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321  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proposal to change Bitcoins hashing algorithm to Scrpyt-Jane on: June 15, 2013, 08:32:48 AM
No matter the algorithm, there will almost certainly eventually exist an ASIC that is either more efficient or less expensive than a GPU or a CPU. A different algorithm might have a smaller gap, sure, but given how competitive mining is, that gap, however small, will always be enough to push away non-ASIC miners. Once the mining community has ASICs, it becomes impossible for a government, etc. to spend millions of dollars to get better equipment than the mining community. Instead, they have to compete on even footing - matching dollar for dollar what the network already has. If we make it past this point without an issue, there will be no need to change the algorithm.

Even if the network as a whole spends hundreds of millions of dollars on equipment, if that money wasn't spent on ASICs, governments, etc. can do a 51% attack just by spending a few million dollars on research and development of an ASIC.
322  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: FREE ASIC's! - moderator note: scam- on: June 15, 2013, 08:09:36 AM
problem is, it doesn't stop them from arresting you if you sign for it.
Yeah, the line of thinking there is pretty retarded. I was very disappointed when I learned that this was done.

If anyone has any problems from the authorities, though, please have your lawyer contact theymos. Better yet, make your local police department aware of the situation before there is ever an issue.
323  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The truth about the BFL 1000 BTC fund? on: June 15, 2013, 08:03:32 AM
I requested funds for BEP to see if I'd ever get a response.
Let us know how this turns out. I'll be very interested in their response.
324  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The truth about the BFL 1000 BTC fund? on: June 15, 2013, 08:00:02 AM
Back on topic, wasn't the reason BFL didn't get a acammer tag that they were to donate to charities and they didn't do that?
Partly, yes.

Didn't Maged admit that the reason behind creating the "trust" system was because Theymos didn't want to cut off his cashcow, BFL?
Uhh... That's a very strange interpretation of what I've said. The creation of the trust system had nothing to do with BFL, as far as I know.

Yet everyone else is still getting and holding scammer/untrustworthy tags. The hypocrisy and corruption is deafening.
Scammer tags are no longer handed out except in the most extraordinary of cases because the trust system is supposed to be a replacement for the scammer tag system. Instead of only being allowed to trust theymos' judgement of whether or not someone is a scammer, you're allowed to add other people's opinions to the list of people you trust, since you clearly think that theymos' opinion on who a scammer is is too narrow.
325  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The truth about the BFL 1000 BTC fund? on: June 15, 2013, 07:50:55 AM
Matthew, I hate to say it, but they have a point. You've turned into Bruce Wagner and everyone wants to stay as far away from anything you're involved in as they can. I hope this thread causes a BFL supporter to submit a request for another charity and prove you wrong, though.
The BFL charity fund's transparency and legitimacy is being questioned and your only comment is to generalize the opinions of BFL Josh as being that of "everyone" and try to compare me to a homosexual self-important?
Yes, because that's how bad your rep is. I look forward to others submitting similar requests to BFL.

Is this what we get to look forward to once BFL's ads are paying your forum moderator salary?
Yes.

but only because I could care less that BFL indirectly pays me anything and my opinion on the matter has remained consistent.
326  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: FREE ASIC's! - moderator note: scam- on: June 15, 2013, 07:44:52 AM
No it isn't. Maybe if you went and actually picked it up from a po box.

um yeah it is. I know because my Uncle is a DTF agent. its only illegal if you accept the package. if you refuse to take it they can't charge you.
Yeah, this is true in practice. However, it would be easy to argue in court that you didn't know what the package was, so of course you signed for it!
327  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The truth about the BFL 1000 BTC fund? on: June 15, 2013, 07:33:58 AM
Matthew, I hate to say it, but they have a point. You've turned into Bruce Wagner and everyone wants to stay as far away from anything you're involved in as they can. I hope this thread causes a BFL supporter to submit a request for another charity and prove you wrong, though.
328  Other / Meta / Re: user foxhole is sending payload virus links he MUST be banned ASAP. on: June 15, 2013, 07:25:33 AM
Can I get verification of this from someone that isn't an alt of buyer? In the meantime, please click the report to admin button and theymos will take care of it eventually...
329  Bitcoin / Important Announcements / Re: FinCEN addresses Bitcoin on: June 15, 2013, 06:56:24 AM
Some added info and perspective:
http://www.fincen.gov/news_room/speech/pdf/20130613.pdf
330  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 05:34:33 AM
There is actually a huge benefit to having few moderators that work many hours: more consistent decisions.
Judging by the "Did you delete that?" posts in the moderator subforum, I highly doubt that. I think it's more likely that there would be more discussion of fair policies, which would jeopardize the current status quo.
Those are fairly rare.

You'll be hard pressed to find other forums that have such consistent decision-making as we have here.
Somethingawful.com. They ban everyone for everyone. Very consistent.  Cheesy
You know what I mean, Matthew...
Not to mention, I think the mods would eventually rebel when they realize that the forum is making over $4k/week and they aren't seeing a single cent. In fact, I was considering quitting right before this was implemented because of that. I even burned out and stayed away from this forum for almost a month because of the time commitment. Now that I'm paid, I can actually justify the time commitment.
Basically you just gave more reason to bring more moderators in. Why would you be burned out when your workload is so little thanks to 100 more mods joining? Sorry, but your response sounds more like rationalization than an actual argument,
I won't disagree. More mods would be nice to have. I've seen some really good reports, so I think we have some good candidates. Now you just have to convince theymos.
331  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 05:27:41 AM
I remember I had a thread with absolute posting rules posted in the OP, clearly stating that if anyone goes off-topic that their post will be deleted by a mod. Mods did this regularly, but then got bored apparently. When I asked Theymos directly, he said "Start your own self-moderated thread". This sent the message to me that moderators don't want to moderate. Once I found out they're being paid to moderate, that is no longer acceptable.
Two things with this:
1) This was before the upgrade to the report system. It was hard to keep track of what had and hadn't been handled.
2) This was also before we started being paid.

Matthew, I always cleaned your threads when I was online and I was made aware of an issue. In fact, we make more money if we handle these issues, so if I saw that now I would scope that up in a heartbeat.

Assuming you're speaking of the current situation where mods get paid, how would you know that aspect is incorporated in theymos' secret algorithm?
I don't, but I know theymos enough that I think that it is incorporated in at least some manner. I suspect that only one deletion in a topic per day or some such counts, though.

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As far as upgrades go, theymos has done pretty well so far. Most recently, he added the trust system. He should seriously be paying himself just for that, but so far he really hasn't been* (as far as I know?).

The general consensus is that this was put in place to end the scammer tag thingy after pressure mounted to give BFL, a paying customer, said tag.
Well, that's true, but it was still plenty of work adding it. And it is useful.
332  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 05:19:38 AM
Hire more mods!!! and if not hiring, atleast accept a few volunteers. something has to be done about all of these scams occuring, and they stay up for 20+ pages and nothing is done. thats hardly moderation
That would require a policy change, not more mods.

This forum does need more moderators, but not because it isn't good at moderating-- because when moderators need to be PAID in order to do what most people would be happy to do for free, you know there is an apparent shortage of them.
There is actually a huge benefit to having few moderators that work many hours: more consistent decisions. You'll be hard pressed to find other forums that have such consistent decision-making as we have here.

Not to mention, I think the mods would eventually rebel when they realize that the forum is making over $4k/week and they aren't seeing a single cent. In fact, I was considering quitting right before this was implemented because of that. I even burned out and stayed away from this forum for almost a month because of the time commitment. Now that I'm paid, I can actually justify the time commitment.
333  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: June 15, 2013, 05:08:10 AM
bitblu: OK
334  Other / Meta / Re: Spamming to get the Hero status and get trust on: June 15, 2013, 04:42:13 AM
Handled.
335  Other / Meta / Re: Spamming to get the Hero status and get trust on: June 15, 2013, 04:36:29 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=86293;sa=showPosts;start=0

You might want to look at this guy as well.  He's posted on every thread in the Politics and Society section with "^", "+1", "Exactly"; things like that.
Handled. Thanks!
336  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 04:28:28 AM
I remember I had a thread with absolute posting rules posted in the OP, clearly stating that if anyone goes off-topic that their post will be deleted by a mod. Mods did this regularly, but then got bored apparently. When I asked Theymos directly, he said "Start your own self-moderated thread". This sent the message to me that moderators don't want to moderate. Once I found out they're being paid to moderate, that is no longer acceptable.
Two things with this:
1) This was before the upgrade to the report system. It was hard to keep track of what had and hadn't been handled.
2) This was also before we started being paid.

Matthew, I always cleaned your threads when I was online and I was made aware of an issue. In fact, we make more money if we handle these issues, so if I saw that now I would scope that up in a heartbeat.
337  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 04:23:09 AM
Can you also make a statement on why many people can report someone for harassment and going from thread to thread calling anything/everything a "scam" and making up stories and yet still not do anything about it?

Not trying to be a jerk about it; I'm genuinely curious as to why things like this haven't been dealt with yet.
Many things happen behind-the-scenes that you don't see. Typically, in these cases, we first send them a warning. If they don't stop, we ask theymos to consider a ban. Sadly, with theymos being so busy and unwilling to delegate banning decisions, this part can take awhile. Because the issue is not spamming, we're also not allowed to delete the posts.
338  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 04:17:39 AM
Oh very big job dude..
did you have seen namepros,hackforums or digitalpoint or some other big board?

They are 5x  bigger than this forum and mods are also less. They don't pay to mods, all are voluntary
and if you try to post spam or troll there, you will get banned within 1-2 minutes.
Like I said, it's only bad like that when you're the only mod who is online. We have plenty of time on our hands when someone else is online, though.

I've been curious how other forums that are this size or bigger handle things, so I'll check them out. Thanks!
339  Other / Meta / Re: Are the mods getting paid from this forum? on: June 15, 2013, 03:57:26 AM
As far as i can tell they hardly even moderate anything, let alone do any upgrades.
We moderate far more than you might think. In the past day, we've received about 50 unique reports and we have to research every one of them. When only one mod is online, they can easily only have time to handle just the reports, and we're still expected to find stuff on our own that wasn't reported. Trust me, it's an actual job.

As far as upgrades go, theymos has done pretty well so far. Most recently, he added the trust system. He should seriously be paying himself just for that, but so far he really hasn't been* (as far as I know?).

*Not counting his mod payments to himself, which is for his moderating, not forum upgrades.
340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Am I Playing my part in Bitcoin? on: June 15, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
It's very useful to have a node that can receive connections because we are losing those all the time. Thanks to you, other people can connect to the Bitcoin network.
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