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1381  Economy / Reputation / Re: cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers on: December 19, 2018, 08:04:42 AM

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1382  Other / Meta / Re: [HELP] Recovering stolen account: signed message on: December 18, 2018, 11:52:28 PM
If you think your laptop being stolen is related to your bitcoin account being hacked that could really do a lot to help you narrow down who is the laptop thief.

It might be someone who went after your computer because they know what is on your computer, not just to steal a random computer.
Who knows your computer is valuable for its contents and would be interested in those contents?

I can't imagine someone stealing my computer and knowing that a bitcointalk account is worth doing anything with.
1383  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The Revolution in France & Europe on: December 18, 2018, 10:18:53 PM
Don't understand why it would be in anyone's interest to aid immigration of unemployable people in some country?

Good question! Let me explain..

Lets say we have a population of people that value western culture, they believe in personal liberty, national sovereignty, democracy and are productive enough to make it in the economy.

Now lets say you are a power hungry wannabe communist dictator of the country, or even higher, someone that want's to rule over this country and many others.

The citizens of this country believe in democracy but it's going to be extremely hard to get these people to vote away their rights and freedoms. They make it on their own in the economy so they don't value "free" stuff from the government..

Now what do you do? You propagandize them into letting in horde upon horde of immigrants and to give the immigrants free shit, or you are RACIST!

You get tons of them in so now you have a shit ton of voters that don't give much a fuck about France (or whatever country), they like their free shit and will vote for more free shit at every chance. They will vote away the rights of the people, the prosperity of the economy, and whatever other western morals for more free shit every time.

Congradulations! If you get enough of them now you have a big enough voting block to vote in anything you want as long as it comes with just a little more free shit for them!

But this hurts the economy... Good!
The poorer you can make the people the more likely you can get them to vote for free shit and the weaker they are the easier it is to take them over..

It is happening all across Europe with the immigrants and in the USA with the mexicans.
More votes for the left.

Climate change & CO2?
They are just trying to gt you to spend unnecessary money and make you poorer/weaker. Take your money and give it to others outside your country in the name of the CO2 myth.
Make you USE less energy - makes you poorer and less productive, weaker.

You can also propagandize degeneracy like transsexualism and all sorts of degenerate sexual shit - Why?
Because you are weakening the morals of the people!
Every bit of morality you can get them to throw away the easier it gets to get them to throw more away and take them over.

Once you get the population poor and week, you destroy their morals and culture, you can get them to agree to almost anything with the promise of free shit and TAKE THEM OVER.
Divide and conquer!

The entire western world IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOUR EYES!! PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER AND CONNECT THE DOTS!
Soon they will own all of you if you don't wake up and fight it!

Funny you say this because the president increased the minimum wage up to 100 with no cost for companies, so yes it is possible.

How then? Who is paying for it?
Someone is paying for it.. Out of your taxes or in debt in your name, someone is paying for it. Their is no magic free anything..



We can't be blamed for people with a low education level. We go to the same free school, have the same teacher and same pen to write so we are all equal if somebody decides to fuck up his education nothing we can do. if they prefer to smoke joints on the city benches, there's nothing we can do about it.

Immigrants jobs don't exist, immigrants can't work in France, and nobody is really interested to hire someone not speaking the local language and  who lives in huts similar to garbage cans


We can't be blamed for people with a low education level. We go to the same free school, have the same teacher and same pen to write so we are all equal if somebody decides to fuck up his education nothing we can do. if they prefer to smoke joints on the city benches, there's nothing we can do about it.

You definately are not to blame and shouldn't have to foot the bill either, but you are missing a critical part of the equation..

"we are all equal" - No you are not..
Everyone is not equally intelligent. Many people are just incapable of accomplishing the same education and understanding as others.
You need to take the IQ red pill..



They try to make you think that it is just a matter of opportunity and if you bring all these people in they will be doctors if they could just get access to education. NOPE
Much of them will NEVER have the intelligence it takes to compete and provide for themselves in your economy, will be more prone to violence, and vote for free stuff every chance they get for generations.

It is not their fault or your fault, but the truth.
You are lowering the IQ of your country hurting your future prosperity, but it's very good for everyone wanting to take you over..


Just for fun, I would like to point out we are the only country in the world to have a tax of taxes. Does it make sense?
No, what do you mean?


From the previous protests the arrests were so marginal, and people who were arrested are people who are not interested to protest, they are just interested to burn the street, destroy the shop to steal inside, and so on, they are not considered as a part of the protest.
Yeah I can understand not counting them..
1384  Economy / Reputation / Re: cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers on: December 18, 2018, 08:52:29 PM
What examples can you show of well written posts that you profoundly disagreed with, and you gave merits to?
Quickseller's post about Kavanaugh for example. A few other posts in P&S as well, just can't find links quickly.
You are right. I was too narrow in the way I said it because it does happen on occasion but I still believe it is not the norm.
I also need to work on not saying "you" so much in my posts or addressing a certain other poster like that because I certainly don't mean/want to put a specific person on the spot like that, usually..

I should have said something more like - "How many merited posts do you all see merited for quality of writing and effort despite the sender profoundly disagreeing with the message of the post they merited?"

I think it is natural for us to use merit as a "+1", or a "Yeah, what he said." to show our support for a well placed message that we want to back up as an endorsement.
Or even something funny but low effort, just whatever we enjoy.

Try sarcasm, that's the real money Merit maker Cheesy
It's very true and natural for us to do and I don't think it is wrong to do so, but I can see why someone from another perspective who thinks it's not so funny would feel butthurt seeing a low effort post get merited.

User eddie13 - (0.4973 Merit per new post)
Hey, that's pretty good but look at this one..
  181. eddie13 earned 191 50 Merit from outside the Top 200 Merit Receivers
   181. eddie13 earned 191 27 Merit from outside the Top 500 Merit Receivers
My stats there are abysmal! (If the ratio means something bad like some perspectives seem to think.)

If you're not a Merit source yet, I think you should apply!
I might some day..
1385  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Crypto exchanges comparison [trade fee + listing fee + age + mobile app + more!] on: December 18, 2018, 05:41:45 AM
I like these guys so here..

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Holler at the devs and owners in the trollbox if you have Qs..
1386  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The Revolution in France & Europe on: December 18, 2018, 03:52:07 AM
Let's get a few things straight :

- French government doesn't give a fuck about the environment. They tried to use climate change as an excuse to raise taxes on diesel oil(supposedly worse than regular gas or batteries). Only a small % of those taxes are meant to go into the environment budget. Even our former Minister in charge of Ecology gave up and resigned because he felt helpless.
-Those taxes are raising in order to reduce the state debt, nothing else.


I'm not sure..
Even though they stand to increase their income it also increases their POWER.
I think it directly has to do with the good old communist takeover, one world government, ultimate authoritarian, NWO type of thing. Weaken the west so you can more easily take it over. No joke.

If they were so concerned about reducing the debt they would spend/waste less money virtue signaling with net negative immigrants and "clean" energy.
Reducing energy consumption weakens you, making it more expensive, taxing you more in the name of it weakens you. Install a divided population weakens you.
Weakens your collective power to will forward the freedom that made the west great and sovereignty in favor of free shit and a safety net in exchange for control.

1387  Economy / Reputation / Re: cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers on: December 18, 2018, 03:23:39 AM
merits are just for good posts that you agree with
theymos said that's not what it's for and we must obey theymos, right?
Yes, but it is just human nature. Like greed..
People are giving merit to good messages in their opinion, not just to effort put into posts.
Theymos gave me merits for posting a meme..

What examples can you show of well written posts that you profoundly disagreed with, and you gave merits to?

IIRC Theymos said something like just decent posts deserve merit, basically anything not a shitpost, that they didn't have to be anything particularly elaborate or profound..
But I can't find it, maybe that is just the message that I took from him.
I did find..

I considered giving merit proportional to activity, but I decided not to because doing so would probably give far more undeserved merit than deserved merit in total. But undoubtedly some people got screwed by this, and if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
I have not seen this done once.

If people are making good posts but are still struggling to get merit, then that's a problem with the merit system
How good is good according to who?

If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).
Yeah let's not have that..

I'll see how things are in a month or two and think about it. Basically, the "ideal new user" should be able to easily and without any particular "merit farming" be able to far exceed the merit requirements; for them, activity should be the limiting factor. If this is not achievable, then I absolutely will make tweaks until that goal is reached. But it's too early to say at this point.
What is the "ideal new user"?
Does he mean Nulllius or just your average joe newb interested in learning cryptocurrency?

It is said that........
Merits are not scarce.
Over and over again and the truth of that is what backed me off busting sources asses a long time ago because it's true..

You sources are conservative with your merits, giving just enough that it is working while making high rank much harder to achieve and more elite. You are just doing what you think is right.
You aren't giving 10 merits to posts you pick instead of 1 because you must thing that is too many.. You think 1 is enough and they should be more scarce than giving out 10s all the time. You are keeping high rank elite. Whatever..
You 2 (first 2) deserve a higher rank than the old legendary, and some deserve higher than you, so maybe it should be more elite.

Sources shouldn't be pressured into giving more than they think is right. If Theymos wants more, then he needs more sources.
Some people feel that way. I'm in the middle and can feel for both sides.
1388  Economy / Reputation / Re: cryptohunter's problem with the top 200 merit receivers on: December 18, 2018, 02:01:35 AM
He is half right and you all know it..

Look at the first 2 posters in this thread. Over 1k merits each wasted if you are of the mindset that merits are for ranking up. But if you believe that merits are just for "good posts" then hell yes these first 2 posters deserve them because they make a ton of great posts. They are well established and experienced members therefore are very capable of making a lot of good posts because they know how things work around here.

Then you look at the proteges of these well established members (police in training) and they get tons of merits because they are in the "circle jerk"..
But they make very good posts according to them, in line with them, so if merits are just for good posts that you agree with then it is rightful. Their posts are also highly visible to them.

I have seen expressed a few times that the merit system is good for holding lower ranks down and keeping legedary status elite. Basically to turn legendary status into a much higher achievement than it has been previously. I can understand this view too because under the old system legendary wasn't as elite as some deserved and their should have been another rank above legendary created for the eliter.

It's 6 of one or a half dozen of another depending on your viewpoint.

Take me for example.
I am going to have 1030 activity for legendary soon but nowhere near enough merits even though I am a damn good poster.
Why? Because I don't make thousands of posts like some people do and legendary truly is a more elite rank to achieve than it used to be. That's fine..
My views are also not completely in line with those mostly in control and I like to bust balls when people get too authoritarian and/or big egos.
I speak out more than I should if I was just trying to achieve whatever high rank/respect/trust/power.  (like this)

You can't tell me that good posters merits are keeping up with their activity. It just is not the case. Much less just decent posters.
Should it be the case? It's just opinion. In my opinion NO, legendary status should become harder to achieve than just the activity requirement but how much? It is up to everyone's opinion separately so it is mostly up to whatever the established members feel is right.

It's a numbers game.
The more posts you make, the more visible, the more inline with the views of those that have merits to give, the more merits you get.
I can put a lot of effort into a post and get no merits, then I say something short, sweet, and funny and get a bunch. But it seems the more posts you make the better chances you get.
Much younger accounts than me get way more merits because they make thousands of posts, 10X as many as I do, and are visible and agreeable to the right people.

Cryptohunter makes a LOT of posts and a lot of them are very big long posts that took a lot of effort but are not inline with the views of those who have merit to give, so he gets few. Not that he needs them for any reason anyway.

It just is what it is. If I was just out to get merits I'd make tons and tons of posts that most sources would agree with, but I don't because I don't care that much to not just chill and be me.

If you just think everyone that disagrees with you over merit distribution is wrong then you should take into account their perspective on the situation and why they might feel that way.
I think a lot of posters that make good posts but are interested in other, non-political, topics have genuine grievances if they think their merit should keep up with activity. But should merit keep up with activity if you are just a good poster? It is just opinion and mine is no not really, high ranks should be harder to achieve than they used to be.  

I have mostly given up on saving my smerits for people that need to rank up and have been giving more to posts that I think are good and make good posts that I agree with..
I'm baaaadd too.. (though I did rank up some guy just now)

Just consider that everyone doesn't come from the same perspective as you and doesn't have the same opinions all the time and that doesn't mean they are wrong because their really is no factual right. This isn't math..
1389  Other / Serious discussion / Re: The Revolution in France & Europe on: December 17, 2018, 08:53:29 PM
Also, he didn't understand correctly what's going on in France, it's not only about Oil taxes...

The MSM is just pinning it on the gas tax so they have an excuse and don't have to mention the real reasons for the protests. It is much more convienent for them to say it is about the fuel tax than to have to say it is about them being sick of paying so much taxes in general to support oodles of immigrants and the nonsense virtue signaling war against CO2 while they can barely get by themselves.

It's about the daily life of people, they are tired to work full time since years and are not able to save $20 at the end of the month. Prices are outrageous but minimum wage doesn't follow, Frenches are just asking to get a decent life, especially since they have a job, having enough food and go to holidays once a year.

You think raising the minimum wage is the answer?
Maybe one day France will wake up and realize that LESS government is the answer, not more.

If you raise the minimum wage you will just drive more companies/investments out of your country and it will be harder for your immigrants to find ANY job to pull some of their own weight, and it will be harder for all of you to find any job because it will be harder to companies to afford to hire any of you.

You take in so many people that are illiterate in their native languages, much less in French, with little to no education at all.
How high of wages are they worthy of? How much do you want to force any company to pay them for what value they can bring?

If companies DON'T hire them then they will be "racist", so they will, and they will get little value from them while being forced to pay them a high wage..
No one is going to invest in that and these companies are going to flee for regulatory arbitrage.

Go ahead and raise the minimum wage. You do realize that if taxes are for example 50% then your "raise" you will only get 50% of whatever the raise is, and just pay MORE taxes.

Do you want your raise so you can pay more in taxes or are you sick of the high taxes and all the frivolous crap they spend your tax money on?

It's fake, not +1900 persons have been arrested. 150 last Saturday, 900 2 weeks ago, we are far from the 2000 he is talking about.

https://www.france24.com/en/20181209-over-1700-arrested-latest-yellow-vest-protests-france

A few of these say 1,700 a week ago "More than 1,700 people were arrested across France during the latest "yellow vest" protests"..
What about arrests that were from previous "not the latest" yellow vests protests?
Do you think they are accounting for all the arrests in all of the small towns and other cities across the nation?
Do you think it is in the MSMs best interest to state the highest number they can count?

Even just your numbers are over 1,000, which is a lot still....
But the entire thing is "Fake" and you completely discredit one of the greatest philosophers of our time over a slight difference in statistics?
Why does the exact number matter so much and how would you propose to come to an official exact number anyway?

Nah..
Close enough.. A lot is a lot..
1390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Interesting reads on future of Bitcoin price on: December 17, 2018, 08:30:52 PM

Thanks for that! I just pent an hour or so going through it.
It was a very good analysis from an instution's point of view and it shows that crypto advancement is trucking along as usual. Despite the fall in the price the ecosystem continues.

The only thing I really didn't like about it is that they conflate the potential harm of POW in terms of CO2 which to me is just BS propaganda.
I surely believe that POW can contribute to more real pollution, such as smog and toxins released into the environment from spills and chemical waste dumping, but CO2 is neither of these and is of no concern.
1391  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 04:15:49 AM
Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind.

Bullshit.
We need all of even the craziest theories to keep the mainstream in check. If those in power could just label anything they want a "conspiracy theory" then they could silence any dissenting opinion they wanted.

Limitation of speech is the worst enemy of mankind.

I would have battled alongside this OP if he had a case..

Bitcointalk is not not a government entity and can control the content anyway that it sees fit. If I submitted a "letter to the editor," to a newspaper and they failed to publish it, are they infringing on my free speech? If I submitted a book to a publisher and got a rejection letter, would my free speech rights be infringed? I don't think so.


Hitler felt the same way.

That is a slippery slope you're on.



"Freedom of the press" also involves the right of the press to refuse to publish anything. Otherwise, the government can insist that they publish propaganda, or else...

Ewww you are defending censorship, gross...

Yes Theymos can censor anything he wants because this is his private property and by US law he can do about anything he wants on his private property (except all of the freedoms the US gov takes away from you even on your private property). Just because it is legal doesn't mean it's right and certainly doesn't mean it is parallel with Satoshi's Bitcoin.

"It's fine that the forum is censoring anything negative about Bitcoin, it's their right" - Really?

I think Theymos strives to set a better example for freedom than just what the US law provides.
The US law is one of the best currently enforced, sure, but it is still a far cry from ideal (depending on who you ask).

Would your really be alright with moderators censoring any and all negative facts and opinions about Bitcoin?
I'd be gone..
But it doesn't, so I'm here, and OP is just full of shit / trolling..

Deleting it would be proof, so they just hid it in meta,
ie: plausible deniability  
Trolling  Roll Eyes

Anyway, I was more responding to the comment "Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind." in general than to the OP.

Otherwise, the government can insist that they publish propaganda
What government? The US government?
You think they don't?
1392  Other / Meta / Re: make fun of plagiarisers that act dumb on: December 17, 2018, 03:41:51 AM
Poverty is the root reason for this. Not all users here born with silver spoon on their mouth with less opportunity even they work hard.

I saw something on youtube the other day that made me think of the shitposters and scammers on this forum..

https://youtu.be/axYKPbr9_MA

The doctor tells him to get a mask and wear gloves. The stupid fuck just comes up with some excuse he can't wear gloves..
Yeah working in gloves sucks but you get used to it and learn it. I know..
Yeah wearing a gas mask and a tyvek suit sucks but you learn to deal with it. I know..
I have 3 chemical masks in my collection now and wear them often on my personal time while I'm cutting/grinding/chemicaling in enclosed areas.

They don't even give a shit enough to save themselves much less their environment.
Leave it up to them and this forum will look just like their rivers.
1393  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 03:30:14 AM
Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind.

Bullshit.
We need all of even the craziest theories to keep the mainstream in check. If those in power could just label anything they want a "conspiracy theory" then they could silence any dissenting opinion they wanted.

Limitation of speech is the worst enemy of mankind.

I would have battled alongside this OP if he had a case..
1394  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 01:34:20 AM
they censor anything they don't want to be known.
Show me some examples?

Which is what I did , before you so rudely interrupted.   Kiss

Well this thread isn't deleted yet. Still waiting for my evidence..
1395  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 16, 2018, 11:34:10 PM
snip

Was this in the altcoin section or Bitcoin discussion?
It could rightfully be deleted if it wasn't under the altcoins section.

I don't get the connection for that information being negative or bad for Bitcoin either. Vulnerabilities in POS coins if anything are a positive for BTC.
1396  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 16, 2018, 11:13:44 PM
every negative post on this forum was deleted or poster banned
I don't believe you show me some evidence.

they censor anything they don't want to be known.
Show me some examples?
Make one (a thread) and PM me the thread link so I can watch and see if it disappears..

First rule of bitcoin, never mention 'Jack Ma' the owner of BITCOIN COMMUNITY, and head of Communist Party China. Never mentions the ties of Alibaba & Amazon, and that Amazon hosts this forum, but Alibaba owns BITCOIN +90% by virtue of owning BITMAIN and a majority of chinese mining pools +90%
So now that you mentioned it this thread should get deleted no?
Move this to meta..
1397  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] CLOUDBET & KROGOTH'S LOADED DENARIUM COIN RAFFLE#6 on: December 16, 2018, 09:05:29 PM
13 - eddie13
1398  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Idea Discussion - Bitcoin Public Relations BPR Fork - Funding BTC Advancement on: December 16, 2018, 06:08:37 PM
Bump
1399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Open Letter to BCT community on: December 16, 2018, 05:23:12 AM
You are right that the scams have pushed out the good projects, or have just made the good projects look like just another scam. They make all crypto look like a scam to most people.

But what do you propose to do about it?
People here are busting scams left and right but their are just too many and many of them are undetectable until it's too late. 
1400  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Denarium Christmas Competition & Giveaway! on: December 14, 2018, 09:07:39 PM
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