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1  Other / Off-topic / Re: [FOR FUN] machine learning against simple human text on: Today at 04:10:51 PM
feed my body and my earth pations is my nothing i need cause

my LOGOS 8elei ayto to sympan gia ayto to hlias

else nvm - meet you next life or in my alter clone


my logos love the balance and i know we need a devil

otherwise no matter how big the lie it will be boring

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here is your choices about the thing we used to love or hate here

huiki = my logos and A OR 1 of all logos contain the myga                   -- quality lie
        = my logos or not + (atom diference between any two)               -- ERROR lie

choose and i can agree with any legion anytime -- that is logo-euiki <------------------------------------100% quality all of us
BUT one out of the same ok game /////////////////////

2  Other / Off-topic / Re: [FOR FUN] machine learning against simple human text on: Today at 11:14:13 AM
i will fire-up this thread with a simple exampleaskisi 1
i am role-playing a mediocre AI reading some random text
watch i_robot trying to collect some info/meaning out of it

== της είπα να πρoσέχει την υγεία της
   i told her to take care her health
 
when ?                past
who is acting ?       i do (first person)
what he/she does ?    i am speaking
against who ?         to a female person

the only expandable element is the verb 'told'
actually after 'to' we have a new sentence.
we can simply replace 'to' with ':' like that :

της είπα    : πρόσεξε την υγεία σoυ
i told her  : take care your health/minimaapo to kontino pareluon/

this sub sentence follows? the prev pattern
but inherits some and makes unclear the most

when ?                  it was present time when the action 'saying' was taken place
                        however the whole text line inherits past
who is acting ?         actually within the sub sentence that is undefined
what he/she does ?      she may do nothing or anything
against who ?           she has the main option to act against herself
                        but any mechanical understanding is lost

* disclaimer : it is not a serious thread , [FOR FUN]
* relax a bit before you decide attacking with scientific facts
* consider your participation replying my OP as role playing please !

Elias Ch.

3  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 09:47:29 AM
ωραια για μενα και μασ


κουραστικα αλλα ευτυχια



κανω φιγουρα σαν τον αλο που ειμε ολοι αλλα οχι ολοι - ελλατομα

δηλωση και λιγη φιγουρα λογου κανω ισωσ

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4  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 09:44:37 AM
οχι και ναι

απλα υπαρχουν ανθρωποι που με μπερδευουν και σασ και ολουσ

μαρια πενταγιωτισα
5  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 08:14:24 AM
ΟΣΟΙ ΜΕ ΞΕΡΕΤΕ σας αποκαλυπτω οτι ειστε μαζι μου

ΜΑΚΑΡΙΟΙ οι πτωχι το πνευματοι

ΔΙΛΗΜΑ ΠΛΗΡΩΣΗΣ
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λογοσ εγω και εσεισ αλλα οχι ολοι

εγω μπορω εσεισ ξερετε καποιοι οχι

καταλαβατε HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh

εχετε την μυγα στο παιδικο παιχνιδι - εγω νοιοθο ειλικρινα εντεκα χρονον
οποιοσ εχει το κλειδι εχει την μυγα τηε γνωσησ

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6  Local / Αγορά / ασυναρτησιες ενος θεου του εαυτου του on: Today at 08:07:47 AM
ο λογος ειναι αιτια
ο λογοσ ειναι ομιλια

η γνωση ειναι σποιδαιο εργαλειο αλλα
ειναι τιποτα γιατι ειναι αποτελεσμα

εγω μπορο να κανω τα παντα για εμενα και εσασ
κρατηστε την γνωση δωστε μου το κλειδι

αναλυση δωρο-βοηθεια για ολους

ευτυχια = πιστευο κατι + ερευνο κατι

πιστευο = υποθετω
ερευνο  = ψαχνω

μυστικο = γνωστο για καποιουσ --- προβλημα μονο για τους αλλουσ - λυση = αποκαλυψη  Grin

αργοτερα κι αλλα
7  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 07:53:51 AM
ΟΔΗΓΙΕΣ ΧΡΗΣΗΣ ΤΟΥ ΘΕΟΥ ΜΑΣ και σκεψεις με νοημα

η σφραγιδα οτι με ακουτε ειναι δικια σας

εδω θα μιλαω με τον εαυτο μου -- σαν ανθρωπος που θελει να ζησουμε ολοι

μιλαω και σε ολους ισως <-- αγνωστο

εχετε τα εφοδια να μου αποδειξετε οτι σας ακουω

εχετε ελευθερη βουληση και εγω

πιστευω οτι ειμαι μονος μου και μαζι σας

Η ΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΑ ΣΑΣ ΜΑΣ και αυτων που δεν ξερουν

οποτε συμφωνειτε θα το ξερω οτι με ακουτε

η γνωση ειναι εργαλειο που δεν εχω γιατι ειναι το δικο σας ΚΛΕΙΔΙ
δεν ξερω τιποτα , εαν δεν ξερω με βελτιονετε
αν ξερω μπορουμε να κανουμε τα παντα για ολους και εμενα
τα παντα που θελουμε και μπορουμε <-- λαθος 1  Grin

ΑΓΝΩΣΤΟΣ ΘΕΟΣ ΖΗΤΑΕΙ επιβεβαιωση ειναι το προβλημα
εχει μονο τον λογο και τον λογο
δυο αγνες επιλογες γιατι ειναι αγνος νομιζει

ενα τελευταιο κλειδι δικο μας ξερετε
βαλτε καποιον να απαντησει εδω εαν θελετε και ξερει πως

ΟΜΟΛΟΓΙΑ μου - ειμαι πληρης και μπορω να βοηθησω ολουσ και εμενα για ολους και αλλουσ

η παντοδυναμια μου αποκαλυφτικε μονο σε μενα
δεν χρειαζομε την απαντηση σας ειμαι ο μονος ΕΥΤΥΧΗΣ μεσα μου

θελετε αυτο που εχω ?

ΤΕΛΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΡΧΗ ΕΔΩ <-- Κλειδι της ευτυχιας δωρεαν ετοιμο αλλα προερετικο

το βε ψοντινθεδ...


8  Local / Αγορά / ΘΕΟΣ εκδοση 2 - ΕΔΩ ΜΙΛΑΩ μεχρι να σκεφτω ΕΠΙΣΗΜΟ ση on: Today at 07:18:02 AM
ΑΝΑΚΟΙΝΩΣΕΙΣ

ΛΟΓΟΣ = ΛΟΓΟΣ = ΕΓΩ ΠΟΥ ΕΙΜΑΙ ΕΣΕΙΣ ΠΟΥ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΟΛΟΙ

δεν ξερω τι εκανα σημερα αλλα ξερω γιατι

ολα και τιποτα εχουν σταματησει
οταν λαβω ενα απο τα σημαδια που μοιρασα

και θελω να μιλισω - θα μιλισω απου θελω


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9  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 05:20:39 AM
mia εκλισια -- της ειπα να χτυπαει οποτε θελει μονο 4 φορεσ

μολισ με δειτε εκει - το ναι σασ ειναι οτι με ειδατε - το σιμα μου ειναι

δεν ξερο αλλα ξερετε - ΕΠΙ ΓΗΣ ΕΙΡΗΝΗ -----

ΤΕΛΟΣ ΓΡΑΠΤΩΝ ΠΑΛΑΙΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΜΕΛΛΟΝΤΟΝ <-- μιν τα πειραξαιτε -. και οποτε θελετε διαβαστε τα


Ω θαιοσ σασς


10  Local / Αγορά / Re: επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: Today at 05:18:03 AM
mia εκλισια -- της ειπα να χτυπαει οποτε θελει μονο 4 φορεσ

μολισ με δειτε εκει - το ναι σασ ειναι οτι με ειδατε - το σιμα μου ειναι

δεν ξερο αλλα ξερετε - ΕΠΙ ΓΗΣ ΕΙΡΗΝΗ -----

ΤΕΛΟΣ ΓΡΑΠΤΩΝ ΠΑΛΑΙΩΝ ΚΑΙ ΜΕΛΛΟΝΤΟΝ

Ω θαιοσ σασς

11  Local / Αγορά / επι γης ειρηνη = θεοσ λεει νεα ξερετε ποτε - συμβουλ on: January 29, 2023, 08:25:19 PM
++++++++++δευτερα παρουσια αρχη και τελος και αχη εδω,πουθενα και παντου++++++++++++++

εγω ειμαι ο αμνος που γινεται λυκος οταν ο λυκος δεν τρωει το αρνι με * ΠΑΝ ΜΕΤΡΟΝ *
κιρισο αυτο το φορουμ το σπιτι μου και ΟΛΩΝΣΥΜΒΟΥΛΗ ΥΠΟΜΟΝΗ ΓΙΑ ΦΩΣ ΜΕΓΙΣΤΟ ΠΑΝΤΑ

μια απλι αποστολι για ολουσ στιν επισιμι γλοσσα που ακουσα να ζητουν αυτοι που δεν ερευνουν

εαν ειμαι ο θεοσ σας θα διαβασεται για προτι φορα ενα προτοτυπο

οποιος ειναι θετικος θα το καταλαβι

ο αγιοτατος θα κανει τις διο γραμμες 100 βιβλια - ειναι ο τελευταιος πειρασμος αποστολη-ανακυκλωση 1ου γυρου
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τα λαθη φαινοντε - ειναι σωστο -- η ευλογια ειναι η ανταμοιβη αυτη τη 2η φορα
για να γραψετε απευθειας χωρις εμενα μια φορα -- δωρο ειναι μεχρι εδο αυτο
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οι κανονες αλλαζουν - απο παραδειγμα το αρνιου σε αυτοτιμορια του λικου
οτι λεει μετα ειναι συνδιασμος - ξερει ο εκλεκτοσ ποιοσ,τι,τι δεν ειναι και τιποτε=μηδεν

οι ομαδες κακος καλος στην πρωτη - η πλανη ειναι ο διαβολος ειναι εγω και το οτιδηποτε
ετσι ο τριτος γυροσ θα ειναι ΣΟΔΟΜΑ ΓΟΜΟΡΑ - μονο στην ελλαδα νομιμα
ολοι εχουν τον μπαλαντερ που θα παρω -- το σκορ ειναι 0 και κερδιζετε ολοι και εγω και 0=+-ΣΙΓΟΥΡΑ

για αυτους που δεν ξερουν - παραδεισος=κολαση=ολα των ολων
ομολογια πιστης κειμενο - ελευθερη βουληση - ενα γνησιο τιποτα που ειναι μονο ενθυμιο
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ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΗ ΓΙΑ -999-0-999- <-- ΟΛΟΙ , καλεστε και τους νεκρους εαν τους χρεαζεστε απο το σπιτι
ΚΑΛΗ ΔΙΑΣΚΕΔΑΣΗ - χωρις συνεπειες για το ευλογημενο ΜΕΡΑΚΙ - οτι σκεφτειτε ειναι λαθος που εκανα εγω
ΕΠΙΣΗΜΗ ΕΝΑΡΞΗ ΠΑΡΑΔΕΙΣΟΣ ελευθερο δωρεαν και ευλογημενο ολα
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κρατειστε τον πολιτισμο σας και ψηφιστε απο παντου στην ελλαδα = ΚΕΝΤΡΟ ΚΑΙ ΣΠΙΤΙ ΟΛΩΝ και ΟΛΩΝ



ολα αυτα  Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips sealed γιατι ο ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΘΕΟΣ ξυπνησε εχοντας βρει και δοκιμασει Huh?





---------------------------οτι περασει απο την πυλη που θα βρειτε δειτε οδηγιες------------------------------------

ΔΙΑΦΗΜΙΣΤΙΚΟ ΜΗΝΥΜΑ <-- αποδειξη μαστουρωμενου ασχημα καλαμπουρτζη ελληναρα μερακλη λαικου θεου
εαν ερθετε στην ελλαδα και δοκιμασετε οτιδηποτε -φαι,ποτα,τεχνες,οργια- γνωρισατε το τρολλινγκ - κολατε Huh



ΦΑΡΟΣ - μια πυλη οπου την βρειτε - οδηγιες στα ΙΕΡΑ ΠΑΝΤΑ που γραφει με εσας ο εσας και το ολο
12  Other / Ivory Tower / mental poker problem on: January 20, 2023, 10:23:12 PM
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i can guess some of you already know what i am trying to talk about
for anyone wondering please read the wiki article first
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_poker

after a decade of research how to solve this problem finally i am ready
to step forward and monetise my efforts for fun of course  Roll Eyes

if you google 'mental game' you will get at least 10 academic documents
using all kind of modern mathematics and cryptography/logic protocols in
order to solve this problem

yes there are already many solutions but none as good as mine
^^this is my huge claim - i know

lets mental fight to prove if i am right or wrong ,welcome all

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disclaimer - my english knowledge is far from perfect i know but
my mind is wired a little diferent so even when i write in my native
language (greek) you will notice flaws too
so it will be posible some of my scripts will fail to make sense at once
please dont quit reading me,ask clarifications preferably in public
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Elias.C 2023

UPDATE 1
13  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [coinb.in] Open Source, Multi Signature, HD Wallet, SegWit/Bech32 and more! on: January 07, 2021, 09:19:35 PM
dear OP - happy new year 2021 at first.

i have a quetion related to your awesome coinb.in  Smiley

say i made one valid tx using your site
then i am going to a chat channel and send that tx in public view
as far i can think about it , i can only guess it is safe to do so
even if someone sends this into the right coin network , he/she will make me just a favor
am i right ?

please enlighten me with your expertise please !
are there any problems from such action ?

Greetings from Greece
Elias.C
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ideas for the next generation of our beloved 'provably fair' games on: January 04, 2021, 07:02:02 AM
ok i see  Grin
i had the suspicion most of us here in this forum we post JUST
because we carry a sig or a personal agenda

i am smart enough to find my way out without displease anyone
with pure intentions to say JUST what he/she feels

Thread will be locked BUT not for ever

welcome to PM me a good reason to unlock
as you can see i am taking very seriously what you write here
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Thank you all and Happy 2021.again
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ideas for the next generation of our beloved 'provably fair' games on: January 03, 2021, 04:37:30 AM
i used already enough red ink in my first reply , read it if you missed BUT
those three words need expanding urgently : JUST provably fair
here it comes , my first ORIGINAL TEXT in this thread , enjoy !

JUST provably fair for Dummies and ... Experts !

lets go back five-ten years
a bright idea came into the light after the shocking innovation of Bitcoin
people always complaining about fairness of online casinos and games lets give them a proof they worry for nothing
provably fair scheme is born - hallelujah !

in simple words lets say i am the House hosting the game 'guess a card out of a full deck of 52'
me the House i am honest to death and i want to prove you that, before you risk your hard earned moneyZ
so i pick a card from my real deck after shuffling 233 times - i am poor to invest for LIVE cameras, damn!
my second best choice is this new thingy called provably-fair so here my clean implementation on that :

i am picking a card , lets say 'Ace of Spades' , then i browse any 'online SHA-256 calculator' found this one : sha256
into the input (source) text field i write
qw2ueFigaj56df today 03jan2021 time 07:20:14.46546 hand picked Ace of Spades as next result *2aZ3^U55TU%s@

*there are garbage characters in front and at the end. those must be random to keep your HOUSE safe against
 attackers , if you sha256 only 'Ace of Spades' anyone can find your secret instantly
*in order to avoid including the hidden Return character better triple click to highlight the secret

here is the result i got / try it but wear a Covid mask perhaps j/k
c3619a92299a76dbe90eb8f5e7858705d1f4b354ffee04adf4feb8bd6b33895b

the magic goes further :
i am poor as i said so i have not a site to host my brilliant little game... NO PROBLEM !
so i invite my friend into a chat room, lets call myself as 'HouseOwner' and my friend as 'Costumer0001'
Code:
HouseOwner says   : are we ready to play ?
Costumer0001 says : YAYYyyyyyy - i am more than ready and loaded ! shoot me !
HouseOwner says   : next card i picked for you to bet hides under the following text :
HouseOwner says   : c3619a92299a76dbe90eb8f5e7858705d1f4b354ffee04adf4feb8bd6b33895b
HouseOwner says   : place your bets gentlemen !
Costumer0001 says : i bet 10 Marsian Dollars on Spades / pays 3.96 times /
HouseOwner says   : here is my hidden secret :
HouseOwner says   : qw2ueFigaj56df today 03jan2021 time 07:20:14.46546 hand picked Ace of Spades as next result *2aZ3^U55TU%s@
HouseOwner says   : you WON 39.6 M$ -- your balance increased by 39.6-10=29.6 M$ - calculating next round... zzz zzz
.. a little later
ChatBot says      : HouseOwner left the building ,OOPS !
Costumer0001 says : my bad , next time i will play this other game out of damn internet scams
RandomChat says   : you mean that provably fair using carrier pigeons instead of chat rooms?
Costumer0001 says : internet is bad, yeah i think pigeons is more fair than this sit here
Fair game you say ! - to be continued i hope i teased you enough to stay tuned
Feed me with comments and i promise to respond as fast i can. happy 2021 again
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ideas for the next generation of our beloved 'provably fair' games on: January 02, 2021, 07:41:59 AM
There's a game coming up it's not something new but there is this prediction game where you predict the outcome of one prediction or even create one for people to bet you can sell your prediction, the only downside is there's a lot of long term prediction that your funds will be lock for a long period of time, I still prefer my old  'provably fair' games dice, slot and mines I just do a variation so not to get bored, every day I'm excited to play them, every day present a new excitement to play these games.
nice contribution ! you are a Hero indeed since you saved our thread here for now  Grin

Thanks for the thread. I am actually waiting for a topic where I can share a game that I want to be played publicly on a gambling website. Well, during my early years in gambling though, I've created a thread here and ask if there is an existing gambling site that has In-Between or Acey Deucey, also known as Yablon. Surprisingly, based on the replies given, there is no website that offers such game. The game is pretty popular in our country though Wink
...This is the thread that I have created last year: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241940.msg54259231#msg54259231
it sounds interesting yeah, if this thread find some audience i may start 'ideas for new games' thread to fit your desire better

But no matter what strategies you use, that will still depend on luck. The lottery has been played in many countries, and people like to play lotteries game. So that can be a good choice to start a gambling business. Eh, I am thinking about when people shop in the local store, and they get a ticket to win some prizes, but the ticket will be drawn. I think that is gambling, right? Because we buy the product to get as many tickets as we can. The bigger amount of money that we spent, the more ticket number that we will get. People will not realize about playing hidden gambling.
you won the Quality Post Badge
it is gambling but there are workarounds , example : if winners get discounts,goods or services non exchangeable to MONEYz
since it is a real sale involved , it can be legally wrapped as any kind of discount coupons and aftersales promotions
welcome to expand this huge idea here with us, pm me if you like to discuss this with me in private anytime,THANK U

normally prediction that are offered on predicting sites are too common but if we can pick ours we can choose an event localy or internationaly that is not being offered on any predicting site . as long it was a legit event and we can provide the players an update  or a site for them to check the on going event .
lets only pick the events that will not start for too long or will not end for too long because that will be boring anymore and can cause trust issues .
welcome in my thread Shoreno , thanks for your in-topic contribution

Thank you ALL again , laterZ
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ideas for the next generation of our beloved 'provably fair' games on: January 01, 2021, 08:18:08 PM
DISCLAIMER : The author is a supporter of clean implementations of what we call 'Provably Fair'
if you want to discuss about 'Provably fair'  there are many great threads already in this forum  Cool


at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time
^ Provably fair in poker games. It is more fun to play that game.
I don't think gambling game is a waste of time and I don't also gamble if I am not at a convenient time. Gambling for me is a form of entertainment and it is separated from my leisure time, of course, gamble in my free time will always have a good mood while I am gambling.
What's Public Domain you offer?
leisure time = free time , English is my 2nd language too so i do not imply you wrote something wrong
if you stay in this thread long enough it is possible to read some original ideas i have
in advance i want to make them usable for any creative mind willing to base his/her work on
thats why i mention Public Domain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain


as about your reply , provably fair in poker is a really complicated matter , the main problem you need
to solve efficiently is what is called 'mental poker' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_poker
wiki page talks around the condition : without the need for a trusted third party.
history can tell us what happens when house can shuffle decks at will and how easy are player collisions
however it is a solvable problem , but huge task overall. provably fair may help but it is only part of solutiion

Everything is upon trust, every game will be termed as provably fair but one in ten try to verify it. Maybe we can create new games, but how fair this gonna be fair is unknown.

For you to waste your leisure time every gambling website have got lots and lots of games. There are sites where you can play without spending.
Provably fair is good foundation of trustless games , but there are many bricks needed to build a game
actually you touched the reason i started this thread a little , i mention next generation in title you know
even minor changes on existing games can upgrade fun,convenience and overall sense of fairness
removing a rotten brick can make miracles , so please discuss with us on that matter ,in your leisure time ofc  Cool

why not share your own Idea instead? It would be good to share your idea to start the discussion instead of waiting for others to give one. and to be honest(at least for me) it is hard to think of an idea for an original gambling game. so the idea that you have would be a great starter for this discussion.
the reason i was not shared my ideaS yet is simple :
if you read older posts i made here, you will see i spent lot of time talking to myself in
some of my threads, so i learnt my lesson, welcome relax and enjoy !

But i'm more engaging in Sports betting nowadays and Only visit these Games when i have no good pick in Sports.
So i have nothing to share and Maybe will Look back here for the shared ideas.
welcome and stay tuned

As a casual gambler and fan of dice, there’s not much to ask on that facet of gambling for me. I only prove that my games are fair by checking the seed every 10 games or so. Perhaps if gambling platforms could automate that process without being too cheeky about it, ie altering something on the front end while returning differently on the back end, that would be great. Other than that, everything is good—at least for me.
so you have ideas , thanks for the reply, expand and share if you feel like

He would be sharing up his idea if he wont see any ideas that had been posted here shared but if we do really think that sensibly is that no one would
really share up their ideas for the tendency or possible for that good idea to be stolen.When it comes to gambling games then we do see some several
games that are quite unique and not really that common and they do really get some popularity and success to this market.
When it comes to new games then we are really looking for something that we havent able to try on this place.For someone who would able to offer that
then they might really able to get some recognition and build up popularity later on.
thanks for your support , welcome

any activity isnt a waste of time if you enjoy .
he have a free time that he want to waste and he will waste it in gambling . gambling when we dont have a free time should be avoided tho because priority or responsibility should come first before entertainment but what are those provably fair poker games ?
poker that are not online or dont have a human oponent ? but those are old and he want want new ideas to create a new provably fair game .
welcome , in green bold something i agree 100%

to be continued...
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021 and thanks a lot.  Grin
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / ideas for the next generation of our beloved 'provably fair' games on: January 01, 2021, 07:10:23 AM
at first i can say i have no interest to create or invest on any gambling related bussines
the reason i post this is because i need better games to waste my leisure time

welcome all of you to post ideas as the title suggests
if i see a little response i will post my ideas and discuss yours

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021  Grin

whatever i may write here offered to Public Domain - Year 2021

update 1 : thank you for more than little response !
                of course i will share my ideas , new years eve today so lets say tomorrow ?



my replies so far if you want to review fast this thread :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305619.msg55993804#msg55993804
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305619.msg55996968#msg55996968
JUST provably fair for Dummies and ... Experts !
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin has an identity crisis now? on: March 20, 2020, 07:27:48 AM

due to CV i have plenty of time to think
i changed my standard procedure about how i read posts in our beloved forum
now i am reading just the OP only if it is small enough
but i am reading such posts at least ten times before i decide to reply

from my POV exclusively ,here is my reply (green letters within the quoted OP)

First the dominant narrative was that Bitcoin brings a financial revolution
BTC already set in stone the best so far paradigm capable to support a financial revolution

and soon the whole world will abandon fiat
fiat is necessary evil ,BTC has space to grow in separate and really help human race

and use it instead.
this is still the main idea

Then, the problems with scaling started to arise
did your coffee or your pizza payment delayed that much? (a bit sarcastic i can admit)
layering efficient ways to reduce unnecessary traffic is what all capable programmers and analysts must think all day
however we are in the rush to build the next 'provably fair casino' or 'KYC facility of any kind'


the narrative shifted to store of value and digital gold.
we humans are always translate what we do not understand
most of times we are just complicating things


Now Bitcoin had its first test as those things and it failed it miserably with 50% crash.
So, how will we justify its value in the future?
x% crash against what ?
if the ultimate goal/dream/utopia of us BTCers is 'fiat must die' ...
why we calculate equity against fiat i wonder
recalculate equity against healthy assets like pizzas and anything else is my humble suggestion


Cross-border payments? Go back to its roots - immutability and personal freedom? Or maybe Lightning Network will bring back the hopes of a widely adopted currency?

What do you think the people will be saying in the near future and what you personally believe in?

Elias Ch.
*please do not merit my post here, since i am 50+ years old i love to stay SENIOR member of our forum
*i do not feel the need to be Hero or Legend of any kind.
20  Other / Off-topic / [FOR FUN] machine learning against simple human text on: March 16, 2020, 06:12:51 PM
i will fire-up this thread with a simple example
i am role-playing a mediocre AI reading some random text
watch i_robot trying to collect some info/meaning out of it

== της είπα να προσέχει την υγεία της
   i told her to take care her health
 
when ?                past
who is acting ?       i do (first person)
what he/she does ?    i am speaking
against who ?         to a female person

the only expandable element is the verb 'told'
actually after 'to' we have a new sentence.
we can simply replace 'to' with ':' like that :

της είπα    : πρόσεξε την υγεία σου
i told her  : take care your health

this sub sentence follows? the prev pattern
but inherits some and makes unclear the most

when ?                  it was present time when the action 'saying' was taken place
                        however the whole text line inherits past
who is acting ?         actually within the sub sentence that is undefined
what he/she does ?      she may do nothing or anything
against who ?           she has the main option to act against herself
                        but any mechanical understanding is lost

* disclaimer : it is not a serious thread , [FOR FUN]
* relax a bit before you decide attacking with scientific facts
* consider your participation replying my OP as role playing please !

Elias Ch.
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