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281  Other / Meta / Re: Banned For Trolling... on: June 29, 2013, 02:03:15 AM
It is, but we usually warn people before we ban them for this very reason.  Undecided
I was never warned Can I see list of rules?
These are the publicly posted rules:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.0

However, we don't moderate based off of those rules to the letter. Instead, we moderate according to the spirit of those rules, so don't try playing lawyer on us. God knows we get enough of that.
282  Other / Meta / Re: Banned For Trolling... on: June 29, 2013, 01:53:06 AM
It is, but we usually warn people before we ban them for this very reason.  Undecided
283  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB $0.5 btc with Paypal on: June 28, 2013, 11:46:20 PM
He did post in the thread, I requested he do that, but really looking back its not as if that offers much. He Deleted it soon after disappearing for 20 minutes then coming back.


Sad times.
When trading on this forum, always quote the posts made by the other party.
284  Other / Meta / Re: Another topic to lock on: June 28, 2013, 11:24:16 PM
Looking at his past posts, I think that I will let this one go by. He really shouldn't do that, though  Angry
285  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [SOLD] Custom Built Mining Rig 2x7950 on: June 27, 2013, 11:03:05 PM
Also since this transaction was all in BTC, not sure what the BTC/USD value has to do with anything. But I PM'd asking for your address, i'll send you what you're asking, don't care to start shit here over a couple of bucks.

PM sent with the same address as above. You offered to honor the original value of the purchase, which I think is fair since my BTC has been tied up in escrow for 22 days now and you were unable to keep your end of the transaction. :/
Escrow returned to that same address:
https://blockchain.info/tx/26f28057b7446f4828f25451d24d8d0ab120d124dbfd2df96cf36fbbb9ab7ee3

Tips may be sent to the original escrow address, if you wish:
13JKMSnZ2igqaJuUJAiUR9JKPPKLuUzfNZ
286  Other / Meta / Re: why are you erasing all the posts accusing oldsport of being a scammer maged? on: June 27, 2013, 05:17:29 AM
Honestly, I haven't really looked into the matter too much. Not that we can do much about it, anyway.
287  Other / Meta / Re: why are you erasing all the posts accusing oldsport of being a scammer maged? on: June 27, 2013, 03:51:20 AM
are we to beive all the accusations against him goiback 60 days are invalid?  isn't it your job to expose scammers rather than cover them up?  why are you erasing my posts making it harder to find the five threads where members of the forum accuse oldsport of being a scammer?

Because I already let you post in the threads once. Bumping them any more than that is spamming.
288  Other / Meta / Re: [Theymos] I Got Hacked Please help me recover my account on: June 27, 2013, 03:33:52 AM
Verified this enough to ban the other account until this is resolved.
289  Other / Meta / Re: [Theymos] Is bitcoin-talk.org owned by bitcointalk? on: June 27, 2013, 03:17:11 AM
No. CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD NOW!!!!
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MOVED: [SCAM WARNING] [ANN] Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- on: June 27, 2013, 03:11:58 AM
Honestly, if policy would have allowed me, I would have done something about this way earlier. Something really needs to change here...
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- on: June 27, 2013, 03:08:13 AM
Lulz the Royal Australian Southern Sky proof is shaped like a dome. I can't wait to hand someone a dome-shaped LTC coin.


292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- on: June 27, 2013, 03:03:23 AM
Wanted to save this:
Alright, well I have just added a Scam warning to the thread heading. I will explain my actions, so that you can either fix what is wrong, or just give up if this is indeed a scam. The [SCAM WARNING] tag isn't necessarily a permanent thing if you can provide a reasonable doubt that you are indeed a legitimate business owner.

1) You claim to have orders, but no one is coming forth and saying anything about it.
2) Lack of escrow is alarming, but not an offense all together. Combine with the other factors though, it leads to serious concerns
3) You claim to be affiliated with a large Precious metal trading company, but not eager to provide any sort of proof to your claim
4) Linking in with #3, when I asked you if you would ship to Australia, that was actually a test. Australia has incredibly strict silver importation laws, I figured anyone working with APMEX would be at least aware of the $1500 minimum order needed as per APMEX policy due to these restrictions.
This taken from the Australian Customs page:

Country Conditions for Mailing — Australia

Prohibitions (130)

Coins; bank notes; currency notes (paper money); securities of any kind payable to bearer; traveler’s checks; platinum, gold, and silver (except for jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); precious stones (except when contained in jewelry items meeting the requirement in “Restrictions” below); and other valuable articles are prohibited.

As I said before, please note, if you can otherwise prove you are not a scammer, and you are indeed a legitimate business, I will remove the [SCAM WARNING] tag. But with that many red flags, it is in my best interest to attempt to protect the Bitcointalk members with the warning.

293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING[ANN] ------- Physical LiteCoins Available Now - Physical Crypto! ------- on: June 27, 2013, 12:15:20 AM
Just saving this here in case it's deleted:
SCAM!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIedccBuDy8



Hey retard scammer, if you think you can delete my posts faster than I can post them you are wrong. Bye!
Thank you for the constant bumps Smiley Yes that is one of our designs we used to implement our LiteCoin design right into, not only to save on cost but we personally like our design.

You stupid incompetent fuck, you are talking with (web) designer here. Your modification of the coin above, to make it Litecoin, is just pathetic.
You do not know even how to put text "10 LiteCoin" on a path, one of the basic lessions when it comes to design.

Now, fuck off!  Cheesy
294  Bitcoin / Important Announcements / Bitcoin-Qt / bitcoind version 0.8.3 released on: June 25, 2013, 11:01:55 PM
Bitcoin-Qt version 0.8.3 is now available from:
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.8.3/

This is a maintenance release to fix a denial-of-service attack that
can cause nodes to crash.

Please report bugs using the issue tracker at github:
  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues

0.8.3 Release notes

Truncate over-size messages to prevent a memory exhaustion attack.

Fix a regression that causes excessive re-writing of the 'peers.dat' file.



Thanks to Peter Todd for responsibly disclosing the vulnerability
( CVE-2013-4627 ) and creating a fix.
295  Other / Meta / Re: Suggested new Moderation rule on: June 21, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
I'm still wondering why my post there has disappeared Huh.
I split it off and sent it over here, since it was off-topic  Undecided
296  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [SOLD] Custom Built Mining Rig 2x7950 on: June 21, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
Yes I agree.
To which part?
297  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 02:58:21 AM
As for "all Theymos needs to do is check the post edit history", user-deleted posts are considered private information (or if not, they should be), and private information can only be released when a scammer has been confirmed. In general, for someone to scam, there needs to be a victim. When there is a victim, a settlement can be made without ever declaring someone a scammer. That's why I'm not asking Theymos for the information yet. Also, there is enough evidence in the post history of Werner to not even need this information until a judgement is made. But again, for any of that to happen, we need someone to step up and say that they believe that they were scammed by Werner's shill bids.

PMs are considered private information - and rightly so.  Yet you routinely ask people to send copies of PMs that an alleged scammer wrote so that they can be confirmed as existing.

If you'll confirm that a PM (which was NEVER intended to be public) is legitimate then what pathetic excuse is there for not confirming that a post made in public is genuine?  Your argument (giving it more credit than it deserves by even using that term) falls down because you are NOT being asked to release new information - just to confirm whether information that already exists in the public domain is genuine.
Very good point. Thanks!

And we're back to the ludicrous position of a scam only being a scam if a victim comes forward.  As I've said before on this inane concept - there'd be no convicted murderers if that policy were applied more widely.
Not really. In that case, the victims that would come forward are those that were affected by the person's death, such as their family. Also, murder cannot be undone, so because there is no possible resolution, it is safe to not bother with waiting for a victim to come forward.

To be guilty of being a scammer doesn't require success on every occasion - incompetent scammers are also scammers, just not very good at it.  Provided there's an intended or potential victim then the perpetrator IS a scammer.  Even if the tag is only for successful scammers (so ones so bad noone will fall for it will never get a tag) then why does the victim need to complain?  The victims here have been identified (or at least some of them : we have no idea how many more sockies were out there).

I also disagree with the concept that a scammer who pays back ceases to be a scammer.  But at least on that point there's some general consistency - i.e. it doesn't only apply to people you're on good terms with.
I'm liking where this discussion is going. I'd love to hear more.
298  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 12:11:52 AM
Second off, protecting the scammer is how we always start off an investigation.
How many seconds after my pirate bet ended did I get a scammer tag, and who contacted me to confirm things first? What "investigation" was there? Theymos doesn't have a very good record of being anything but reactionary. You on the other hand, I agree do a good job investigating in most cases.
Doesn't matter. That case was extremely clear, especially because the contract even said that you would take a scammer tag if you didn't pay.

As for "all Theymos needs to do is check the post edit history", user-deleted posts are considered private information (or if not, they should be)
Public information is considered private?
That's the question, isn't it. A situation like this really hasn't ever come up, so until we are convinced otherwise, it's best to take the most conservative position. In this case, that would be considering the information to be private. I would like to hear arguments for and against this position.
But again, for any of that to happen, we need someone to step up and say that they believe that they were scammed by Werner's shill bids.
I believe I was scammed by Werner's shill bids as I was planning on bidding but didn't because Werner outbid my maximum bid. He robbed me of potential profit and he should pay me for that. Now that someone has come forward, it appears you need to step up your investigation to "get off the couch" mode.
That would only be possible if he had won one of the auctions. However, since he didn't, that means that you would have been outbid regardless. Therefore, only the winners of the auctions can claim to have been scammed.

Why would we be waiting on you to tell Theymos anything, is he too busy counting the 6000 BTC donated to him to do his job? (Yes, I appear to be trolling but I'm actually dead serious).
Theymos is very busy and can't really take the time right now to handle issues that don't already have a clear consensus. He's free to respond, of course, but I won't push him to.
299  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
Why does Maged even post here with speculation at all, when all Theymos needs to do is check the post edit history? Hell, it's probably already been broadcast across RSS when he made the first post. I'm dumbfounded as to personal opinion, speculation and accusations need to enter something so seemingly cut and dry. Is it because Garr255 is a friend of Maged and he's trying to protect him? It certainly can't be that Maged thinks BFL and Inaba are dishonest, as he wouldn't have accepted payment from funds paid by BFL to false advertise here. Maybe it's all fake resistance to make it appear that the mods are objective of Inaba and not just on his payroll now.

Check the logs, Theymos, and we don't want to hear you say "oh well when matthew was misleading it was serious, but when Garr did it it was obviously a prank". /thread
You're confusing several factors here. First off, we've never had someone who hasn't otherwise scammed people be reported for bid shilling. Thus, it's important to hear all sides on the matter. Second off, protecting the scammer is how we always start off an investigation. It's everyone else's job to convince us that we're wrong. That's just how this works.

As for "all Theymos needs to do is check the post edit history", user-deleted posts are considered private information (or if not, they should be), and private information can only be released when a scammer has been confirmed. In general, for someone to scam, there needs to be a victim. When there is a victim, a settlement can be made without ever declaring someone a scammer. That's why I'm not asking Theymos for the information yet. Also, there is enough evidence in the post history of Werner to not even need this information until a judgement is made. But again, for any of that to happen, we need someone to step up and say that they believe that they were scammed by Werner's shill bids.
300  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 05:13:03 AM
Thinking this through, scams here (usually) need a victim to exist to be tagged. I don't really want to do anything about this until they come forward. Once they do come forward, if Garr255 would like to settle the issue with them, that would prevent the need for me to neg trust him.
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