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181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Guns on: July 23, 2012, 06:48:23 PM
Food kills far more people than guns.
Alcohol kills far more people than guns.
Cars kills far more people than guns.
I could go on.
Why are we allowing people to eat, drink, drive, swim, etc. ? Is it just because those are things you do? What are YOU doing that should be banned?

Statistics wise you're wrong:

USA, per 100,000:

firearm deaths: 10.27
traffic related: 12.3
alcohol related (except traffic): 8.03
food related: 1.63

Logically, he's wrong as well. Consider:

Sensible person: "Speeding kills. Thus a ban on speeding."

Wacko: "Food kills. Why don't we ban food?"

Sensible person: "You really don't know why we don't ban food?"

Logical fallacy.  Those statements are not equivilant.  Your 'sensible' person would have to ban cars, not ban speeding.  Like speeding, murder is already illegal regardless of the tool employed.
182  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A school that teaches about bitcoins on: July 19, 2012, 01:05:24 AM
What do you guy think about a school that teaches finance classes about bit coin?

Premature.
183  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 18, 2012, 12:49:21 AM
Two samples have been claimed, while five remain.
184  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 17, 2012, 12:03:29 AM
I want to try, I will pm you now.  Please label the product so no one wonders what this strange powder being shipped is.

I can't really do that.  I can only put my real return address on the outer envelope.  The sample will come in a small envelope inside a regular mailing envelope.
185  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 17, 2012, 12:01:21 AM
ill try it

Send me a PM with your address, please.
186  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 16, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
ill try it

I'll need a PM with your mailing address, please.

And that makes my fifth post, so I should be able to read those PM's soon as well.
187  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 16, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
Please post your home city, so that I can track that as well.
188  Economy / Goods / Re: Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 16, 2012, 08:28:46 PM
Does this work with HE washers?


I don't know because I don't have a HE washer.  Are you talking about a frontloader?

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And my 28 days, 21 Hours of time logged since I have been here 1+ year better count.

Since you are the first to show any interest, sure.

I'll edit the OP to reflect the changes.
189  Economy / Goods / Announcing my first product, Clothes Detergent on: July 16, 2012, 06:44:54 PM
I shall call this one, Formula #1.  This is an aggressive formula designed for hard to very hard water.  A mixed powder for low cost shipping, with no fillers.  Very concentrated, mildly toxic if ingested.  Keep away from children, seriously.

I'm offering seven free samples of this new product to the first seven posters in this thread, with the following qualfications....

1)  Must have a post count over 250 and must have been a member of this forum prior to January 1st, 2012

2)  Must be willing to post a review of the product in this thread.

3)  Must be willing to accept the risk of trying a new product.

4)  Cannot be from the same city as those posters prior to yourself.

5)  Should not be accepted by members who live in a household with anyone with sensitive skin.

6)  Should not be accepted by members who live in a household with an infant for the same reason.

7)  Be an adult, think this through.  If in doubt, let someone else test & review the product.

8.)  Must be willing to send me your mailing address via PM, obviously.

9)  Must be located withing the 48 continous United States.  Sorry, no international shipping.  Sorry to all members from Hawaii & Alaska

Thank you,

The Bitcoin Chemist
190  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Security of 0-confirmation transactions on: July 16, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
I'm wondering about the state of a transaction immediately after it is published to the network, before it has entered any block.


Your client will submit the transaction to all it's connected peers, which will each verify it against their own copy of the blockchain.  If they consider it valid, they will forward it to all of their connected peers, and so on.  Once they have seen a valid transaction that spends a particular set of coins, that peer will hang onto a copy of that transaction and reject any other transactions that it sees that tries to spend those coins again.  Thus, the best defense against a double spend with the regular client is simply having a few seconds advantage over any possible double spend attempt.  If you have an online store accepting bitcoins, it is too easy for an attacker to time the transactions, so it would help to use more sophisticated means of detection for online stores.  Brick-&-Mortor stores would have no problem, however, since timing the transactions while at a physical cash register is difficult by it's nature.  And Bitcoin aware Point-of-Sale systems have other tricks for reducing risk exposure here.

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 Does Bitcoin make any attempt at all to prevent double-spending or reversal at this point? If not, are there any theoretically possible approaches?

In a sense, yes.  The two transactions must race to cover as much of the bitcoin network as possible before the other takes over a majority of the mining nodes; because the transaction with the greater percentage of mining nodes is more likely to be included in a block, and thus become the officially correct transaction.  The other will be orphaned forever.

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If there's no protection, my worry is that Bitcoin really isn't as "instant" as it's often portrayed to be. If I meet someone to make a transaction, do I need to hang around and smalltalk for 10-20 minutes to wait for a block or two? I mean, to be honest, I really hate smalltalk.

It's not portrayed to be instant in all cases, but it can be pretty close.  Credit cards aren't instant at all, as they can be reversed up to 45 days later; they just appear to be instant because of all the user identification required.  If you are willing to identify yourself using bitcoin, these same tricks could apply.
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