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16441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: USA Banking Giants announce new bitcoin like money transfer service clearXchange on: September 25, 2012, 02:28:55 AM
simply put, its a wire transfer between banks... just alot faster
16442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Project will be making a major announcement in September on: September 25, 2012, 02:15:21 AM
gavin already announced it..

new bitcoin client version..

now thats it from the news, now to the weather

16443  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 24, 2012, 09:33:35 PM
With reference to the medical technology:


I'm not sure how that can be accurate since BFL posted that they were BF Labs in 2011. Do you have any proof of this?

That line of reasoning makes no sense. Chris Vleisides is listed as the President/Director of BF Labs, INC. That's a pretty huge coincidence for some random company to happen to have him as a director.

at the time of the november 2011-december 2011 investigations BF Labs Inc of wyoming was still listed as the biomedical company that went bankrupt. it wasn't until 2012 that sonny bought the title.

surprisingly INABA was involved in investigating BFL in late 2011 and it was him and others on the thread back then that found butterflys chambers loft address via the telephone number.

but now he is on the dark side. ridiculing the evidence and any hints that he even helped gather the evidence in the pastebin he now calls tinfoil hat stuff

it might actually be worth reading the stuff in that paste bin, instead of letting INABA call it a tin foil hat job and ignore it.. read it urself and form own opinions. the bitcointalk thread at the bottom has many bits where inaba is in the chat.

tinfoil hat.. made using the aluminum from inaba lol
16444  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: The Koolio on: September 24, 2012, 06:48:07 PM
i have read all the threads.. and rubberduckie deserve the goodwill donation...


oneminer...
learn the difference between goodwill donation. and bounty..

it was a good will gesture.. not a payment for services.. = there was no contract. and even if they were a contract for payment of services.. those threads suport koolio's case not your oneminer.. its clearly obvios rubberducky helped him.

dont get arsy if ur half attempts dont get u a reward, and then claim its a legal payment for services rendered....

its good that you helped but dont get angry and threaten people if ur 10% advice thinks you deserve a prize when someone else does 90% of the work after you..

i hope you help more people out in future with a more positive attitude and not an extorting/blackmailing attitude you have shown today oneminer

again from my point of view and points of view of many readers of the threads, rubberducky gets the goodwill..
16445  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 07:09:15 AM
yes slight misleading especially when my first message was BFL dont make microchips, boards etc to which inaba's flame is It's all created by us, for us specifically.

dictionary definition of 'ALL'

maybe BFl should look back at the GPU industry websites. such as sapphire graphics..

not one mention of processor manufacturing.. but they do say board, card, solution...

their quote "Butterfly Labs manufactures a line of high speed encryption processors "

even more of a shame they tried linking themselves to the biotech brand name they bought up at start of 2012 which went bankrupt in 2011 and was not linked to BFL until sonny bought the title from the state for $50.

even more of a shame the butterfly labs tried so hard to pretend they started off as the biotech company they even added medical devices to their drivers page.

such a sad shame that the links dont work.. and the website has not been updated in that long, minus minor tweaks
16446  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 06:24:40 AM
Dude, lay off the crack.  I have never said we manufacture FPGAs, that it patently absurd.  By all means, provide one shred of evidence I have ever uttered that.



i would do direct quote but the thread is locked heres the link the the message of another INABA flaming reply

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109349.msg1204369#msg1204369
(quote)
Contrary to Franky's fabrications, we do not, have not and are not rebranding anyone elses boards and selling them. It's all created by us, for us specifically.

(/quote)
so 2 flames against me.. one saying BFL have it all made specifically next your saying you didnt make it specifically as its patently absurd.

there were more but i thought a recent one would do.. trolling through ur waffle takes a while.. Wish u just stuck with the truth and straight answers.. then it would be easy to read and get facts.

to clarify, just reply with a number that best describes BFL in relation to the FPGA production
1) BFL with FPGA would be a close analogy to ATI with GPU - producing the microchips
2) BFL with FGPA would be a close analogy to Sapphire with GPU - using other parties chips, but creating boards in-house
3) BFL with FPGA do not do any circuity. we use only OEM boards (free licenced ready made) and rebrand them

if one of these numbers does not best show what BFL done with its FPGA production. explain it as previous flames contradict each other.

P.S FPGA patently impossible.. hmm whats your patent status of ASICS
16447  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 05:21:40 AM
so if u cant design a FPGA then designing a ASIC from scratch is even less plausible.

FPGAs are general purpose programmable hardware.  It would have been stupid for BFL to create FPGAs from scratch when tons of other companies do it at much higher volumes allowing for a cheaper price than BFL could do.

this question is not about the shiny box, or the circuit board. just the chip...

it's a altera atratix3 EP3SL150F780 FPGA.

remember ur websites slogan 'manufacturing micro porcessors" (not verbatim)

The slogan is "Butterfly Labs manufactures a line of high speed encryption processors for use in research, telecommunication and security applications."  I'd like to see you buy a EP3SL150F780 and mine with it out of the box.  It's just a chip, so you'll have a hard time powering it and connecting to the network, let alone programming it to mine.  BFL has taken care of all that, thus they've "manufactured a high speed encryption processor".

I'm not a BFL shill, but couldn't stand this uninformed crap -- learn something about the technologies or get out.

INABA in the past said they produce the chips........... thats why i wanted him to say it again now everyone knows they are altera based.

secondly saying your a processor manufacturer.. is different to being a circuit designer.. ASUS, whom make motherboards do not claim to be CPU manufacturers..... same analogy goes for BFL.. so far we have seen them only make products using third party chips. i wanted INABA to confirm this. to counter his previous posts. or to uphold his position that they did indeed make the FPGA chip.

flame me all you like but making a sub $200 circit board using third party parts to gain trust, to then get the big money. is similar practice of many ponzi, pyramid and Pirate scams.

so as i have also pre-ordered. i am frustrated to see INABA say one thing, which contradicts what is found in the real world on websites and by actually finding out information.
EG sonny actually being a director and not just an employee of BFL
16448  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 04:54:12 AM
ok ill stay on topic with a direct question


why is sonny listed as the director when he purchased the incorporation title in wyoming from the then defaulted biotech company.

if you say he is only an employee?

please 1 straight answer. no waffle. no obscenities.. a straight answer from a rep of a company asking for hundreds of dollars from customers..

is sonny a director?
16449  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 04:42:02 AM
cheers for the waffle. thats 12 attempts on different forums requesting a straight answer which u reply with waffle and no substance..

your professionalism in PR is 0% good luck with your next career, hope you get your job at the bank back
16450  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 04:34:24 AM
INABA u quote my message but waffle about something unrelated to the quote..

BFL did not CREATE the CHIP!!! for the FPGA...

they imported the chip..

BFL are not manufacturers.. they are re-branders...

flame me all u like.. im not the one asking for $600+ off of people.. but just answer this..

did the FPGA chip used on the singles get designed and created by BFL. or is it a third party product..

this question is not about the shiny box, or the circuit board. just the chip...

it's a altera atratix3 EP3SL150F780 FPGA.

remember ur websites slogan 'manufacturing micro porcessors" (not verbatim)

people are not saying FPGA's are a fraud but ASICS are questionable especially when a few DIFFERENT people reversed engineered singles to find out they are third party parts. so if u cant design a FPGA then designing a ASIC from scratch is even less plausible.

and last think Sonny is ur director, not just an employee.. so stop with that lie.. its on government record....
<wait for a waffly flaming answer, and not a diplomatic professional answer>
16451  Other / Off-topic / Re: OK, i confirmed the model of FPGA they are using in BFL single. on: September 22, 2012, 12:40:25 AM
if they cant even design an FPGA chip and need to import a ready made chip. then their so called research and development costs are not that large.

secondly an ASIC is designed specifically for one task only.

good luck in them trying to design a fresh new concept if they cant even design a FPGA.
16452  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs CEO 25 Million USD Mail Fraud A Concise Summary of Evidence on: September 22, 2012, 12:26:58 AM
INABA and BFL both stated that butterfly labs make custom chips...
yet........ its not a custom chip designed by BFL

it's a altera atratix3 EP3SL150F780 FPGA.

so goodluck BFL talking yourselves out of your websites quote for last 11 months:
quote: Butterfly Labs manufactures a line of high speed encryption processors for use in research, telecommunication and security applications.

if you cannot design a custom chip and need to import it at FPGA level. then designing a ASIC chip will be even harder to produce.

would love to see their dust free lab where they make their chips..

<wait for inaba's standard flaming waffles of ASCII characters without counter-proof in reply>

16453  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Super-fast access to 'offline' coins. on: September 21, 2012, 03:03:21 PM
i stil cant see why anyone would put a wallet with actual coins on the server the web service is on.

learn API calls..API call info to and from an offline wallet, dont have your wallets on the server.
this prevents hackers just grabbing the funds direct from the server.

api calls take miliseconds from and to remote locations so why have a wallet on the same server as your website.

you dont even have to put in ur offline wallets IP address into an API call in the servers source code to allow it to withdraw funds. this stops hackers finding the IP address after hacking server and viewing sourcecode, to then go hack the offline wallets location.

say for instance your making a currency exchange site requiring deposits and withdrawals
(from this point i use the term 'Home' to refer to the remote location of offline wallet. where 'Home' also has programs and scripts to talk to wallet client and other snazzy scripts)
step 1
'Home' already has a list of ID numbers set up with empty deposit addresses ready for new registrations and uploads them to servers DB (adding 100 new ID's as they slowly all get used)
as people register their username EG Franky1 is then linked to an IDx1234

(server log in page asks for username, password and email)
server stores username and password on server in encrypted form but not the email address. It simply sends a confirm email to user as part of the registration script but doesnt store email address once script ends.

step 2
user receives the confirm message "please hit reply and place your prefered withdrawal address in the subject line"

step 3
'Home' has access to email so when server tells users to confirm email 'home' stores confirmed email and withdrawal address

step 4
as deposits get received, 'Home' then updates the server database to say EG: IDx1234 funds=10BTC

step 5
when a user requests a withdrawal server places this request into a 'task to do' database.
EG "IDx1234|withdraw=5BTC|status=awaitingconfirm"

step 6
'home' reads this database and sends the confirmed email address a message "reply with subject: Confirm withdrawal" updates database "status=confirmemailsent"
an email sender script is on the server, which the 'home' utilises to send confirm email so any header information will only show server details not 'home' details

step 7
'home' receives email allowing withdrawal, then sends the funds using the wallet and updates the database "transaction complete"

and thats it...........

the idea around this concept is that the server does not contact the 'home' server direct so no IP addresses are revealed and even email confirms will only show server info.
'home' talks TO the server using secret API access but never receives info direct from server.

thus not giving hackers easy access to the offline wallet.

API calls take miliseconds so why have wallet on the server?
16454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dead Man's Switch? on: September 20, 2012, 01:44:09 AM
dead man switch WTF...

easier to just keep private keys in a safety deposit box, or even just write the private key in your will and name whoever u want to receive it.

dead man switch ..pfffft lol lol
16455  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture? on: September 20, 2012, 12:58:50 AM

In a webcast the speaker would just be Sonny and Perhaps Josh. The questions would be submitted via the webcast (eg typed by people participating and listening) then moderated and handed off the the speaker to answer

good points
A webcast would be better. probably with a small video tour of the manufacturing facility. and have it given days in advance so the moderator has time to receive questions to vet them before BFL answers them. as i believe there would be many many questions.

so moderating them live would be harder to achieve and slow down the flow of the webcast. also it would give BFL time to prep for the kind of things their customers want answers to.

so hopefully there would not be a ' why do you need to know this ' reply.
16456  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture? on: September 19, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
INABA if ASICS are coming then treat this as a learning experience for any future ASICS BFL 'might' create.

EG if a ASICS v2 come out.

1) DO NOT !! take pre-orders until designs are finished and you have started production.
2) DO work out how much product can be made in a month ready for shipping and only make pre-orders for that months supply (maybe even a 1 per person to even the playing field and give a fair advantage to the masses)

offering pre-orders before product is finalised should not happen.
offering pre-orders before testing of product should not happen.
offering pre-orders before known production volume should not happen.
offering pre-orders before offering guaranteed delivery date should not happen (with exception to the delivery company being the cause)

so next new product you produce. make it, test it. realise you have 1000 units ready to ship at the end of the month. then offer pre orders for 1000 units with guaranteed delivery at month end (with exception to the delivery company being the cause of delays)

then you wont have so many people trying to figure out why all the short failings have been caused. hundreds of dollars in payments with no guarantee's should not be replied by the company rep's with (not verbatim)
'why do you need to know'
followed by
'your comments are fabrication, come back with facts'

if you refuse to supply facts, then don't reply disliking so called 'fabrications'.

be a COO for goodness sake not a minimum wage customer service rep.

i do hope any future projects  will use those 2 noted idea's concerning pre orders.

don't over promise and under commit. or you will have many unsatisfied customers and potential customers.

and on a side note. Why did butterfly labs website not allow refunds until January? why January specifically (separate question)?
to be able to refund a pre-order you have to allow refunds before the shipping date to ensure product is not shipped after customer gets their refund. hence the word pre as oppose to post order refund.

this post will be copied to your message box so it wont be ignored.

<wait for reply on the thread>
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109349.msg1205022#msg1205022
16457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [bitconf] State of the Coin 2012 on: September 19, 2012, 05:34:06 AM
From the paper:

"Users: Difficult to estimate, but probably over 500,000 at this point."

How was it possible to assess this? Number of IPs? Number of addresses? Number of transactions?

Blatant guessing, based on:  number of claimed mtgox users, number of peer nodes on network, number of forum users, previous data posts around here, ...

Not a reliable number at all.  Just trying to find a number that we could say "probably over X"



many graphs around.. but when it comes to regular users in the last year only about 20k of people online daily..


using such things as user numbers / of mtgox and bitcoinchat is not a good way to assess the population. Due to scammers making alias's, 'white knight' whistle blowers not wanting their original persona posting threads, many other reasons including forgetting passwords when using temporary emails to sign up.. the user account number compared to actual people would not be the same.

the chart above came from
http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/
which has numerous charts to look at which should aid estimation of the population of the crypto community

it also shows the downward curve of user numbers in the last year. which might explain the slowing down of confirmation speeds, as their aint as many people to confirm.

guess bitcoinia and other items in the last year did scare people away
16458  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture? on: September 19, 2012, 05:00:20 AM
Also, could BFL comment on the following condition of Sonny's probation?
Quote
3. The defendant shall not engage, as whole or partial owner, employee or otherwise, in any business involving loan programs, gambling or gaming activities, telemarketing activities, investment programs or any other business involving the solicitation of funds or cold-calls to customers without the express approval of the Probation Officer prior to engagement in such employment. Further, the defendant shall provide the Probation Officer with access to any and all business records, client lists and other records pertaining to the operation of any business owned, in whole or in part, by the defendant, as directed by the Probation Officer

Has Sonny turned over any client lists or business records pertaining to BFL to his probation officer?

+1
16459  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture? on: September 19, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
chris V photography is indeed in kansas MO (so is butterfly labs)
his photography business address
2507 Jefferson St, Kansas City, MO 64108

less then 1.5k from butterfly labs chambers loft apartment complex is.

plausable reason - not confirmed, so just theory..
i think when the mess up with admitting they were the defaulted biotech company. they quickly got an agent in wyoming (nancy) to buy up the name.

just a shame investigations begun before the name buy up.. kinda hard to hide their original slip up.

ill wait for INABA and chris's replies..

while we wait. another of miner screen shot for humour

this time its mining bicycles.

i post these humour images to show its not that hard to show one thing but mean another. after all butterfly labs could be rebranding icurus (just an example not a suggestion) FPGA boards, making a mining farm and then saying their whole farm is actually one single ASIC.

atleast some honesty when requesting hundreds of dollars should occur..

lets just wait for the waffles of paragraphs avoiding answers.
16460  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL SC / Jally first picture? on: September 18, 2012, 11:13:20 PM

You say they defaulted last year, but the Wyoming Secretary of State website shows them having filed an annual report just about two weeks ago.  It also clearly shows the only listed executive of the company as Chris Vleisides at 2507 Jefferson St. in KC, MO.  He is apparently a professional photographer as you said (here's his website).  I don't think it's a just a coincidence that Butterfly Labs and Chris Vleisides are both in Kansas City, Missouri.


BF labs (the biotech company) existed at the time of first investigating butterfly labs in december 2011.. the file number showed they defaulted.. (again during in investigations in 2011)

but in 2012 chris Vleisides the photographer bought up that listing for $50.

the rest of the info about you finding chris's photography website is correct. i have not dug into any criminal past's of him or relatives. but the point is that butterfly is not a biotech company of 2011 or the photography company of 2012 which butterfly labs previously pretended to be in many threads over the last 10 months

i am currently contactng chris to varify any knowledge he has concerning butterfly labs. to either validate butterflies claims. maybe where chris's day job is a photographer and does some work for butterfly on the side. who knows.. we wil find out.
if Chris replies that he has no associations with butterfly. then butterfly will need to back up their claims of being an honourable, cryptography processor manufacturer. (yep that's a claim they make the microchips) instead of being a 'living room' FPGA re branding business.

i amongst others would trust them more if they atleast started off by saying that instead of this incorporation, trademarks, intellectual property, patent waffle which holds no water at all on public record.

unless they provide such public records

hope my screenshot of inaba's hampster miner broke the seriousness of this thread with a bit oh humor while i wait for inaba's next waffle of ASCII characters to avoid providing answers.
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