Hi technobit is marto74 a month I came hex8a1 and is a month that I'm struggling to get it working by asking multiple times for help to Martin Sirakov results the miner has problems fixed light remains lit red and more than 20 GH -60/s can not undermine when it works.I then asked to replace the plunger around two weeks ago, you answered me shipped new hex8a1 I asked the shipping tracking no object has arrived and even the traking shipping!!!!!!I lost a month managed to undermine having paid the 1350 € per order hardware in January now the same hardware is 800 € and I find myself with the HEX8A1 not working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it comes soon, I will test it and let you know. I am pretty sure it works fine since mine is a full miner that AMT tested.

I could take a really good video of it hashing, and also photos. Give it to the highest bidder. Bidding starts at $6,000.

I will get a full working AMT 1.2T in a day or two. I am thinking about reselling it for 6k worth of BTC. I am in North NJ and available for meetup. This would be a good deal being that they sell for 15k on ebay right now.

No i use my raspberry

Or take some urgent actions against AMT?
Yes it will be hard and probably it will not change your position at all and bring your money back, but it will change the situation for the feature.
And eventually Josh can go to jail in some point because that is what he deserves!
You have nothing to loose. It is your choice weather you will continue to act like victims or not!

Urgent actions such as? It would literally cost me more to retain a lawyer and bring a suit against AMT. That would be to get my funds back maybe a year from now. If they paid the collection agency I'd likely have to retain to get the money from them. Then of course the they will take their cut.

Depending on how I reinvest my bitcoins towards more power for mining, plus the anticipated increase in the price of bitcoin there is a very good chance I will make my investment back, if not profit. Especially because I've confirmed with FedEx that my miner has already shipped and will be here today or tomorrow.

 I ordered when the website said my miner would ship by the 31st of  March so my miner is about 10 days late, or roughly one increase in difficulty. Does it suck yes. But unlike people who ordered for BFL I'll have my miner thursday.

The only other better situation I could be in would be if I ordered from cointerra when I first had my money and that would have been an april delivery anyway, and they haven't even hit their stated hash rates or power consumption either.

I certainly didn't pick the winning horse, which would have been holding my money then buying bitcoin when it hit this low price, or the placing horse, cointerra just based on their getting product to market quicker, but with a 10 day delay I picked the showing horse.

I wouldn't call that victimization. At least not in my case, but there are a lot of other people who bought from AMT under different circumstances than myself and were strung along for months.

Also aside from the investing, monetarily, aspect of bitcoin I wanted to be part of the bigger bitcoin world. In that my hardware is helping to grow the network because I believe in the idea of a decentralized currency and what it can bring to the world.


Now to address the idea of Josh going to jail me suing him wouldn't cause him any jail time. Thats not how the US justice system works, I'm not able to bring him up on criminal charges only the government can. So when my refund request was ignored I followed the next logical step which was a complaint ic3 and FTC. Those are bodies that have the power to bring AMT up on criminal charges.

A quick nod back to civil legal action though and you'll see in the lawyer in clennel's case is trying to certify a class of those who ordered from AMT and 1. didn't receive their hardware, 2. Received hardware late (myself) or, 3.  were denied refunds upon request ( I fall under this too).

So if the class is indeed certified I'm entitled to a portion of any of the money that the class may receive as a settlement or via the trial.  So it's pointless for me to spend money on an independent suit.

so you are telling me that in 3 month the 1.2th miner will not make £5.67 ($9.38) in electric costs per day working on our most expensive electric tariff lol

your calculator says you get 5 btc in a year. thats crap.

 i notice the high price you set your electricity cost at sjre you dont pay 25¢ per kw if you do your butt must hurt.

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=1200.00&p=1400.00&pc=0.15&pf=0.00&d=6119726089.12815000&r=25.00000000&er=442.93000000&hc=5000

14000 dollar return on a 1.2 ths miner

miners will take years to run at 0% return unless electric cost booms

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if your waiting on your miner not paying the electric your waiting a long time. roughly speaking the 1.2 t uses 10% btc made daily on electricity and thats at this bismal price. if it was around the $5-600 mark again then it would be using only 3-4% btc made a day in electric. hard to guess but the machine will stop making elwctricity costs in about 5 Years if btc dif changes as it has. but by then the dif will hopefully have dropped due to ship jumpers and youll still make money.

I'm thinking there is something lost in translation here.

So I'll say again, we did ask for our money. It was not given to us. We can not go up to them at gunpoint and ask for a refund. They denied the refund, so many people filed complaints with the federal agencies in order to get said money back. But that doesn't make the money magically appear in our wallets or bank accounts. Only the company can choose to refund us. And the choice they made was to ignore the laws that require them to give full and prompt refunds. They instead continued to stall and then shipped hardware. None of which was in our control as they had already decided to not refund us.

If that has changed I'll gladly turn right around and ship that miner (kit) back  in exchange for a full refund. ( even shipping at my own expense) Because I can then take that money and purchase more hashing power elsewhere.

Almost 2TH instantly on pb mining.

But the fact of the matter is they aren't issuing refunds to those who want them.

i ordered the 520gh model but ended up getting the kit so as i dont get a psu they gave me an extra board, putting me to 700-750ghs turbo (so they say)
the extra hash was for delays. so at least im one of the few that got some sort of compensation or mpp. my greif was never with the delays it was purely with the lack of communication. i placed my order on 30th January so i haven't waited half as long as others have with orders below me

I'm confused as to why you think we didn't ask for our money.

Many of us did and were ignored.

its nice to see a few more fellow miners are getting their tracking numbers through looks like AMT are shipping kits now at least

Thank you Martin,

you are my hero today!
I hope the message shipped is true, so i can`t waiting to mine!

Steffen

"Your orders are shipping shortly."

According to Joshua Zipkin, "shortly" means 3 months.

this is a point i hope i recieved a rev 2 back plane and not a fud one

We shipped his rig yesterday, we're trying to find his tracking number in the moment.

Hi,

Thanks for the hint! Not sure if I'm brave enough to go to 1050 Don't want to overheat the miner.
Atm it's running well with 250 and 950mV, hashrate dropped a little bit to 128GH/s, HW errors are only about 0.18% - at least for me these values seems to be fine