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3141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin scaling war explained in simple terms on: July 17, 2017, 01:34:28 AM
So, it just like you've mentioned ;  social drama of distraction. Cheesy
I assume ; segwit is a good thing then nothing, as the solution for bitcoin problems, am I wrong?
If segwit could be activated and it works, it will be like litecoin last month, the price will 'skyrocket' in August then.
It's a pain relief to know that current drop is just a bait to lure more cheaper coins, before we're going to over $3000, isn't it?

segwit doesnt solve anything. it 'voluntarily enables'.. which is a different thing
the "activation" solves nothing.
its all about keypair utility/functionality.. which only if the majority of people move funds to segwit keypairs after activation that something could happen.
funny part is litecoin activated yet the pools that supported litecoins activation are not actually using segwit keypairs.

segwit activation does not make malleation impossible
segwit activation does not make quadratics impossible
segwit activation does not make scaled growth guaranteed.

research the keypair utility after activation to get the real facts about segwits "promises"

all the activation does is change the network topology from peer-to-peer same level.. to a tier network of upstream 'filter/bridge' fullnodes(seeds) and down stream 'filtered/stripped' nodes(leachers)

as for price drama
follow (the karate kids)Mr miagi's advice for painting a fence "up, down, up down, up down"
3142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin scaling war explained in simple terms on: July 17, 2017, 12:35:34 AM
Most people don't know, should we support segwit or segwit2x Huh But at least all of us want bitcoin problem be solved.
And bad news about hard fork has been doing so well to frighten people which make traders easily play with the market price, and bitcoin price continue to decline.
Glad to see you around franky1,
There are a lot of uncertain news at the moment regarding segwit-BIP141 and segwit2x-BIP91, which one do you think will be activated franky1? As I've seen at https://coin.dance/blocks, it seems segwit2x support has reach over 87%.
Whether it will be segwit or segwit2x, what the advantages and disadvantages of both of it in your opinion? Thank you for sharing with us.

in short

segwit2x is suppose to at 80% trigger to kill off the opposition pools to then get a 95% (fake) display to trigger the bip9 (141))

as for the baseblock2x aspect.. thats something to occur 3 months after IF the majority is running sgwit2x nodes..

in very short segwit 2x is a bait and switch by BScartel to push segwit to activate way before november. and then leave the empty hope of a 2x base block..

same story as late 2015
3143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin scaling war explained in simple terms on: July 16, 2017, 11:02:43 PM
Be aware of the fact that everyone involved in the hardfork is a direct enemy of bitcoin.

hard forks are not dangerous or enemies of bitcoin. as long as the hard fork actually uses the full symbiotic consensus to enable a hard fork.
segwit whether bip9 or any other bip has avoided a proper consensus.. yep even sgwit2x is avoiding true consensus.

softforks can cause a bilateral split just as much as a hard for can.

soft bypasses certain symbiotic vote/veto where as hard utilities full symbiotic relationship vote/veto.

the issues of splitting or not splitting is not soft or hard.. its simply consensus vs controversial. and whether the controverts either giving and join majority or go on a ban-hammer session of dis-communicating opposing nodes to keep their minority alive(can happen soft or hard)

its worth people actually running scenario's instead of script reading from reddit
3144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin scaling war explained in simple terms on: July 16, 2017, 09:46:35 PM
LJR actually wants SW because LJR makes money through merge mining and wants all the exploits available to get sidechains running to merge mine many coins and get lots of funds that most pool customers dont realise are possible to get from mining

Gmax wants SW+LN without a base block increase. because he wants the onchain fee to grow to allow all the BScartell LN hubs to charge more per LN 'payment' so that barry can recoup money from all the investments of his portfolio including blockstram and bloq.
EG if onchain was 10c LNwould have to charge 0.01cent.. but if onchain was $2 LN could charge 1cent and people would be somewhat "happy"

the gavin vs blockstream is just social drama of distraction trying to assume gavin became corporatised while cor secretly(back then) was the actual group becoming corporatised..
(standard point in opposite direction distraction technique)
3145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Garzik's segwit2x market field data needs an update on: July 16, 2017, 05:28:28 PM
It doesn't when the hardfork is. The segwit2x could be 10 years from now, doesn't change the fact that segwit2x is shit and Jeff Garzik is working in anti-privacy tools, which means his agenda goes against a privacy-friendly bitcoin. No one on segwit2x team has demonstrated to be worth shit, they are just copy-pasting Core's code. Also, 6 month is NOTHING for a hardfork rushed with shitty code.

you cant read code. or you would know 6 months is a magical number you plucked out of your head from nowhere

please stop readding reddit.. its not good for your mental health
3146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Garzik's segwit2x market field data needs an update on: July 16, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
People don't give a fuck about segwit, the price crash is because of the risk of 2 bitcoins being created

the only drama for the next 3 months+ is segwit.
3147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After Aug 1st and SegWit on: July 16, 2017, 03:40:04 AM
 remember just 18 months ago, the community was promised segwit. being backward compatible..  now even the ones promising "backward compatibility and no harm to the network" are screaming that activating it will cause a split.... and gasping at anyone who has not updated

so 18 months since then. i remain laughing at the empty promises that keep bubbling up to the surface in regards to segwit
3148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don't see why big blocks are a problem, even 10 MB blocks right now aren't. on: July 16, 2017, 01:50:29 AM
I wonder whether franky agrees with the idea of $20k as the entry cost for nodes. Franky, show yourself.

$20k entry costs.. pfft.. (im laughing)

oh lauda u are drinking the reddit "gigabytes my midnight" koolaid again

PLLLEEAAASSSEEE learn consensus
hint. if majority of nodes cant cope with XXXmb they wont upgrade to it. thus the network wont accept XXXmb blocks

no one is saying gigabytes by midnight rationally (apart from your FUD'Friends)

the network can grow naturally OVERTIME using consensus. it does not need blockstream halting blocksizes and using fud
the network can grow naturally OVERTIME using consensus. it does not need blockstream avoiding consensus and trying to slip in corporate code in via soft exploits

ask yourself why are your friends screaming scripts repeatedly about gigabytes by midnight but avoiding rational thoughts of 2mb this year and natural growth over time...

as for segwit.
go ask the litecoinpools that 'supposedly' support segwit, why are they too afraid to even use segwit keypairs themselves

please put ur ego aside and learn consensus
and next time you get an image lauda,, dont just spam it.. read it, study it, understand it and realise its flaws... i did try to teach you this lesson with segwit back in early 2016
3149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don't see why big blocks are a problem, even 10 MB blocks right now aren't. on: July 16, 2017, 01:38:24 AM
when lauda cant prove anything he just cries shill or screams "nonsensical" or ad-hom

nothing new

anyway he cant explain the maths of the graphic and instead just attacks with "shill"
i think lauda should go back to scamming people by charging them fee's to be an escrow just to recover their own funds. rather than do anything actually technical to fix issues.
yep lauda cant even be arsed to report bugs that earn him money, he prefers bugs because he can scam money out of people through it

lauda cant even answer or even realise that the BScartel he adores so much are the ones linked to the banks

ask blockstream to speak to their boss barry silbert about his brother allen
ask bloq to speak to their boss barrysilbert about his brother allen

lauda cant even explain the ram calculations and even independantly thinkk for himself why that images maths of ram usage is wrong

all this segwit drama and finger pointing of social drama and lauda cant even wade through it to see whats hidden beneath. all he does is post his empty spoonfed crap from his "friends" becuase he trusts them

3150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Garzik's segwit2x market field data needs an update on: July 15, 2017, 05:23:41 PM
We have broken major resistance points,

you wouldnt understand a resistance point even if one was to hit you like a wall

funny that the timing of the drop has nothing to do with anything 2x related.
the only drama for the next 3 months+ is segwit.
its all just pointing fingers away from bscartel by pretending certain people are not bscartel even when they are, purely to create social distractions to make people not look at the real stuff behind the scenes

try to do some learning and research away from reddit. you might actually learn something rather than repeating something.
this is not school. repeating what your told to repeat and learning the truth are 2 different things
3151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Garzik's segwit2x market field data needs an update on: July 15, 2017, 05:08:18 PM
SegWit2x is a big big mess! Never ever will I run this shitty client!
To me Garzik is a traitor like Ver, Andresen and all the other dummies from the megablocker side!
True Bitcoiners will go with the 'punks and not the corporate bodies who will make it completely worthless.
However I'm convinced the ones who are contributing to Bitcoin for more than 8 years now will have the overwhelming majority of users supporting them.Therefore I'll take advantage of the actual situation and pick up those coins left by weak hands.

dont get fooled by the social drama
garzic and gavin are still part of the BScartel

if you love the bscartel that i guess it makes you the dummy for hating ur own "friends"
also gavin was involved BEFORE gmax and before the other bscartel. infact the github repo gmax and bscartel are using is gavins that started in august 2009
and is not a continuation from satoshi's

satoshi used sourceforge only

so as i said its all just social drama.
need proof?
http://dcg.co/portfolio/#b
blockstream
bloq
bitpay

all part of bscartel..

have a nice day
3152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Garzik's segwit2x market field data needs an update on: July 15, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
wow

pereira4
when price goes up, silence.. when price goes down blame someone thats not blockstream...

how about instead of crying and trying to blame someone when the price drops.. start getting excited and start shouting "discount day"

i really do love seeing everyone get so dramatic over small temporary and meaningless price movements
3153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JarzikCoin aka segwit2xCoin exposed: trying to get KYC crap on the code on: July 15, 2017, 01:42:44 AM
DNS hardcode seeds is hard ...  
this will clear the problem andre
If you don't like the seeds, simply download the code yourself, change the seeds to whatever you like and then compile. It's that easy.  Roll Eyes

the "hard" part is you cant really change things at runtime
3154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JarzikCoin aka segwit2xCoin exposed: trying to get KYC crap on the code on: July 15, 2017, 12:10:45 AM
It seems like this seeds enables the blockchain to reveal our identities just like how they track the illegal torrent users. Are we some kind of criminals, why are they adding crap in bitcoin ? That would not be bitcoin anymore but rather will be something like ETH. The original purpose of bitcoin was to send and receive transactions anonymously this is a huge turn off for bitcoin users as they use BTC because of it's decentralized feature. The devs or whoever controlling it behind should probably reconsider this implementation.

just worked that out??

funny how when blockstream had the DNS seeds everyone was kissing their ass..
now blockstream doesnt everyone starts having rational thoughts

the only issue with not having DNS seeds is that a node would have to ping every single IP address there is, until it got a response saying a bitcoin node exists on such ip address

i kinda prefered the days that the dns seed was an IRC channel rather than a cartels website
3155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JarzikCoin aka segwit2xCoin exposed: trying to get KYC crap on the code on: July 14, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
lol awwwww blockstream employees cant own bitcoin(the network).


but what pereira4 doesnt realise is that Bloq employees are paid by.... the same people that pay blockstream employee's

so effectively
barry silbert still owns bitcoins main mechanisms.

atleast pereira4 will still get to back the same team(once he follows the money back far enough).
its semi-subdefuge because he is causing empty drama knowing that all his finger pointing is just distractions, where ultimately the same puppet master has the same control

maybe it will sort blockstream out to be more part of the community by them joining the community because from what i can see blockstream love the segwit part of segwitx2 but as soon as segwitx2 activates the segwit element, their blockstream seeds will block and abandon nodes that want the 2x part.

now blockstream have to up their game and add the x2 code to then be allowed to be dns seeds.. otherwise blockstream lose out
3156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Definition 1: A Real Bitcoin USER is a MINER / RACER! on: July 14, 2017, 06:24:46 PM
ok simple questions about all those who falsely believe having funds alone is meaningful

1. satoshi has ~800k coins does that mean we should stay strictly to the rules of his 0.3 implementations

2. i have a few thousand. does that automatically mean just by having coin that my opinion means more then others who have less

or..
do people care more about the content of people opinion and the context of what people thoughts on future direction have on other users.. rather than their wallet holding

....

in my view bitcoin protocol does not care who is the owner of said coins. its pseudonymous afteral. the protocol is about CODE security which is only secured by nodes, asics and pools.

bitcoin is not secured by stake.. and many people need to realise. bitcoin is not a weak PoS coin.
3157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Unlimited(Futures) Coin on: July 14, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Can someone tell me what this coin is? Its no 780 on Coin Market Cap. Is this the BTC fork? Or someone is just wanting to cause confusion and possible scam ignorant investors?

bitcoin unlimited does not have code to activate mandatorily... it will only ever activate if there was majority consensus. meaning it becomes btc

so the 'token' on the exchange is not a coin with its own nodes. its just a 'token' on an exchange, in short just a entry on an exchanges database and does not exist outside of the exchange. and should not be treated seriously.

many people think of it as an unbacked gambling game. but basically its just to scam ignorant investors so exchanges can get their % cut of trade fee from people trading in this vapour token
3158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don't see why big blocks are a problem, even 10 MB blocks right now aren't. on: July 14, 2017, 04:43:48 AM
dont worry about lauda. he admitted last year that he hasnt even read a line of code, and also doesnt know how long it takes to sync to the network.
Incoherent statements by someone who did not read the code themselves. Ironic.
lauda just to remind you bitcoin is wrote in C++ not java
http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2016/01/17#l1453062298.0
"20:24    Lauda    Bitcoin does not use Java right?"


i believe he runs a node using amazon server and wants to cry about the cost of bandwidth (amazon subscription costs) but has no clue about computer costs, stats, utility.
Which is absolute nonsense and something which you could not possibly know.

http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2016/01/17#l1453064029.0
20:53    phantomcircuit    Lauda, it would take ~12 days to synchronize from the wifi here at 1MB
21:04    Lauda    phantomcircuit 12 days..?
21:17    Lauda    That seems like quite long.
21:17    Rebroad    Lauda, anyway, 12 days is not a long time for someone wanting to run a full-node... I mean, what's the rush?!
21:17    Lauda    That's almost half a month.. it is long to set up one.
21:17    Rebroad    Lauda, yes, but why the rush?
21:18    belcher    time is money
21:18    Lauda    Exactly.

21:18    Rebroad    belcher, running a full node doesn't make money
21:18    belcher    Rebroad if you're using bitcoin instead of some other currency, presumably its valuable to you
21:18    Lauda    You lose money waiting.
21:18    belcher    it doesnt make you "money" per se but theres still economic value in it
21:18    Rebroad    Lauda, how would you lose money?
21:18    Lauda    If you're paying for a VPS
21:19    Lauda    12 days of lost money.

21:19    Rebroad    Lauda, if you're running a full node, it'll cost you the same to run it no matter how long it takes to download the blockchain
21:19    Lauda    Imagine compiling code that takes 12 days instead of 1?
21:19    Lauda    No time lost?
21:20    Rebroad    Lauda, belcher, I don't think you understand what motivates people to run full-nodes
21:20    Lauda    ...
21:20    Lauda    you're weird.
21:20    Rebroad    Lauda, you've still now answered my question. Rush to do what?
21:20    Lauda    Time is valuable, time should not be wasted unless necessary.
21:21    Rebroad    Lauda, you could argue that running a full-node IS a waste of time... it's either a waste of time to run it, or it isn't... but running it involves downoading the blockchain.. it's part and parcel of running a full-node
21:22    Lauda    I wouldn't bother setting up a node that takes 12 days to set up.
21:22    Lauda    No way.

21:23    Lauda    Imagine a situation where user has no full node, they need it for reason X to use Y
21:23    Lauda    so wait 12 days before using it?

he tries hard to sound like an expert who cough gets paid to consult cough. yet loves penny grabbing his sig campaign schemes and charging people for things they can do themselves.
If anyone is an expert here, it ain't you, nor the duo of j-degenerates.
lauda, go spend more time reading reference material and less time on reddit propoganda scripts.
its proven time and time again that you failed the basics..

even now you cant explain the tier network, upstream filters, and why segwit keypair utility is not possible to test on mainnet now, even when everything is supposedly (in your eyes) backward compatible..
reminder: i gave you a hint april 2016


anyway. getting back on point of the topic:

as for the graphic of statistics lauda has pasted several times.. does he even know maths to actually check before pasting
EG
blocks 0.5mb.....graphic shows 6.2gb daily traffic.............. (facepalm)
..........
hint: there are only 144 blocks a day you dont even need a calculator to do the maths (hint: number in graphic is out by 86 multiples)
and dont even gt me started on the facepalming of ram in that graphic
3159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Definition 1: A Real Bitcoin USER is a MINER on: July 14, 2017, 03:22:08 AM
In other news, Walmart shoppers are trolls

i was curious so google image searched "walmart shopper"
hmmm..

i dont think ill be eating dinner tonight after seeing what i seen
(this post is made purely for humour purposes)
3160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don't see why big blocks are a problem, even 10 MB blocks right now aren't. on: July 14, 2017, 03:07:59 AM
dont worry about lauda. he admitted last year that he hasnt even read a line of code, and also doesnt know how long it takes to sync to the network.

i believe he runs a node using amazon server and wants to cry about the cost of bandwidth (amazon subscription costs) but has no clue about computer costs, stats, utility.
he takes things out of context alot because of all the reddit scripts he gets spoonfed

he tries hard to sound like an expert who cough gets paid to consult cough. yet loves penny grabbing his sig campaign schemes and charging people for things they can do themselves.

i feel sorry for him as he seems to have wasted the last few years not learning the real utility of bitcoin and is just penny grabbing to stay afloat
i tried helping him but then he just cries "walls of text".. so you cant teach an old cat new tricks
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