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3401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
there are issues with all the bips dooMAD highlighted and coloured..

EG the 106 bip..
there is no need for a consensus rule to go down..

think of blocksize like a hard drive or ram..
even if you have X size.. the actual blocks created do not need to be x size.
nor do you need to downgrade your ram or hard drive if you dont fill the space

for instance lets say you had a 5 terrabyte hard drive.., if in 2 years you only fill 500gb of it, doesnt mean you have to downgrade your hard drive.
you keep the upper limit as is and just not use the spare space.


Eg if a dynamic blocksize went up to 4mb.. pools can just make low demand 1mb blocks after while keeping the 4mb limit..
dropping the limit can cause technical issues like. if a consensus rule drops to 1.5mb .. then any block created over 1.5mb previously when the limit was 4mb could end up getting orphaned and literally ripping out months of historic blocks.

another way to think about it.
imagine it was a 1mb (todays situation but with dynamics). and suddenly pools done empty blocks to make the 1mb rule drop to 0.25mb... suddenly all blocks after 2011 get orphaned due to those blocks being over 0.25mb

much simpler to leave the rule at whatever dynamic size it went UPTO and just let pools make blocks at whatever size below that limit
atleast from a technical point blocks wont get orphaned
3402  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 02:34:28 PM
He's made it well known he supports BU.

many said in 2014 i supported xt, then it was classic, then it was something else now its BU..

short story, just because i despise the BS cartel does not mean there is only one other option..

things like dynamics are not a patent or product of BU.. many different implementations have and can use dynamics.
once you stop reading reddit and start doing proper research you will start to see the bigger picture

if the only options you can see is people belonging to brands... you have failed to understand the purpose of what bitcoin was invented for.
if the only options you can see is people belonging to brands... then you might aswell go play with paypal

anyway to rein the topic back....
what is the big deal if jihan does make an alt..
isnt that exactly what the bscartel sheep have been screaming for in the first place.. for anything not bscartel to "f**k off"
3403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
seems you think there is only option BScoin or option jihan coin

It's time to choose, time to choose

i see it as just temporary drama of finger pointing.

best option i can see

Bscartel and their sheep jump over to litecoin and stop pulling the bitcoin puppet strings and take all their drama with them to litecoin.org

and then those that want proper bitcoin as it was intended where no one has control, where consensus is the mechanism of upgrades and growth can carry on as if it was pre 2014 again(pre corporate drama)
3404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
So you support status quo? I thought you were a big blocker...

status quo?

damn you really have been hypnotised
seems you think there is only option BScoin or option jihan coin.

i think its time you put reddit on your blocked site list, for your own mental health sake
3405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 12:38:45 PM
@franky1

Even if the blockstream conspiracy was true I still don't understand how you would prefer a Jihancoin?

funny part is i dont..

jihan coin is an altcoin..

even jihan admits he is crating an altcoin..

im for sticking with a real decentralise distributed no control bitcoin..

not BScoin
not jihancoin

anyway, jihancoin is the exact thing the BScartel have been crying, begging and demanding anything not bscartel to do ('f**k off')
but i do laugh where people now panic and worry and blame the non bscartel for going in a different direction even after the bscartel sheep begged for it for years..


even funnier part is that people are stupid enough to think is BScartels way or another brands way...
stupid fools forget that bitcoin is meant to work without brands owning controlling bitcoin.

stupid fools think because i hate brand BS must mean i want brand _

which is where they fail every year to pidgeon hole me into any group they can use to distract the real centralisation

in short i do not belong to any corp.. but some small minded people cannot conceive such a notion that bitcoin can survive without corporate puppeteers
3406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 12:17:31 PM
blah blah blah...blockstream.... blah, blah, blah....blockstream...
you are very boring dude. You must find something different.

seems you want to keep your head in the sand and ignore it even when dcg admit they have ownership of the exchanges.

P.S you will never be a firefighter if you check for fire by sticking your head in the sand. all you will do is get your ass burned

go read any article on coindesk talking about exchanges and you will see it
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Coinbase.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Xapo.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in BTCC.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Circle.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Paxos.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in Ripple.
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which has an ownership stake in BitOasis, Coinbase, Korbit, ShapeShift and Zcash.

here is the kicker
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Disclosure: CoinDesk is a subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which helped organize the SegWit2x proposal. DCG also has an ownership stake in Abra, Blockstream and Bloq.
http://www.coindesk.com/bip-148-segwit2x-bitcoin-scaling-compromise-might-not-easy/
3407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 16, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
What if the late game boss isn't Jihan or Roger? What if they are only puppets? What if we are fighting against a central bank? And what if this bank is located in China?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-15/peoples-bank-china-manipulating-bitcoin-price

lol typical misdirecting...

guess who puppet masters the exchanges
btc china's exchange
coinbase
itbit
korbit
kraken

answer:
DCG.co/portfolio
(bscartel)
3408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP148 Coin/Token? on: June 16, 2017, 02:50:56 AM
BSCoin2

bip9 = BScoin1

We will have Segwit and there is nothing you can do about it. Making walls of text at Bitcointalk is a pure waste of youre time and energy.

never a waste of time

atleast revealing the bscartels plans and strategies and fud will in the future be a good history lesson to people who wondered what went wrong when something open become corporatised.
3409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BIP148 Coin/Token? on: June 16, 2017, 02:10:51 AM
BSCoin2

bip9 = BScoin1
3410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JIHAN on: June 16, 2017, 01:40:39 AM
I have seen you post here over the years, I wonder, do you post on Steemit at all? Almost every post you ever make seems to have a lot of information on it. If you don't post on Steemit you should, you make money from upvotes/reshares and stuff.

Or do you just like hanging out here? Personally I think this place is ok, but there is no creativity here.

i dont need to get paid to voice my opinion. i just try my best to clear out the reddit scripted fud and get people to look outside the BScartel echo chamber box to see the bigger picture that most cannot see
3411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Core Developers trying to scam us by shorting bitcoin? on: June 16, 2017, 01:32:03 AM
the secret is that the Barry silbert meeting in New York Agreement on May 24th, 2017 was just another "get segwit activated" campaign.

but the trick this time.. pretend this latest bip is not core/blockstream endorsed. by shouting loudly how "they didnt turn up"..
its called a bait and switch..

BScartel are just offering the same 2015 promise that was offered in a late 2015 meeting funded and chaired by the same 'sponsors'

but the hope this time is by pretending its not endorsed by core/blockstream. it would hope that those who despise the BScartel would actually agree to it.. not realising its just the same roadmap as before..

yet by taking the shrouded covering off the bait and switch... its all the same. and core/blockstream are endorsing it but will play the mind games to try tricking their opposition

funniest part. Gmaxwell revealed his hands tooo soon
1. pretends to not want UASF but as founder of blockstream, employs samson mow
2. pretends to be against splitting the network. but begged opposition to bilaterally split last year

3412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JIHAN on: June 16, 2017, 12:46:08 AM
if you're as dedicated as the guy above then you too can enjoy a nice salary from jihan. write a few million words on here and then hit jihan up on twitter. you'll get a nice windfall.

i dont get paid by jihan nor anyone else.. im self sustainable..
my thoughts are my own.

i dont go to reddit, nor twitter.. thats just the echo chambers of FUD and distraction

but its funny that when people cannot debunk my content, they resort to name calling and trying to say the content must be wrong by pretending its paid for content (propaganda)

but if anyone is serious about researching the truth, does their own checks.. they would see the same truth..

however there are many 'core volunteers' hoping to kiss BScartel ass hoping one day to no longer be treated as an intern and instead get a salary.. which is where i feel their mindset of thinking i must get paid comes from.

my motives are simple. im not looking for stupid gimmicks to push bitcoin into un-usability while pushing the price up into some bubble.. i want bitcoin (not offchain/sidechain), emphasis bitcoin, to naturally grow without half promises, without bait and switch gestures of hope.. but actual real growth.
3413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JIHAN on: June 16, 2017, 12:33:09 AM
basically a guy that manages bitmain.
his pool (antpool) has ~17% hashpower.

yet all the core supporters(blockstreamists) blindly think that jihan controls bitcoin.

its all a finger pointing game to make people blame one guy to distract attention away from the real control.

my best advice is to stay away from reddit as thats just where you will find the hallucinating scripts the BSCartel are spoonfeeding their flock of sheep.

instead look at the real controls of bitcoin

http://dcg.co/portfolio/
which is headed up by BS (barry silbert) and alan silbert.

this is where you will find the buzzword of BScoin, BScartel, blockstreamers

yep the DCG group (aka BSCartel) - which is the strongarm of core.. and also the guys that want to push through their 2014 altcoin elements:segwit into bitcoin and will do anything they can to get it
first a voluntary adoption (bip9) which only received 30% votes.. which kicked off the whole jihan is against segwit... even thogh jihan only controls ~17% not ~70%
then it became things like UASF, UAHF and other things too
even a segwit2mb.. which pretends to be a non BScartel development.. but by following the DCG portfolio, shows where all the puppet strings draw back to
3414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 11:36:29 PM
Roger Ver says today that Satoshi has done an bitcoin ico

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCX0wL3XUAANOFV.jpg

post like that shows and the low quality of that persons. This guys are so stupid and arrogance that not even release that the majority in bitcoin community hate them and a red flag for everyone.

actually what you will find is that although bitcoins first 'coin release' was in january 2009..
satoshi sent out emails in mid to late 2008 seeking anyone who might be interested in being involved in bitcoin.

In fact I believe it was me who got Wei Dai's b-money reference added to Satoshi's bitcoin paper when he emailed me about hashcash back in 2008.  If like Hal Finney I'd actually tried to run the miner back then, I may too be sitting on some genesis/bootstrap era coins.

genesis/bootstrap era coins.=initial coin offering
3415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another successful short by Jihan & Ver on: June 15, 2017, 09:37:57 PM
lol bitcoin price going down because the BScoiners are telling people that LTC is the future

If it is so, why aren't we seeing an LTC pump right now. LTC has also went down along BTC, just not so much.

Their posts from May 5 and May 12. Those users had their agenda at that time and did not care about the Bitcoin price back then. But now they angry at someone else affecting the Bitcoin price?

im laughing..
i havnt cared about the price in a long time. im hoarding bitcoin for the long haul so the daily drama of prices is more about laughing at who is blaming who for what..

the funny part is that moving the bitcoin price does not take much effort
ive seen trades where the price drops using orders of 0.011btc (under $30)

the real reasons the price is volatile is because there is not much in the way of resistance walls, not much order line volume

i remember a few years back it required 500+btc to move the price a small amount now it can be done with hardly any btc.. and although there are more bitcoins in circulation. there are hardly any on exchanges.

most of this is due to AML/KYC.. 'we been hacked' scams and also the tx fee making people not want to move funds into exchanges as much.

but hey i do love laughing at the fud where jihan is to blame for everything..

even though BScartel control most of the exchanges
3416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: And they say Bitmain is the miner we should be worried about... on: June 15, 2017, 07:46:31 PM
bitfury part of the BScoin cartel. old news

...

as for paying for development.
it was said long ago that BOUNTIES should be made.
if someone wants a feature, they BIP it and the bip creates a bitcoin address and funds collect from the community (crowdsource) to cover costs.

that way if the community want something they pay for it. if its not wanted it obviously doesnt get funded.

then the devs start to follow the direction the money flows.

however the Devs decided not to bitcoin crowdfund the developers. but instead fiat VC fund the developers.. and then follow the direction the fiat money flows.. which is in a different direction than bitcoins ethos
3417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another successful short by Jihan & Ver on: June 15, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
lol bitcoin price going down because the BScoiners are telling people that LTC is the future

just some examples

LTC will become a big deal in the future, as long as BTC can't get segwit.

People will move to LTC in order to make fast, instant, cheap transactions. BTC will remain the number #1 coin but LTC will easily go to $200 ish as more and more people catch up with the fact that right now LTC is the best coin to make transactions with.

BTC can profit from cross chain atomic thing in order to make fast cheap transactions thanks to LTC + segwit + LN.

bscoiners love to point fingers in every other direction and then try to play the victim.. while secretly their plan is doing what they want....
3418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what is SegWit's arbitrary discount rate of witness data segment on: June 15, 2017, 03:50:54 PM
You very well know that this is not true.  Bitcoin's security depends on proof of work, and the decentralization of those providing it.  Period.  Bitcoin has  a proof-of-work consensus, meaning, the consensus decisions (ALL decisions) in bitcoin are taken SOLELY by proof of work (mining).  Nobody else can decide anything else cryptographically/technically in bitcoin, not any "majority of full nodes" (too easy to Sybil) and bitcoin chose not to be a proof of stake coin, so stake holders have no cryptographic/technical decision power either.

you are soo soo wrong

even if a PoW hash is correct.
nodes can reject/orphan blocks for many reasons.. and they do.
Eg they reject blocks if a tx was maliciously added with no taint(no history)
Eg they reject blocks if a tx was maliciously added which brings the data limit above the size limit
Eg they reject blocks if a tx was maliciously added with no signature proof of ownership
and many other reasons

dino. please go do some research.. pools only collate data into a 'batch' of transactions known as a block.. they then get ASICS to form a special hash and secure it.. so its easy to spot if alterations are made later because the hashes wont match..

 its then the symbiotic network of nodes that then validate the block is good, honest and follows the rules where all the transactions held within are correct and the hashes match, amungst other things
3419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain announces plan to create altcoin if BIP148 succeeds on: June 15, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
hypocrisy from the BS cartel..
1A. bitmain veto BS roadmap due by wanting fee's by grabbing expensive transactions
1B. bitmain do 'empty blocks' thus dont get much fees

2A. bitmain veto BS roadmap.. BS cries they should f**k off and make an altcoin.
2B. bitmain announce making an altcoin and everyone cries they will split the network

3A. BS dont want to split the network
3B. BS employee the UASF network splitting promoter samson mow

4A. bitmain have 70% of the network.. bs tells everyone to panic
4B. bitmain have under 17% of the network.. bs tells everyone to not worry

4A. bitmain have 70% of the network panic
4B. bitmain can make an alt they only have small 17%

... i could go on
but all these hypocrit mindsets is just becoming comedy.. all done to take peoples eyes off the ball at where the real power /centralisation is occuring.. the BS cartel

Bscartell is just pointing fingers and saying 'hey look at the 17%.."  ignore the 50% abstain. and ignore 30 bs cartel
BS cartel want to split the network but they prefer someone else to cause it so the BScartel can play the victim card.
Gmaxwell reveaed their plan too early and spoiled the plan the BScartel wanted.

sorry bscartel, you cant play the victim while also becoming the centralised corp of bitcoin
all this obsession with bitmains 17% is becoming too obvious that its just distraction games
3420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ladies and Gentlemen, Bitcoin is about to be Centralized on: June 15, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
They are just on the look out for what they can't find. Master key my foot.

CORE = master key

its time we decentralise and distribute further by having MANY implementations of different programming languages to dilute CORE control
stop letting core make all the decisions.

if core wanted to do the right thing they would have

0.14.2A - segwit november 2017
0.14.2B - segwit november 2017+dynamic blocksize
0.14.2C - dynamic

and then let the whole community come to a consensus wher the other brands do something similar.
thus removing the brand drama and making the debate about which consensus is formed.

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