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1701  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 04, 2012, 04:02:01 PM


What I don't understand is why you did this without talking to the owner first though.

Yeah, that's the part that seems fishy.  There is more likely more to this story than he's sharing, IMHO.
1702  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: December 04, 2012, 03:58:03 PM
To everyone: please do not feed blahtrollblahtrollblahtroll. He does not want to have a rational conversation -- all he desires is provoking others by misrepresenting ideas and lying in general. He wants to waste your time and tire IOU out, so he can derive psychic pleasure from you. Don't give him that pleasure. thanks.
...Once bbb takes the time to try finding historical evidence for claims of the superiority of the state beyond vast generalizations like "if ancap's so great why don't we already do it..."...

Here is my opinion: the state apparatus is a tool that can be used for good or evil. This much is clear from even a cursory understanding of history. Also, the arguments for gun control can be applied pretty much directly as arguments for "state control".

It's easy to point out flaws in various past and present governments/States/regimes/empires/etc. because there have been so many of these organisations. However, historical examples of AnCap seem so rare and involve relatively few people that there's really no historic precedent to support AnCap's alleged superiority. So you're basically comparing an idealised, untested thought-experiment against real-world structures with all their real-world flaws. Isn't that a double standard?

There are many examples of social movements that had no precedent.  The end of slavery was one such movement.  No one could say who would pick the cotton, but the cotton still gets picked.  We don't need an example of such an existing society (although we actually do have a couple of examples that were pretty close) in order to point out the flaws in the current system.  I'm not an ancap either, in part because I am concerned about it's weaknesses & stability, but using the fact that no such societies exist is not an argument that they cannot.
1703  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: December 04, 2012, 03:51:14 PM
It's like the One Ring: no matter your intentions, it is a thing of evil, and you'll most likely end up doing more harm than good. Monopolies are never beneficial to those they serve. Remove the monopoly. It's not rocket science.

There's only one law: No person has the right to initiate the use of force, threat of force, or fraud upon another person or their property.

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

I'd like you to explain how the non aggression principle could lead to a monopoly on force, because I can't see it.

Really, no matter how you look at it, the NAP is expressed as a social more in every major religion on Earth.  In judeo-christian history, it's the golden rule.  In the book Whatever Happened to Justice? Rich Maybury did a wonderful job showing that it's not possible to find a moral code that does not have a similar principle expressed for members of the tribe, it's in the exceptions that these moral codes differ.  The NAP has no exceptions, not for those who would portend to serve God, nor those who serve government.
1704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we deal with an internet blackout? on: December 04, 2012, 07:07:07 AM
The Internet was invented precisely because it can not be blacked out. Though if you are talking about blacking out access to the Internet, then I guess that's a possibility. In that case, electronic bitcoin transaction will be impossible, though physical bitcoins can still be used as cash.

Nonsense!!!!!

War, is one example.



An example of what?
1705  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitcoinCard - Are you buying one? on: December 04, 2012, 02:26:53 AM
This is an awesome idea! Although to me it seems like the card would become unnecessary because everyone is already carrying around cell phones and would only be a matter of time before phones would incorporate this technology.

Well, that is already happened, and I have such an android phone capable of doing exactly that.  However, I still want a bitcoin card.  Maybe several.  Give one to each of my kids, and buy a base station for my house, and I could track them within a couple of blocks.  The ability to use it as a bitcoin client as well might be entirely secondary.

Cool, which app do you use? I haven't investigated them too much.

BitcoinSpinner
1706  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitcoinCard - Are you buying one? on: December 04, 2012, 12:28:04 AM
This is an awesome idea! Although to me it seems like the card would become unnecessary because everyone is already carrying around cell phones and would only be a matter of time before phones would incorporate this technology.

Well, that is already happened, and I have such an android phone capable of doing exactly that.  However, I still want a bitcoin card.  Maybe several.  Give one to each of my kids, and buy a base station for my house, and I could track them within a couple of blocks.  The ability to use it as a bitcoin client as well might be entirely secondary.
1707  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitcoinCard - Are you buying one? on: December 04, 2012, 12:25:35 AM
Seems to be a promising device/technology but being tracked for your actions/patterns/habits is a sure deal-breaker. A typical smart-phone can be more than enough. I don't see any significant reason for this idea to re-invent the wheel.

You are already track with your cell phone BTW

Not only that, your cell phone can track you globally, and report that data to anyone over your data service.  The bitcoin card can only track you relative to it's base stations within a store, and can only report those movements to those base stations until it's beyond the reach of that store.  This makes tracking a particular individual rather difficult, unless your goal is to actually tail a particular person who has a bitcoin card number that 1) you know and 2) you have a mobile base station to track them with.  The bitcoincard doesn't have the capacity to track using GPS, nor the ability to transmit that data beyond a couple of blocks.  The street cameras in London can track your movements better than a bitcoin card could.
1708  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Underground business... on: December 04, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
Base it in a country out of the reach of the SEC.

As Intrade just found out, there is no such thing.
1709  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 03, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
Wait, why is it not legal to lease a license?  What says that you aren't an employee?  You're just an employee on a contract, instead of a hourly wage.  The contract says that you are expected to submit the first whatever amount of fares that you collect per week into the company, and that you are entitled to whatever the remainder of fares may be for the rest of the week.  Easy peasy.  For that matter, you could set up such a contract agreement with the old guy who wants to sell, that after so many years of doing this, you have just bought the license from him by payments made.  Kind of a work-to-own arrangment.
1710  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 03, 2012, 11:50:46 PM

I may try to get a loan from the bank to buy his license and car. But iam not sure about it. Beeing self employed is a lot of woork! But it would be cool to promote bitcoins with it.  I could advertise with door covers (image -> http://www.taxiwerbung-europe.com/upload/meine_bilder/werbearten/taxi_doorcover01.jpg ) +


#freemoney. Yes  I have a loots of customers so I have to solve this problem quick. A lot customers call me directly on my mobile phone

Then negotiate with the guy who is selling his license for a final price, conditional on your abliity to secure a business loan, write up a business plan (there are simple examples online that you could adapt in an hour) and take it to the business branch of your bank.  Show them your conditional agreement, your business plan (no need to mention bitcoin, that would just muddle the waters) and your history as a cab driver.  Be quick about it.
1711  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 03, 2012, 11:41:55 PM

I exchanged money in his car and accepted/sold/ bitcoins. So he cant trust me anymore and thats a reason to dismissal me instant.


If the core reason that you were dismissed is that the cab owner can't trust you to be honest with him, but you were a good driver; if you have the moxy you could return to him and offer him a weekly lease to rent his cab and then you keep everything over and above that rate.  Otherwise he still has to hire someone new, or his equipment is under-utilized.  I know it sounds a bit rediculous to make an offer to someone who just fired you, but I done it, and after a few days cooling off period I was able to reason with the old man, and explain that he was just viewing the situation wrong.  Maybe that's just me, but I've found that business owners have historical reasons to distrust their employees, and you just have to be the guy to offer him an alternative that doesn't require that he trust you so much.
1712  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 03, 2012, 11:36:51 PM
How much would it cost you to "lease" or buy a cab license?  In my city, most cab drivers actually rent the cab from the cab company on a daily or weekly rate, and keep all the fares for themselves.  If you can get this kind of deal, you could hang a bitcoin sign from the rear view, or some other little sign that doesn't stick to the the vehicle.  Then you could compete with your former employer and accept bitcoin however you like, but it would be in your interests to let the dispatcher know that you are the one who accepts bitcoin for fares, if anyone else should call.

1713  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I lost my job, because of bitcoins! on: December 03, 2012, 11:30:55 PM
The problem is that he likely admitted to putting stickers on his boss's property, the window of the cab.  I doubt that any judge is going to show him much sympathy for "defacement" of company property, regardless of just how rediculous a window sticker might be.
1714  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to determind what to sell bitcoins for? on: December 03, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
Depends upon how quickly you desire to sell.  If you're in a hurry, sell at the current offer.  If you can stand to wait a bit, put up an ask around the last price.  If you have the time to wait, set your ask to a bit higher, and see if someone will come up to you.  Or you could split up your bitcoins into some combination.

So the default offer will sell pretty quick? The default price is the last ask price. Or should I go a bit lower if I want to dump them quick?
Also, is it automatic or do I have to approve it?

Thanks for the help.

I believe the default is the last sale price, but in order to sell immediatly, set your ask to where the current highest bid price is.  That is literally a current standing offer someone has made, waiting for someone else to come along who needs the cash quickly.  The sale would happen before you could pull your index finger away from the mouse.
1715  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to determind what to sell bitcoins for? on: December 03, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Depends upon how quickly you desire to sell.  If you're in a hurry, sell at the current offer.  If you can stand to wait a bit, put up an ask around the last price.  If you have the time to wait, set your ask to a bit higher, and see if someone will come up to you.  Or you could split up your bitcoins into some combination.
1716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do we deal with an internet blackout? on: December 03, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
The internet blackout in Syria got me thinking about this too.

I see two possibilities. A transmitter could be set up that continiously broadcasts the block chain. Several of them in different places perhaps. They could be jammed, or falsefied so perhaps more than one would be needed. Its possible this could be even on the longwave band, or on something more modern like encrypted CDMA on a band of frequencies. As well as current transactions, blockchain history would also be periodically transmitted, perhaps using a special protocol that was able to transmit current and historical data simultaneously.



Shortwave DRM can do that, no problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale

So could a bit of rented digital satillite downlink once each day, such as is used to deliver daily educational shows to distant elementary schools.  Of course, then someone needs the sat dish and receiver/decoder; while DRM just needs a quality shortwave receiver that can be plugged into the sound port of a computer.
1717  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Concealed carry holsters, Bitcoin only prices on: December 03, 2012, 01:10:05 AM
I own a Sig Sauer Mosquito that I need a concealable holster for, do you have anything that would work well for this?
1718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 02, 2012, 09:41:27 PM
Where are you getting that idea from? The lead dev is working on new features with forum members in a thread here atm as usual.

As long as they are acceptable ideas Iím sure thatís true. Thatís the same way freedom in the USA works. Everyone is free to contribute as long as itís the type of contribution thatís acceptable.

EDIT: They stopped the conversation with a ban.

Maybe they concluded you just weren't going to take no for an answer.  Are you sure that it was a conversation?
1719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Libertarianism was created by big business lobbyists on: December 02, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
Nothing is getting ripped apart in here.  And this entire thread wasn't worthy of reading weeks ago.  I honestly don't care what you opinion of my political persuasion actually is, and don't really feel obligated to defend myself to you.
1720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: jgarzik goes berzerk in #bitcoin-dev, wtf? on: December 02, 2012, 09:35:24 PM
Where are you getting that idea from? The lead dev is working on new features with forum members in a thread here atm as usual.

His complaint is that the devs aren't listening to what he considers to be important.  And it wouldn't matter if they listened to no one, the source is open, anyone with the skils can do anything with it.
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