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2181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [FNX] Fenixcoin on: March 24, 2017, 07:53:29 PM
LINK BROKEN TO DOWNLOAD THE WALLET WINDOWS

You really just blindly download whatever new wallet you see?
How many times have you been hacked?
2182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [FNX] Fenixcoin on: March 24, 2017, 07:49:00 PM
40% premine?
lolz
2183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SHOCKING: BU chief scientist: "We need Bitcoin's inflation rate to be non-zero" on: March 24, 2017, 07:30:28 PM
Peter R charlatan seems more likely to be a government shill as we've speculated the first time he showed up on a Bitcoin conference. He looked phony from day.

BTU recap:
1) Emergent consensus -> more power to the miners -> more centralization.
2) President of BTU & BTU federation.
3) Inflation non-zero, a.k.a. remove the 21 million limit.

Whoever doesn't see something *seriously* wrong here, especially in point 3, you need to get a 'reality check'. If anything is going to kill Bitcoin (from this list), then it is most certainly point 3.

Yeah, that does it for me..
I could never in a million years support that point 3..
No way..
2184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 24, 2017, 06:55:13 PM
I think that everyone sitting here calling Ver all sorts of names is quite disrespectful, quite the same as a bunch of libtards running around calling Trump a racist child molester, have some respect...

As far as signing an address with over 40k BTC, well, if I had that much BTC I highly doubt I would have it stored that centralized in a single address. I would probably have it distributed in a bunch of cold addresses containing 100-1000 BTC each..

I think it would be nice for Ver to sign a staked address of some sort with acceptance of the deal proving it's him and making it official, but what reason do any of you really have to doubt that it is Ver himself and not an impostor?

I opined that I don't think Ver will take the deal because I don't think it's a good deal for him, I think it is likely he could do better on the open market, but this deal being done by Ver and Loaded, plus anyone else that wants to join, is very good for Bitcoion ad BU..
If this amount of BTC/BTU can be swapped off market that is a whole lot less of each that will get dumped after the split helping both retain more value after the fact which is good for me because I'll probably just sit on my private keys for a while and see what happens, so this many coins out of the hands of dumpers is very good for my strategy..

Here's a lot of respect to both Loaded and Ver for their displays of conviction..
If I was Ver I might leave you all hanging on a string too, let the haters hate and just make me more famous, tease em for a bit..

Myself I don't think I personally stand with either BU or Segwit, I think they both have their merits and it's a shame they can't come together and implement both IMO..
I don't really want to see big blocks but no new tech, or new tech and not bigger blocks, I would much rather see bigger blocks without a hardcoded limit AND new tech..
I think a hardcoded blocksize limit is far from ideal as it pretty much guarantees another fight over a fork sometime in the future when we again need to scale..
LN, great, but I don't see that being very good for the average user like me..

It is what it is, I just hope you all pull your heads out of your asses before you destroy this grand experiment..
2185  Economy / Collectibles / Re: ▂▃▅▆▇█▓▒░►WTS Graded Loaded Physical BTC Plus Sweeteners◄░▒▓█▇▆▅▃▂ on: March 22, 2017, 11:54:31 PM

bump

price drop .335
2186  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
As much as people hate on BTU, there's a risk of the chain surviving. Exchanging your coins for one chain is a high risk move that could leave you penniless.

Their may be a correlation between people that own crypto and are willing to take risks..
Maybe because investing in any of this could leave you penniless..

Like the OP and Ver, sitting on that much BTC, that's a massive risk right there by itself..
I think us bitcoiners are risk takin dudes in general..
2187  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lot's of Casascius for sale, what's going on? on: March 21, 2017, 09:03:51 PM
What I am seeing is that with the price of BTC going up, these coins relative value against BTC is going down because people are pricing the collectors value of these coins in dirty fiat rather than BTC..

So my casascius .5 is only worth like .7-.75 BTC (if that)  now rather than the .8 I paid for it because the additional value in fiat has remained almost the same but BTC being worth more I'm taking a haircut on my invested amount of BTC..

I did not expect the value of these things to be so closely tied to fiat rather than BTC and am a bit disappointed..

Everyone is rushing to dump their coins while they can still get the most BTC out of them, especially when it looked like BTC was going to moon.. So, the market is getting flooded with sellers likely further decreasing even the collector value in fiat related terms also..

They took a big hit just before china hit 8888.. "Here comes $10k better dump these coins"..
2188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 21, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
This may not matter anyway, I'm having trouble verifying the signature.
So likely troll fake.





Addy holds aprox 40k BTC..
2189  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Buying ~40 BTC @ Bitfinex +0% [CASH ONLY] on: March 21, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
I think you would if your offer involved some profit for him, like above the current rate..
I'm not so sure anyone holding 40BTC would want to just sell like that and if they did they would probably choose a better way of doing it, unless they have a reason to need a cash deal..
2190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 21, 2017, 06:26:09 PM
I bet he won't take it.. Some sportsbetting place should put odds on it..
2191  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
Also, YOU GUYS are the ones who came in and suddenly decided that Bitcoin should only be a settlement layer, and not the peer2peer cash electronic payments system that it was designed to be by Satoshi.

If you want to deviate from Satoshi's original vision with this nonsense, then Core should go and create their own altcoin instead of attempting a hostile takeover, enforcing an artificial blocksize limit and then FORCING people onto THEIR off-chain solutions. This is ethically and morally wrong, and so is their campaign of censorship they have engaged in to justify this.

THIS!!

To me it's plain to see that Satoshi had dreams of liberty rather than profits, evident by him not dumping his coins..

It seems all most people really care about is profits..
2192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 08:07:57 PM
Anyhow, seems like you want to get in the weeds, again for no real purpose except trying to prescribe what bitcoin ought to be rather than figure out how to use bitcoin for what it is.

That's right, except I am perfectly capable of using it for what it is, I just want it to be a world killer rather than just some obscure thing..
I want Bitcoin to make governments think twice before they oppress their people, not just remain irreverent in the grand scheme..

The price of Bitcoin is just a side effect, I don't much care about profits, I want a tool of liberty for the people in the world that need it..
2193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
What kind of transaction are you trying to accomplish that is not reasonable?  Are others trying to accomplish those kinds of unreasonable transactions, too?  They can use some other means, or is bitcoin the only thing that will work for them?  Why does bitcoin need to serve that purpose at this time? 

How about small signature campaign payments? Are they spam?
What about all the gamblers betting small amounts? Are they spam?

What about RAREPEPE? If you don't know, the amazing new counterparty implementation trading rare/scarce assets on the bitcoin blockchain?
Is that spam? Cost for it has gotten outrageous and damn near stopped it dead..

You are pretty much saying that small people should not be using Bitcoin and use some altcoin instead?
2194  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Poloniex: Suspending my withdrawals until Level 2 verification. on: March 19, 2017, 07:06:37 PM
TUXexchange, being legally incorporated in Canada, and dealing with no fiat, does not require any sort of ID verification and imposes absolutely no limits 100% legally due to not being any sort of "money" transmitter..

Use a VPS or TOR, whatever you want, doesn't mater, no ID-No limits, 100% legal and legit 1st world cryptocurrency exchange with non-anon owners legally accountability under Canadian law..

2195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 06:35:45 PM

Can you even understand your own fallacies in your points?  you assume everyone wants to use BTC, and they do not.  You also assume that BTC will not be able to adapt if more people want to use it, which BTC growth seems to be ongoing, no? and there continues to be adaptations, no?  lots of upwards price pressures, too, no?

The last I checked fees and transaction times continue to be very reasonable in BTClandia, and security for BTC is quite great.  

Also, bitcoin offers one of the greatest things ever (and no other crypto or non crypto offers what BTC offers), that is decentralized secure immutable transaction and storage of value.  

You got anything else offering what bitcoin offers?  Hello?  Name one, any?  Go ahead with some actual substance, besides whining about various pie in the sky "what could be" bullshit.  I am waiting.  go ahead.  What offers what bitcoin offers?  Bitcoin is not broken, as you and some of the other nutter shills seem to want to argue.

Obviously more people want to use BTC than it can handle, see the mempool backlog..
BTC is able to adopt to handle more transactions but you don't want it to..
BTC growth has now stopped in its tracks becauase it is at its limit of capability..
Fees and transation times being "reasonable" is in the eye of the beholder.. If you are sending 5,000 BTC I'm sure you don't mind paying a $5 fee..

their are hundreds of other cryptos that offer the same thing BTC does in different variations, BTC just has the network effect security, which it is just about to lose..
How many BTC clones are their? Bunch..

You are losing your precious upward price pressure too..
2196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 06:27:25 PM
BS, if everyone wanted to use BTC they simply could not because bitcoin is incapable of processing all of their transactions no matter what they pay in fees..
2mb blocks right now would buy time until better solutions become available, wither that be LN or something yet unheard of.. Right now it's stagnant and people that want to use bitcoin cannot because it just will not process that many transactions..

Sure they can wait forever for confirms while the line cutters jump infront of them, but that is not the way BTC was intended to be..

Every transaction does not need to be censorship-proof as long as the option exists.

Expecting to include "everyone's" transaction in a decentralized ledger where full nodes have to keep a history of every transaction since the genesis block is simply ridiculous. It would destroy the very properties that gives Bitcoin it's value.

You are pretty much saying the concept of Bitcoin is ridiculous..

Including "everyone's" transaction in a decentralized ledger where full nodes have to keep a history of every transaction since the genesis block is the very properties that give Bitcoin it's value. Read the whitepaper..

People want to use Bitcoin because it is censorship-proof, wether they NEED that is a different story..

What % of transactions currently being processed in Bitcoin Absolutely Need to be censorship-proof? I bet less than 0.1% of them, they just use it because they want to, not because they have to..

Right now, people want to use Bitcoin and they cannot in a reasonable way..

For years and years we have been wanting greater adoption, working for greater adoption, spreading the word and understanding in search of greater adoption..
Now we have greater adoption and now, "oops, we didn't want greater adoption afterall, gotcha suckers.."

2197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 06:18:21 PM
Higher fees do not let bitcoin process more transactions, they just let greedy people cut in line ahead of everyone else..
You are just buying a ticket closer to the front of the line at the expense of everyone else..

You literally have it completely backwards.

People who pay higher fees are actually adding more to the security of the network in exchange for receiving faster service.

The greedy ones are those who rely on the block subsidies to take care of everything for them.

Getting what you pay for... apparently a foreign concept to some.

So paying higher fees make bitcoin process more transactions per block? Explain that..
You can't, because it is false..

Yeah, you get to cut in line if you pay more, that is being greedy with blockspace and time..

Paying higher fees do not make the network more secure over a small amount to mitigate spam attacks..
The way you are putting it even spam attacks make bitcoin more secure if they pay enough for them..
2198  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 06:14:43 PM
Segwit First!


^screw seqwit+ screw btu ... lets just increase to 2mb and get on up to $2000 ladies?  Kiss

Are you retarded?

What is the justification to move up to 2mb?

If there is no justification, besides merely "sounding like a good idea", then there should be no need to presume that 2mb actually resolves anything - besides caving into some whiners and maybe even bringing some disadvantages.
 

Anyhow, we should not be advocating to do things just because it "sounds nice"

How about, so the amount of people that want to use Bitcoin can actually use bitcoin..
That sounds like a very good reason.. Because right now, they can't..

How about another made up argument coming from nonsense.


Anyone can get into bitcoin, and there are various options for them.  

Some locations have more options than others, but these various infrastructure matters are evolving.

Moving to a 2mb block limit size is not going to resolve various onboarding and/or use considerations in the short term.  There is a lot that could be built to help in terms of onboarding and improving transaction options, including the adoption of segwit in a plan forward would help in these kinds of onboarding and use developments.


BS, if everyone wanted to use BTC they simply could not because bitcoin is incapable of processing all of their transactions no matter what they pay in fees..
2mb blocks right now would buy time until better solutions become available, wither that be LN or something yet unheard of.. Right now it's stagnant and people that want to use bitcoin cannot because it just will not process that many transactions..

Sure they can wait forever for confirms while the line cutters jump infront of them, but that is not the way BTC was intended to be..
2199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 06:10:23 PM
Segwit First!


^screw seqwit+ screw btu ... lets just increase to 2mb and get on up to $2000 ladies?  Kiss

Are you retarded?

What is the justification to move up to 2mb?

If there is no justification, besides merely "sounding like a good idea", then there should be no need to presume that 2mb actually resolves anything - besides caving into some whiners and maybe even bringing some disadvantages.
 

Anyhow, we should not be advocating to do things just because it "sounds nice"

How about, so the amount of people that want to use Bitcoin can actually use bitcoin..
That sounds like a very good reason.. Because right now, they can't..

Median confirmation time (with fee) is in the 10 to 20 minutes range. The fee is 1-2 dollars. The rest of the transactions that you see are spam (-ish. )It's just that you can't buy coffee with it, but then, why should you if the underlying technology (the computers on which bitcoin runs) does not currently allow you to?

Faith and patience my friend. It is predicted that by 2020 or so, SSD disks will have approached the cost of HDDs. I suppose that would be a good time to increase the block size.


Higher fees do not let bitcoin process more transactions, they just let greedy people cut in line ahead of everyone else..
You are just buying a ticket closer to the front of the line at the expense of everyone else..
2200  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 19, 2017, 05:41:37 PM
Segwit First!


^screw seqwit+ screw btu ... lets just increase to 2mb and get on up to $2000 ladies?  Kiss

Are you retarded?

What is the justification to move up to 2mb?

If there is no justification, besides merely "sounding like a good idea", then there should be no need to presume that 2mb actually resolves anything - besides caving into some whiners and maybe even bringing some disadvantages.
 

Anyhow, we should not be advocating to do things just because it "sounds nice"

How about, so the amount of people that want to use Bitcoin can actually use bitcoin..
That sounds like a very good reason.. Because right now, they can't..
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