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7841  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Do you think there is a COVID treatment that is not available for all? on: July 28, 2021, 12:53:13 AM
covid does not amplify existing life threatening disease

its actually for some of those that died. their existing life threatening disease that amplified the lethality of covid

in short. having a weakened immune means your immune is not fighting. and not being switched off more.
but by being in a weakened state already. its not putting up the same fight as someone with a good immune system. and so the virus gets to replicate more.. and cause more lung damage until you suffocate

the weakened immune system does not suffocate you. the replicating virus unhindered damages your lungs and suffocate you..

.. anyway to the topic question

yes some tribal clinics in africa do not have equipment to run tests on viral loads to see the progress of incubation or the progress of recovery

some tribal clinics in africa dont have the scans to see if lung damage is minor or severe.
some hospitals dont have the needed oxygen supply to cater to all patients at peak
some clinics/hospitals dont have the staffing to have 1 nurse per patient to cater to all the patients needs
some dont even have the bed capacity

covid can cause issues with other organs needing ecmo to oxygen the body. some hospitals dont have enough of these

yes when things get tense and there is a over crowding of hospitals. doctors do have to do triage and rank people on survivability and who deserves most care.

there are cases where the old and the frail have been put onto do-not-resuscitate  orders. meaning they are left to succumb to the disease without intubation/life saving treatment

getting blood donations/platelet donation is a demand/supply problem aswell so in some cases yes its only given to those who need it most.
7842  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 27, 2021, 10:43:07 PM
Quite the opposite.
Covid was here for a long time before any large number of people were infected.

what are you saying
it was here before it was here??
it was infecting people before it was infecting people?

let me guess you were a born before you were born. you were talking to your parents and then you want up into your mothers womb

sorry but real life doesnt work like that

seems you spend too much time in the sci-fi section

as for numbers...

if say 90% of population had the vaccine and only 5% then get noticable symptoms
if say 10% are are unvaxxed and 40% have noticable symptoms

4.5% vaccinated and 4% without vaccine

but lets translate that out
if there are 90 people vaccinated and they went to a party and as friends. they found out 4or 5 of their friends had noticable covid.
if there are 10 people unvaccinated and they went to a party and as friends. they found out 4 of their friends had noticable covid.

the unvaxxed party has lost nearly half its guests.. now only 6 at the party
the vaxxed party continues on with 85 still at the party

but in hospital. it looks like more vaxxed people are in hospital.. but thats ONLY BECAUSE: more people are vaxxined

..
you might have had a topic of discussion if you understood the numbers.. but you dont.. so find a new topic
7843  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Doctor says mRNA vaccines “will kill most people” through heart failure on: July 27, 2021, 10:13:21 PM
it doesnt cure covid fast
the studies say it impacts the symptoms of the immune response.

..
here is the funny thing.
you want to advertise a pharma product that doesnt do what its meant to. for a use its not intended for..

hmmm.. sounds like your the guy angry at your own hypocrisy by saying certain treatments shouldnt be used even if they are intended "coz natural immunity will take care of it"

yes you want to suppress peoples immunity pretending the drug also kills covid(proven not to)
but something that can aid the immune system to kill covid you want banned..

seems you dont care about the immune system and just want to advertise a product not for for the job people want

are you really that dense to not even read your own influencers pitched opinions to you.
do you not take time to think about what your pillmill salesmen is selling you.
are you just on auto pilot re-publishing nonsense from pillmill doctors trying to make money

ivermectin does not kill viruses..
the closest it came.. was this
it stops the human cell function which leads to the human cell not being used as a factory
side effect is the human cells normal metabolism is shut off too
7844  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 27, 2021, 10:01:11 PM
...

Well clearly social distancing works. I know the diamond princess study accounted for all cases, I was saying that the WHO's prediction of the IFR didn't account for all cases, so we could've used the diamond princess study to better gauge the death rate.

who did not say it was 5-10x higher death rate.

the study
700 had it.. 330 asymptomatic
=370 people with symptoms as a comparator to general public case testing(case rate)
13 died = 3.5% cfr (13 of 370)

yes if you include the asymptomatic(not really tested in general public) the number is more like 1.8% death rate

so yes WHO did gauge the numbers right. as they knew not everyone in general public would be tested.
so they adjusted their numbers accordingly
CFR (death rate of recorded cases) was in the mid 3 range
IFR(death rate of all infection tested or not) was in the 1.5 range

as for the cases rate. knowing that not everyone would be tested and knowing lower viral load due to not in a contained vessel breathing over each other for weeks. they said that the case rate in general public is probably 5-10x more then the test positive numbers(because not everyone is getting tested)

in short.
if 53% have symptoms in a small confined area.
and say 10% have it in well ventilated self isolating no contact general public
then there would be a 5x difference

the only reason death numbers after april went below 1%.. was again.. social distancing

it was not because the virus was not deadly. it was that people were staying away to not get high viral loads from each other.
as seen when case and death rate and symptomatic rates went up when self isolation rules eased
and went back down when self isolation tightened up
7845  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 27, 2021, 08:01:40 PM
Depends which model you're talking about.

Recall back from when this fiasco began - a few of the more honest scientists produced a model (using model loosely, was more of a statistical analysis) to capture the real IFR of COVID using a closed system as the sample, the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w

Back when the world was preparing for Covid and still using faulty Chinese data, the WHO predicted that the death rate for Covid was something like 5-10x higher than the true Covid death rate, because they took the confirmed cases and created a ratio of the confirmed deaths. But the problem was, the sample did not account for all confirmed covid cases, because of course, not everyone that has covid gets accounted for.

the study of the diamond princess did account for every case. because EVERYONE was tested.
(easy to do on a cruise ship)

the thing is.
in a tight/cramped space with air circulating room to room. cases will be high and deaths will be high..
and guess what the first solution to bring down the case/death count was..
... yep social distancing..
and guess what..

case R rates went down and death severity went down
this is because general population are not clustered together in a confined area so less viral load so more people asymptomatic in general population.
and because general population are not tested as rigoursly as the diamond princess its suggestive that although case numbers were low in general populations instances. there are probably 5x more infectees, just not being tested due to lack of showing symptoms due to social distancing giving them low viral loads

so thank you for confirming why social distancing was a good thing. due to the diamond princess study you mentioned
7846  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 27, 2021, 07:55:55 PM
These 'models' are exactly what the whole global warming scam is based on just FWIW.  For a scientismist, the more wrong you are, the longer your life as an 'advisor' out of academia is, and the more funding you get.  You just have to make sure you are wrong in a way that favors the globalist's pet projects (like carbon taxes, economic shifts (e.g., moves to production to 'communist' China), etc.)

nah..  its actually.. the more wrong you are.. the more money you make out of acedemia. because you are busy selling your wrong opinions to conspiracy platforms
yes all them interviewed 'doctors' of family medicine pretending to know about viruses/immunity. but then selling anti-vax scripts/narratives. are not making money from academia as they have been ejected. and instead have to make some income from their lies and unbacked opinions. pretending its backed because they said it with their now expired credentials
7847  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Doctor says mRNA vaccines “will kill most people” through heart failure on: July 27, 2021, 07:47:09 PM

Pfizer supply agreement with Albania
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419653002818990085
Albanian website that has published it on January 2021
https://gogo.al/ekskluzive-kontrata-sekrete-e-qeverise-me-pfizer-per-vaksinat/

.. the link mentions
"any device, technology, or product used in the administration of or to enhance the use or effect of, such vaccine"

the blogger massively and falsly tries to make it sound like that statement is the reason why ivermectin is not used.. he is wrong
that statement is about vials, needles, syringes..

its the products that are used with the vaccine.. . again WITH THE VACCINE
its not to do with other treatments against the disease.

ivermectin is not used because its parasite killing properties do not convert over to virus killing properties. ivermectins secondary function as a immune response dampening. does work to dampen the immune response. meaning less symptoms of immune response. which is only good when its the immune system that has gone overboard
meaning not good to use it before an infection as it weaken your immune response. making you more atrisk to not fight the virus. its only good if/when the virus has been handled and then still overly symptomatic of immune system symptoms. then and only then give meds that have immune dampening features

in short. it is not a covid killer but is a immune response dampener.. so not a great treatment for covid pre covid nor during covid illness.

other meds are better at the post covid immune response stuff
7848  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The immune system explained on: July 27, 2021, 07:28:14 PM
I enjoyed this simplified explanation of the human immune system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGOcOUBi6s


you linked.. but did you listen.. im guessing not.
1:25-1:40
they start using the bodies resources to replicate
at first they fly under the radar.
but when certain numbers are reached they change their behaviour and start damaging the body
...
(which triggers the immune response)
this is where the novel pathogens is explained

the body has no memory B cells yet/alredy to strike early/fast on a new 'under the radar' pathogen
stage..

do you get it yet
watch the whole video where it says it takes 5 days to make and break helper cells. and then more days for the memory B
..
meaning first occurrence/interaction with a certain strain can affect you for a week+

its only then you may have memory B cells to sort out future battles sooner and faster (at the under radar stage)

..
the memory B cells. for say sars 2002 are not releasing the correct shape form antibodies to cling onto the spikes of covid before damage..

this is why. they talk about the incubation period of 5 days and then symptoms. because your body just is not reacting to covid for 5 days+

even super healthy full immune efficient healthy people take over a week to make the memory b cells for covid.

so stop thinking you covid immortal within 24 hours.

..
once you have recovered. you body then has immunity to covid. and you will notice the next infection is handled sooner and faster. you may even get new symptoms like a runny nose whereby your body has recognised the infection early and put antibodies in your mucus to clear out your nose and throat early

but it wont happen on a first occurance of a new pathogen
7849  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Observer on: July 26, 2021, 11:18:39 PM
or they're staking channels so they can sit around waiting for users to arrive.

yep this option
lots of services offering "free inbound balance" using 'stake' they locked months-years ago where the 'stake' is not locked to any onchain multisig funding tx between the service and the temporary channel user

offering temporary(30 day) and instant(no confirmed) inbound balance:- without any onchain activity needed
(there are many security flaws with this method, but i wont rant.. this time)
7850  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 26, 2021, 08:52:29 PM
But but but listen to ze experts and trust the science  Cool





is paid influencers with a title that makes them sound trusting

in modern times
would say 'many doctors of brand "frontline" say take daily parasite meds to dampen immune system because its good for you, saying they take it daily too..'

yes doctors/influencers advertising that a immune surpresser is of benefit are the ones you can tell were paid to sell a product rather than give facts

you can spot these paid shills because they say in most cases they have recently been let go from their medical role and are now 'speaking up' (accepting money for speaking roles)

so when you see an advert... oops i mean blog post/amateur video
ask yourself
is this "doctor" asking something of me involving me having to buy something regularly and take it daily

7851  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you a healthy unvaccinated person? on: July 26, 2021, 07:36:33 PM
you gotta laugh

a 70yo man saying he is avoiding a vaccine because be beleives he will be the clean specimen of proof in the future that the unvacinnated dont have...
'affects that have altered the ovaries of menstruating women'

yes he thinks that mrna change the genetics of menstruating woman..
..
firstly it doesnt
secondly he is a man
thirdly he is over 70

so he is not really prime candidate of non-vaccine speciman that will be used as proof that those without vaccine have perfectly healthy ovaries

..
as for any direct or even indirect proof of a link between vaccines and autistic kids..

well there is only this ..
austism is pretty much caused by family planning of having kids when parents are outside their prime fertile age.

the prime age being 16-36
under-age or over-age parenting..

. now how is this linked to vaccines
well pre-vaccine era of 1900's peoples life expectancy was 50. so at 40 they were planning retirement not family.
this 50yo average life expectancy was due to virus and disease,.

then vaccines came around. helping people live longer. upto 82yo life expectancy..
but then people in their 40's no longer able to retire..  decided to start having kids. but their sexual reproduction though is not in its prime. yea silly old nature.. not evolving the reproductive system

so they have kids, with a higher risk of defects due to having kids beyond their prime sexual reproductive systems age

and now people think its due to vaccines.
nope its due to people. thinking they can have kids even in their 40's-50's-60's

..
and the punchline is
jetcash saved off having vaccines with the hope that it will keep his sperm clean.. so he can have kids later in life... reality is waiting 70 years to lose his virginity most certainly will mean his offspring will have defects like autism..
because all along it was a age issue causing defects. not vaccines
yep he stayed clean and pure for so many years, just to find out waiting so long will be his flaw of why his kids will have defects
7852  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 26, 2021, 04:21:33 PM
the countries that didnt need to isolate within the borders, done so by controling it better AT the borders

again common sense.
australia/new zealand had a great policy and it worked.

but hey. some idiots dont get it.
they think the best way to control covid is to let it spread.
they dont understand that swedon, australia newzealand and korea stopped the spread at the borders by not doing loads of repatriation flights.
and by quarantining those coming in.


idiots think they let the virus come in and let it spread wild..
but hey idiots will be idiots. they cant even research why sweden was better than the us.

7853  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Olympics is a disaster on: July 26, 2021, 04:11:15 AM
athletes were quarantined pre-games and post-games
there is no "athlete aftergame party"
its back to the hotel room get swabbed for a few days before being allowed back on plane home

there is more chance of catching covid on the plane home than at the olympic stadium

..
that said. companies like cocacola who always sell millions of bottles at previous olympics. are not going to be making millions of dollars this year
instead they are paying out millions to have their logo showing around the stadium so that they can get viewed by viewers watching games on TV. hoping that turns into added world wide general sells

japan is not getting any revenue from tickets..
japan is getting TV licencing fees/deals

japan is left with alot of japanese themed olympic merchandise stock
stock thats not been sold at concessions stands/kiosks at the stadium
this will all end up on ebay sold cheap as memorabilia.. of a tv show some watched and not of real life experience anyone felt. so sold cheap and not all sold




7854  Economy / Economics / Re: Take a look at the future of Bitcoin from the gold standard system on: July 26, 2021, 03:19:10 AM
no your missing the point
its not about fiat attaining bitcoin as a fiat peg for bitcoin to become a world world reserve for all fiats..

bitcoin will never be the "one world fiat currency"
its meant for a second option away from fiat. not to be the only main fiat

my reply is about bitcoins future.. using the gold standard scenario of 1900-1970
OG bitcoiner devs stifled out bitcoin progress to institutional investors who want to hoard btc and offer general users who had btc a service to offramp away from the network and lose their btc by being primed into thinking altcoins are better.

much like bankers convinced people that small shiny copper and brass coins were better then getting their gold deposits back

..
bitcoin wont replace fiat.
bitcoin was designed as an alternative 'safe room' beside fiat. to hedge against fiat.

..
the first game is offer a different medium of exchange..
the next game. is debase the value of the altnet(sidechain/layers) token to no longer be 1:1
7855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The attack is 51%. The Bitcoin killer. on: July 26, 2021, 02:06:04 AM
maybe searching the forum for the thousands of topics on the subject. instead of making yet another one.

its not about fault with bitcoin code. its about a mining pool wanting to undo a block. after they have received goods or service. (undo some transaction) so that they can re-use that transaction value elsewhere

(its a double spend risk. not a break bitcoin code risk. as all network fullnode users have the same moral code. and changing block formations wont change the code. it only changes whats been a confirmed transaction)

the whole idea is
if it costs a block $200k every 10 minutes to be made.
to undo a block
say block 601
the moral mining pool(MMP) and the general network are already working on block 602
immoral pool(ImP) makes a new 601 minus his transactions

            0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min  50 min
MMP      601      602
ImP       601  601

for ImP to overtake MMP, ImP has to have more hashpower then the network.
            0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min  50 min
MMP      601      602      603       604
ImP       601  601  602  603  604

and maintain it
            0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min  50 min
MMP     601      602      603       604
ImP      601  601  602  603  604  605  606

thus at 605 everyone then follows his chain. thus ditching the mmp chain of 601-604
what he doesnt want to do is have the MMP overtaking him and re-establishing the 601 with the transaction
            0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min  50 min
MMP     601      602      603       604
ImP      601  601  602  603  604  605  606

anyway in stepping back to a scenario ImP was not re-overtaken
            0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min  50 min
MMP     601    602      603       604
ImP      601  601  602  603  604  605  606

this scenario now any/all transactions that were on mmp 601-604 are no longer confirmed.
and any transactions on ImP version are confirmed

however this cost ImP in this simple demo $1m of power to overtake with the 605 variant chain block
.
the premiss is.. unless people are going to want to undo a large transaction over $1m, they wont try to do this attack. as its not worth it otherwise

which is why as a more dis-incentive. anyone receiving a transaction will not release goods of $1m for 6 blocks(block cost $1.2m)

meaning if ImP buys something for $1m at block 601 he wont get the goods until 607
and then and only then can he try to break the 601 and start his undo of that transaction

           0min   10min   20min   30min   40 min   50 min   60 min   70 min   80 min
MMP     606      607       608       609      610       611       612       613        614
ImP      601  602  603  604  605  606  607  608  609  610  611  612  613  614  615

now its cost him 14 blocks ~$2.8mill
to undo a transaction of just $1m value

thus. he has lost money.. and would have been better off just being a moral miner
7856  Economy / Economics / Re: Take a look at the future of Bitcoin from the gold standard system on: July 26, 2021, 01:20:57 AM
bitcoin blockchain is being manoeuvred where its a 'reserve' and its altnets(layers/subnets/subchains/sidechains) that are to be the 'currency tokens/iou notes..for general spend payment system
'coz too expensive to use bitcoin network'
'coz transaction count limits on bitcoin network'

the future is thunderdome: two may enter one may leave
people lock their bitcoin to contract vaults(locks) with some well established custodian/service

then play on other altnets using different denominated tokens(micropayments). offering faster services lower fee's or something.
then at the end of the month when its time to exit the altnet. bitcoin is too high a tx fee to claim the sats back

and so the altnet partner offers the value wishing to be withdrawn, but do so via a cheaper altcoin to exit the altnet (atomic swap)

like how banks offered people nickel, brass, copper in exchange for banknotes
altnet custodians will offer altcoin exits instead of btc exits. 'coz cheaper and faster'

and now the custodian hoards the sats and the person ends up with cheap altcoin
7857  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: They say buy the dips...but how do you know the dip has bottomed out? on: July 26, 2021, 01:02:34 AM
Any tips,

Cheesy
no absolutely not..
the whole point is to avoid the tips and instead buy the dips

always buy below the tips
7858  Other / Politics & Society / Re: For all those who think Covid-19 Vaccine(s) will do good! on: July 25, 2021, 07:54:33 PM
Can be like diabetes, won't kill you right away but someone is getting rich and someone is getting miserable.

if they wanted to kill you not right away and get rich.. .. .. well they would just need to give you diabetes

oh wait doctors dont give you diabetes. the food production and the personal choice to over stimulate yourself on sugars daily for years in large quantity..

hmm..
over nutrition in large toxifying quantities.. wait.. sounds familiar
oh yea its the 'naturalists' advertising high dose supplements..
the same bunch of nutters that want people to surpress their immune system by dampening immune response symptoms

you know the ones. the ones that tell people not to use free medication/services and instead chew on some supplement every day and have to pay for it.
the ones that try getting people into lifetime subscriptions of megadose capsules. that have no medical studies that back up the 'promises' of immortality
7859  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Doctor says mRNA vaccines “will kill most people” through heart failure on: July 25, 2021, 02:53:18 PM
The most terrible thing with these "doctors" is that their patients and many other people will listen to them and some percentage of them WILL die from COVID. None of the vaccinated people will die from the disease.

The story doesn't end here. The vaccinated people are the ones, who had the good immunity power and survived the pandemic. Now they will get vaccinated and develop other complications. Even i have seen many people who got covid right after getting vaccinated. Although they recovered, but does not make sense to get the covid within a week of getting vaccinated. Something is wrong somewhere.

1. people think immunity happens instantly..
reality is it occurs over a month.

2. people think immunity means immortality
Immunity can be defined as a complex biological system endowed with the capacity to recognize and tolerate whatever belongs to the self, and to recognize and reject what is foreign (non-self).
it simply means if now knows to reject covid when infected.. you will  get infected. its not a bubble shield of inpregnaty
. but the more immune you are the less an infection will affect you symptomatically

3. those getting the vaccine. if you then jumping on 50 strangers and dry humping them with your mouth.. expect to catch something. a vaccine does not = immortal invisible condom of all virus
7860  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 25, 2021, 01:30:41 PM
 2)  they don't seem to be 'vaccines' insofar as they don't provide 'immunity'.  That is to say, a dosed person can still acquire the infection, allow the virus to re-produce within their bodies, and can still spread the infection to others.  The whole discussion of 'herd immunity' is off the table when a 'vaccine' allows this.  Marketing team to the rescue again because they deduced that the vast majority of the peeps are far to stupid to understand this fairly obvious reality.

vaccines come from a term involving putting a pathogen inside for the body to attack.
it originates from infecting people with a very small dose of the virus.

it is not plasma therapy, the act of putting immune cells into another person without those immune cells

vaccines are not plasma
plasma are not vaccines
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