft fork would be changing the max block size one produces from 1MB to 0.1MB, while leaving the max block size one accepts unchanged.Or am I wrong? #sincerequestion People are ALREADY doing this and as johoe explains this is not a fork. A fork, soft or hard, must involve a rule change in the validity of transactions/blocks. |
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Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What is a Bitcoin soft fork? (in laymen's terms)
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on: February 05, 2015, 06:28:42 AM
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You could edit the maximum allowed block size in the code. Change it to 100 KB and it'll be a soft fork, change it to 100 MB and it'll be a hard fork.
Good example. Changing the max block size from 1MB to 0.1MB is a softfork, because it makes previously valid blocks (0.1MB-1MB) invalid. Changing the max block size from 1MB to 10MB is a hardfork, because it makes previously invalid blocks (1MB-10MB) valid. |
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Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Tool to brute-force offline armory password?
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on: February 05, 2015, 04:38:45 AM
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Don't, under any circumstances, accept to receive is wallet and password info in the unlikely event that he changes his mind. With this attitude, you can only get trouble from it; and if something bad later happens you will most likely be blamed. If he thinks that losing the btc is better than giving you a chance to help him, but also a chance to steal his btc if you are dishonest, then he is more mistrusting than most (to put it politely).
I thought about bringing this up earlier as a general threat vector (i.e., I'm not saying the OP would do this), but yes, this is one reason why people don't like handling private user/customer data. What are the chances that the user will turn around and make false/inaccurate claims? The blockchain and the various analytics make it easy to concoct a story where the evil Armory developer (or hacker breaking into an Armory computer) swept the wallet into their own wallet. It's a huge Pandora's Box that many people would prefer not to touch in the first place. Providing the recovery script is a good compromise for people who have the technical chops to use it. Everybody else? Frankly, in some ways, we're taking as much of a risk as they are in sending us their data, if not more so. Instead of directly encrypting the private key with the user passcode, we could encrypt the private key with a long random key, which is encrypted with the user passcode. When a user forgot the passcode, he may pay other people to brute-force the random key, without the risk of losing bitcoin. |
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