i hope you have a bid placed... any dip or crash will be aggressively bought, if you dont have a bid you wont catch it.

you better hope some one has been hording for a very long time and is now looking to buy a new house

I'm not sayin I voted yes, I'm just sayin I didn't vote no.

But obviously (to me) it depends on what it is.  I wouldn't invest in a hit-man business or anything violent.

+1

Many people do trust me.

Anyone who sends me Personal Message's about trying to make secret illegal deals that would hurt others in the community should not trust me.

If he only pays some debt holders like Vlad then people who are not paid can then sue Vlad for their chunk of the debt.

I guess they don't trust eubles that much - or even Czech koruna. I can hardly say I blame them.

You need to calm down, Atlas.  I saw you edit out the giant middle finger directed to Bad Bear and edit out calling him an asshole and trying to lock the thread because you don't like where it's going.

Pirate is qualified for this job!
-Shit it would be so easy for the them have a mole in this forum make a giant Ponzi on all of us!

Would a scammer first create an Open Source documentation of the "scamming master plan"?

Would a scammer operate member controlled?

Yes, see this is good advice and good advice should be encouraged . But all of these threads where people are complaining and talking about how everything is a scam all the time is very upsetting. Perhaps the mods should think of bitcoin as a brand and this forum as a sort of company website. Yes, it is important to address the negative things, but after they have been dealt with with a statement from the forum staff or something maybe it would be best to say that there will be no more discussion of the matter. The goal here is, after all, to make bitcoin a mainstream currency and spreading FUD is counterproductive to that.

edit: or maybe make it so that such talk is restricted to an area visible for forum users above a certain post count?

...mtgox losing their money by one of its employee forgetting the password to its cold wallet... magicaltux got hit by a bus...

I hate to say this but this "unveiling of number 8" isn't always a good thing. So far in history there is a reason why the heavy hand of authority comes into play, and unsurprisingly after markets have been deregulated for a time period, and turned into a steaming pile of shit. I personally believe that human nature falls into two social categories - those that take advantage of people and those that are taken advantaged of. There will be other pirateat40's with get rich quick ponzi schemes, there will be other Matt's that make reckless bets and don't pay up, and there will be many other denizens that will be far worse than these two combined; at this point in time, it's a simple race to the bottom really.

So, what happens in a completely unregulated market? Is it all a house of cards and one blow away from oblivion because there is no trust? Do all the weak hands, and/or naive investors all leave? Will people finally wise up after being scammed (maybe numerous times) and understand that this isn't a game? You are right, we are going into an unknown, but no one really knows if this will be good or bad.

While i completely agree on banning crying like a little bitch when you lose money because of your naivety you'll have to admit that bitcoin can be a bit of a minefield, certainly for newcomers.
Features like built in escrow will be very much appreciated by most of the community i think.