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1141  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: TheBitMint - Buy Bitcoins With PayPal on: August 07, 2012, 03:10:11 AM
Alot of people like myself don't trust you because we feel that you lied to us by not disclosing your age.
It is your legal responsibility as an adult to verify that you aren't dealing with a minor. Failure to do so is on you.
1142  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 45 on: August 07, 2012, 02:38:05 AM
Current state:
Slots BTC Person
2 2 TangibleCryptography
4 1.5 ciuciu
1 1 rate5
1 1 Goat
1143  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 45 on: August 06, 2012, 09:28:46 PM
Current state:
Slots BTC Person
2 2 TangibleCryptography
1 1 rate5
1 1 Goat
4 1 tosaki
1144  Other / Meta / Re: Do mods/admins change posts contents? on: August 06, 2012, 07:39:32 PM
I have had a post title changed before after OTHER PEOPLE hijacked it. I supposed hijackers get precedence over the OP as usual.
Hijacking threads = ok
saying anything other than something negative about atlas = off topic
You've already been told that that was a poor judgement call on the mod's part, and we've apologized...
1145  Other / Meta / Re: Do mods/admins change posts contents? on: August 06, 2012, 05:56:22 PM
Yeah, all the edits we make are automatically displayed. That being said, although we sometimes fix formatting (quote tags are the worst), we don't change the content of the post, other than to delete sections of posts that were off-topic.
1146  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: BTC to lend. Actively seeking qualified borrowers on: August 06, 2012, 05:45:07 PM
Thread fixed, thanks!
1147  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: *NEW* Pirate Pass Through accounts at International Bitcoin Moneylender on: August 06, 2012, 03:41:52 PM
Sticky status removed because this is no longer a thread about lending.
1148  Other / Meta / Re: Who have the ability to stick a thread? on: August 06, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
There are 10 sticky threads currently in lending section.
I'm a little confused why some relatively new deposit taker e.g hashking has his thread stuck while other older members don't.
Stickies only go to people with lending operations, since that's what someone new to the section would be looking for. Otherwise, they would get buried in all of the lending requests. Everything else is covered by the "Who pays what?" sticky.

While you might think that it'd be better to collapse the threads into one, that will only ensure that those threads are never read, because "Guide to (anything)" stickies are universally ignored.
1149  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Error sending PMs ("You are not allowed to send personal messages.") on: August 06, 2012, 01:34:12 PM
Odd I've made two posts (don't mean to jump on this topic) but I'm having same issue unable to send pm's
Keep this in mind:
Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.
1150  Other / Meta / Re: Individual Thread Rules: Enforceable? on: August 06, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
In short, you never specified local rules for that thread.
I do like the idea of rulesets. Mods/admin might honor a ban-list. I tried banning MPOE-PR from a thread so I could test that, but then he never posted.  Embarrassed
We sometimes notice stuff before you do, so keep that in mind. In fact, that's most of what we do Sad
1151  Economy / Lending / Re: A list of defaulted loans (list of scammers inside here) on: August 06, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
I got hit by lxFlasHxl for 2 BTC with a repayment date of 8/25/11. Don't feel bad for me, though, since I've long since made it all back from the other limited amounts of lending that I've done.
1152  Other / Meta / Re: PM Viewing on: August 06, 2012, 06:43:43 AM
1) Who among the forum staff has access to my pms?

2) At point point were they viewed without my consent?
Why, what happened?

Only theymos and Gavin can view PMs. Gavin doesn't really do any forum work (he's mostly an admin in case of an emergency, these days, although he used to be the primary admin), so it's unlikely that he'd bother. Theymos only does it in the case where we need to verify a PM quoted by someone in a scam investigation wasn't modified or other such extreme cases.
1153  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 06, 2012, 05:55:48 AM
he's using vandroiy logic:

(interest + withdrawals) > 8000

withdrawals = ??

therefore interest > 8000

I suggest that you audit your business, since we apparently know more about what you are making than you do.
1154  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 06, 2012, 05:05:27 AM
I don't know, but I guess the calculation goes something like this:

Quote
bitcoin max gets about 9000 BTC per week in interest.

i high-lighted the key word here.

please point out any week, any evidence at all showing i get about 9000 BTC per week in interest Roll Eyes

the guesses keep getting stranger by the minute.

BitcoinMax is not getting 9000 BTC in interest, true, but it's getting over 8000 BTC in interest. With a .8% cut for yourself, you personally made about 950 BTC for yourself this last week. That's over $9000, even if the bitcoin price drops a bit.

Ok, go on then, show us your data Smiley
That will compromise the investigation, so I cannot. Every day, though, we're finding out more about Pirate's scheme.
1155  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 06, 2012, 04:53:38 AM
I don't know, but I guess the calculation goes something like this:

Quote
bitcoin max gets about 9000 BTC per week in interest.

i high-lighted the key word here.

please point out any week, any evidence at all showing i get about 9000 BTC per week in interest Roll Eyes

the guesses keep getting stranger by the minute.

BitcoinMax is not getting 9000 BTC in interest, true, but it's getting over 8000 BTC in interest. With a .8% cut for yourself, you personally made about 950 BTC for yourself this last week. That's over $9000, even if the bitcoin price drops a bit.
1156  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What do you guys think about this Whole Newbie system? on: August 05, 2012, 11:40:52 PM
if they really want to fight spam there should be a demonoid-esque system of invites/vouching where you get in trouble if you give somebody an invite and they spam.
That's actually already in place, however the users can't do it directly like with Demonoid - they have to ask one of the staff members or post in the whitelist request thread.
1157  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 44 on: August 05, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
Final:

Current state:
Slots BTC Person
1 6.5 Goat
4 6 cablepair
2 3.5 TangibleCryptography
1 1.5 Luceo
1158  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: August 05, 2012, 10:36:33 PM
I really question why you guys are donating anything to Payb.tc, given that he's currently making over $9000 per week off of this. That's about $470k per year, for those of you who are bad at math.
1159  Bitcoin / Important Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitcoinica Consultancy abandons customers. Bitcoinica to enter Liquidation on: August 02, 2012, 02:18:49 PM
@Tihan
Where I am from delayed filing of insolvency is a criminal act. Will you as creditor conduct a report to law enforcement for us?

There will be legal action against Consultancy members for applicable acts of civil and criminal wrongdoing.

How does this effect the efforts by Mt Gox, AurumXChange, et al. to recover the funds from Zhou (or his mysterious friend as the case may be?)

This should remove roadblocks to recovering additional funds.

When the hacker was ready to return 15,000 BTC, that transaction was delayed for days because the Consultancy would not provide a receiving address.

Thankfully, Mr. Murck stepped in as a licensed attorney to broker their receipt. He was subjected to a lot of hazing and invasion of privacy here for doing so. Without him, the coins might never have been recovered.

Those funds and any additional recovered funds will be placed under control of a receiver. This is a formal legal process that will allow Mt Gox et al to release funds to the receiver for distribution.
Quick update. The returned Bitcoins are being moved to an account where the receiver can consolidate funds. Transaction details here: http://blockchain.info/address/1LH6Q1ZXvdQepz8hfQd7kx6XHrggz1VkzD.

More updates to come.

Thanks,
Patrick
Quick update. The returned Bitcoins are being moved to an account where the receiver can consolidate funds. Transaction details here: http://blockchain.info/address/1LH6Q1ZXvdQepz8hfQd7kx6XHrggz1VkzD.

More updates to come.

Thanks,
Patrick

MtGox officially confirms currently having on deposit those 15,006.00000000 BTC. As you may know, our system uses a pooled Bitcoin online reserve, which means that activity beyond that point is no longer from Bitcoinica, LP.

We also have disabled the ability to withdraw Bitcoins from the account where those Bitcoins are held to ensure the security of those coins until we receive validated information from an appointed receiver for Bitcoinica, LP.
1160  Bitcoin / Important Announcements / [ANN] Bitcoinica Consultancy abandons customers. Bitcoinica to enter Liquidation on: August 02, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
It is August 2012 and 80 days have passed since Bitcoinica was taken offline following the Rackspace hack. Many of you have followed developments since that time with interest and frustration. The company's investors and I have also been extremely disappointed.

Donald Norman, Patrick Strateman and Amir Taaki accepted responsibility for Bitcoinica on April 24 as Bitcoinica Consultancy and have retained the -only- legal authority to act on behalf of the company. At this time it appears they have abandoned their legal duty.

They now refuse to reply to communication, refuse to acknowledge their responsibility, refuse to resign voluntarily, and refuse to act. In particular they have refused to do anything to recover stolen funds, even where the required action is as simple as providing a payment address. This is now hindering the efforts of others to minimize loss to Bitcoinica's customers.

Clearly, this must end.

Acting in its capacity as creditor to Bitcoinica LP, the Wendon Group investment fund will appoint a receiver under New Zealand law. This has been an option of last resort which is now unavoidable. Under receivership, a licensed and insured specialist will replace the Consultancy as the designated authority. Upon satisfaction of secured creditor interests, the company will proceed to liquidation in which remaining funds are distributed. Without Consultancy cooperation, this is the only ready way forward.

Wendon Group intends to donate any funds it obtains via receivership in favor of Bitcoinica customers. Complete liquidation will likely take place over a matter of months.

While this is not the outcome any hoped for, it is certainly an improvement over the deadlock resulting from Donald, Patrick and Amir's untimely abandonment.

Many have suffered because of the Bitcoinica disaster. Everyone is right to be upset. Since no one in charge has seen fit to offer an apology, let it be me instead. To all those affected, I'm very sorry.


Tihan Seale

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