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721  Economy / Lending / Re: I want to borrow 100 BSV on: December 20, 2019, 06:07:57 AM
That's exactly what I was thinking. But then, what he should do is use his BTC to leverage a BSV position in an exchange. Way cheaper and simpler...
As an American citizen like me, what market would you use right now to short BSV?
It's not all that easy..

"master plan" of trying to leave behind the collateral and stiff the deal in the improbable case that BSV happens to surge (10%+). 
Lender was betting in therms of BTC so keeps the collateral and the lender wins even if the borrower also wins and scams at the same time?
Redtags for scamming and not returning the BSV which is now worth more than the BTC collateral? Broken contract..


So that's why 110% collateral is inaceptable in this case.
I'm not exactly expecting BSV to surge, it would basically be instantaneous liquidation considering the buffer zone..
722  Economy / Lending / Re: I want to borrow 100 BSV on: December 20, 2019, 05:27:30 AM
What do you want the BSV for if it is not too much to ask?

I think he wants to get short on BSV..

Borrow
Sell
Price goes down
Buy back
Keep change
Repay loan
Profit

I've thought a bit about how to do this off-exchange myself..

But if he has to pay my fees and exchange rates both ways that fluctuate with the market it makes his profit moot against the changing market, so it wont work with my offered structure...
Unless it dropped within the collateral liquidation point and came back up, and he made the perfect trade in it, then maybe we could both profit..
I should liquidate at around 130% @ 150% collateral to guarantee my profit on the deal..

If he thinks he can make the trade that's fine.. I'll raise his liquidation to 175% if he can give me 200% collateral Wink

Maybe he is thinking about setting himself up with a no-loss situation at the possible expense of an inexperienced lender (scam), but collateral lending is the business of setting up a no loss situation for yourself..

I didn't really research him.. How smart does he seem?

He could also just be a troll out to prove the point that BSV isn't woth A Flying Fuck Hellfish..
723  Economy / Lending / Re: I want to borrow 100 BSV on: December 20, 2019, 04:39:51 AM
I can probably loan you BSV but you are going to pay exchange rates on my end both ways + 5% after my fees, and 150% collateral subject to liquidation if/when liquidity gets slim..
lmk
724  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: December 20, 2019, 04:30:02 AM
Loan Amount: 0.012 BTC
Loan Purpose: Bills payments
Loan Repay Amount: 0.014 BTC
Loan Repay Date: 06 December 2019 or earlier
Type of Collateral: No
Escrow profile Link: No
Bitcoin Address: 1JWq1rmPVBfuYXpdrCUDir4Ytv84jwxLB2



Accepted, BTC sent.
Trx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/69fdbd876f2f63d6441ad9e71382af952ec7eeddee00e3373c18a1f91f901ed6
Repayment address: 37cxv3abvpRedkefoxiQS7HuDzoqogv2rS

Additional 0.0017 BTC requested as discussed via PM. Total payback changed to 0.016 BTC

Loan Amount: 0.0137 BTC (0.012 Received)
Loan Purpose: Bills payments
Loan Repay Amount: 0.016 BTC
Loan Repay Date: 06 December 2019 or earlier
Type of Collateral: No
Escrow profile Link: No
Bitcoin Address: 1JWq1rmPVBfuYXpdrCUDir4Ytv84jwxLB2

Loan extension requested and granted. 0.01712 BTC in total will be paid on 20th December.
Thank You Shasan

0.01523935 BTC paid. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37cxv3abvpRedkefoxiQS7HuDzoqogv2rS I need the extension to 29 of December. How much I need to pay you in total including penalties ?

Thank You Shasan.

0.012 loan for "bills payment" and late?

Be careful with this one shasan.. Their reputation is also going down the tubes right now if you didn't notice..

Wow suchmoon..
...
Take some diet pills (You really need them)
725  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: December 20, 2019, 04:21:26 AM
We who?
You have a blind mouse in your pocket?

Why do you do this?
726  Other / Politics & Society / Re: BREAKING: Trump Officially Becomes 3rd U.S. President to be Impeached on: December 20, 2019, 04:15:52 AM
trash countries
fukin leaf
727  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: December 20, 2019, 03:58:58 AM

Lies in bold..
728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2019, 03:51:39 AM

Are you actually stealing some of my future bitcoin addresses (and Bitserve's too?)

Well you could use them too, be he has the priv keys Smiley

there has gotta be some inability to reuse them too once you generate the addresses, right?  

Nah..
Everyone can still use these keypairs but you won't be the only one that can..

Makes me wonder if collisions are more likely for generated addys..
Prolly not by much enough to make a difference to lowly human technology..




Timestamp:


Could be a long bearish yet ahead, ....  but halving incoming..

<<<<<<<<<<< Notice the last ATH of $1,200 dwarfed...
Over and over and over

729  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 09:39:39 PM
This was fun!!

Good job hosseinimr93 however you found it exactly..
730  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 09:05:46 PM
nutildah?
731  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 08:11:46 PM

Bones didn't merit anyone in the recipes thread..
732  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 07:49:47 PM
Colonel Mustard in the Study with a Candlestick
733  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 07:29:30 PM
It sounds like you are playing the numbers game.
Yeah basically..

They didn't guess correctly but not for the reason you stated. "dead giveaway" is an expression: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dead_giveaway

Looks like I hit 2/3 somehow miraculously, bones is correct getting morvillz7z a merit (beat me by less than 1 minute), and the guess wasn't correct but not for the reason of board and topic? actmyname being the last incorrect part?

Does that statement count as a "clue" allowing another guess?
734  Other / Meta / Re: Trivia: 100000th merited post on: December 19, 2019, 06:46:31 PM
10/18=0.555 so a little less than half way back in the history of merits..

And judging by the slight declining trend of merits..
The time series plot (of full dataset) shows a spike on 16/9/2018.

I'd have to take a WAG that the 100,000th post merited happened around a year ago, or at the very least longer than the merit summaries pages keep track of them, therefore I have about zero chance of finding it..

I'll guess the 100kth merited post was made by actmyname, merited by bones261, and ironically in the meta board something to do with the topic of merits..
735  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 19, 2019, 05:54:49 PM
I must have missed this. Paul Vernon must still be around. He stole a bunch of my money when Cryptsy went down. Is there any chance that authorities will catch him?

nop. successfully complete his mission / bags of coin unloading in china (  bitcoin turn into cash Help off Coinbase , buy back Bitcoin in otc way with no track left behind ) its over now

How do you know it has anything to do with Coinbase? If funds were transferred through Coinbase addresses, they had to be done through a verified account and the track would have to be there.

He did cash a lot out through CB but he got away with it long enough to ... get away with it..
736  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does Mariana Web really exist? on: December 19, 2019, 05:22:56 AM

What makes news source reputable? Even largest news agencies and sites post a sensationalist bullshit written by someone who is not an expert on the subject. Ask me. I have been 15+ years in internet underground. I seen everything. Warez FTP sites with TBs of scene releases. Botnet IRC control channels with tens of thousands of active clients. Most famous clearnet hacking forums as well as forums in .onion Marketplaces in Tor and their administrative panels or databases with sales and messages. Also 95% of murderers on those marketplaces were fakes, who will ask for money and not deliver. There was one exception who used escrow and was verified as legit. But it was one legit from hundreds of scammers.

But I never seen neither Marianas web, red rooms, .closed domains or something other.

Do tell more..

The only things I have ever found interesting on the darknet was reading alphabay forums and some interesting sources of reading material like .pdf rare books..
No other .onion forums/chans I have ever found were worth a shit for anything..
737  Economy / Reputation / Re: More trust system abuse by Lauda on: December 18, 2019, 09:43:11 PM
I wouldn't worry about it too much TS..
Personal vendetta tags by lauda are just a badge of honor..
738  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 18, 2019, 09:30:47 PM
attempt to read, organize to understand
I have.. I have been following this topic of conversation from it's origination, since before it was even moved to this particular thread, and many previous semi-related topics.. I believe you will find that this topic originated there in the link (OG stealing from passthrough)..
But you know, I would not claim myself to be a foremost expert on blockchain investigation, so it is possible my understanding is faulty, no matter my personal efforts, though my efforts have been great, including the effort to make this post..

However..
philipma1957 is more trustworthy than me or any other user commenting here, according to me personally, and I also trust him to have among the highest level of blockchain expertise to decipher this evidence..  
I also don't see anyone here daring to accuse him of anything character or motive related, therefore I find it quite reasonable for me to accept his findings as highly accurate, logical, and neutral..

still it seems that og did not get the other 1400.  

A) no one has come to the plate and said they were not refunded.

B) no one has shown he got 2500 coins paid back.

C) pirate may have  misstated he fully paid Ognasty during statements quoted in the thread.
i looked and looked and look and i dont see this.

i see a partial payment which ognasty  paid in under an hour to investors .

if you can show me more then the three payments you showed which add to under 1200 btc

meaning ognasty was shorted around 1300 btc.

if you find the payments for that 1300,which i cant. you would have something.

What evidence we have here seems to show, with quite great magnitude of certainty IMO, that OG's pirate passthrough was not fully paid out by pirate..
This shows me that their is very little reason to believe that OG lied about being fully "reimbursed", or I would rather say "paid out" by Pirate..

so 144 coins.

did not he repeatedly state he invested coins .

he did. lots of posts show he said he put coins into this pirate club.

so now you need to prove those 144 coins belonged to whomever.

.......

so did he simply keep that as it was what he invested?

1. Their is no proof.. Only a dead end.. But many here seem to believe that proof is not required, contrary to my and philipma1957's opinion, which is what creates this great divide in the community, between those who require proof to come to a solid conclusion, and those who do not..
Our only choice is to either agree to disagree on the necessity of proof, or argue on forever.. I think I am in the "agree to disagree" camp, seeing as this will most likely just be left unsolved..
I don't see how this could be any more respectable on my part than that..

2. These coins being OG's share of the partial reimbursement and him rightfully keeping them is just as logical of a hypothesis as him "stealing" them, and IMO more likely due to OG's most excelent track record of handling great amounts of funds over many many years, if he even kept them at all..

OGNasty's word > pirate's word 100% IMO, and the fact that statements were made to the police or any government agents only makes them less credible, also IMO..


OG stole BCH - fact.  
What basis do you have for this claim? Link please?
The thread I linked at the top of this post clearly proves that he did not steal BHC, unless you are thinking of some other unrelated incident I am yet unaware of.. But I welcome any evidence you may be able to share..
739  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Ponzi.wtf, a self admitted ponzi scheme. on: December 18, 2019, 01:01:17 AM
a ponzi is a MLM schem
False..

"Ponzi schemes are based on fraudulent investment management services—basically, investors contribute money to the "portfolio manager" who promises them a high return, and then when those investors want their money back, they are paid out with the incoming funds contributed by later investors. The person organizing this type of fraud is in charge of controlling the entire operation"

"A pyramid scheme, on the other hand, is structured so that the initial schemer must recruit other investors who will continue to recruit other investors"

"a pyramid scheme differs from a multi-level marketing campaign, which offers legitimate products."
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/ponzi-vs-pyramid.asp

No products here so not MLM, no pyramid of recruiters so no pyramid scheme, no deception or fraud so not really even a "ponzi"..

I'm not sure if this can even be called a "ponzi" in the absence of any fraud..
Ponzi-like game?

All you need to find is one referral link that does not state it is a ponzi, and your argument is void.  :/
What is he going to do? Create a ref link to a fake website that doesn't say it's a ponzi?
Then the deceiver is the scammer..
740  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Ponzi.wtf, a self admitted ponzi scheme. on: December 18, 2019, 12:39:15 AM
This is not a product sale, so you can not apply that logic here.
Exactly, so your wiki article does not apply..
Can you apply any logic here other than just asserting your statements are true?

Ponzi Scheme is a Ponzi Scheme and a FRAUD even if you tell the truth about it.
A fraud even if the truth is honestly told eh? Including reviewable code run on a decently trusted blockchain?

"The basic premise of a Ponzi scheme is "to rob Peter to pay Paul".
But their is no peter to be robbed, only voluntary players..

I'm looking for a good logical reason that this is a scam or fraud..
Logic is the fun of it..
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