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7921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not fix Bitcoin directly? on: July 19, 2021, 05:40:31 PM
its been explained a million times that if you coerce people to lock funds up for 3 months and not make any transaction onchain... they no longer need to actively have a fullnode because they no longer care about what happens onchain because the lock is doing its job

people using LN are not carrying their desktop pc to starbucks to monitor the blockchain. they are using phone apps. meaning again. not having a full node active

thus LN causes less decentralisation as in the end the only fullnodes left become the custodial services and 'factory' services of LN

What makes you think that people will shut down their existing full nodes (think the ones that are active on Bitnodes right now) to run an LN channel? If anything, it's going to be the new users who only run LN channels, not OG's who were already running full nodes before mass LN channel creation by other users.

i am an OG in 2012-2015 i was fullnode 24-7. but then as the scaling debates heated up and the merchants accepting btc direct started decreasing.. i started to realise i was not doing many payments a day/week.
now i just run a full node now and again..

only the custodial services and merchants would remain full noders 24/7/365.

again custodians and SERVICES that centralise liquidity and have customers. would be the full nodes
but USERs that just want to spend their value will lock up their funds. and then play around on litewallet phone apps.. why.. because carrying around a desktop for the full node is heavy. the locks mean no need to monitor the blockchain every minute. and not spending funds on chain mean no need to watch the blockchain for new income all the time. so people will see no point in downloading something they are not using hourly/daily.

so here is the question reversed onto you
newbie average joe just getting into crypto why would they go full node? if they are being told the way forward is microchannel altnets

think about it. most exchanges will offer channel opening facility with balance instead of withdrawing to a mainnet. to then lock to then open a channel...
so most new users will just do that for convenience and most exchanges would sway users into that convenient way.

so ask yourself who would choose to start a full node when all the utopian altnetters are pushing hard telling people to not use bitcoins main net

reducing the mainnet daily utility means people wont use or full node bitcoin daily. its simple logic


oh and i just done a quick search on bitnodes -
your request to run the scenario out of bitnodes list of nodes..
soo i did
seen the number of nodes.. and they are listed by most recently seen
clicked the US and seen the 37 pages of listings. i went to the middle page 18

and would you guess it. half the US nodes have only been online for 6 days
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?page=18&q=United%20States.. not weeks or months. just 6 days

heck. i checked page 37.. the longest any of its nodes were connected is 2 weeks
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/?page=37&q=United%20States

i can spot a few issues. which is why maybe best not for you to use bitnodes as a scenario(their OG age is 2weeks, thus not favouring the scenario in your favour from the start)
7922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not fix Bitcoin directly? on: July 19, 2021, 12:17:20 PM
Segwit is in effect a block size increase in a manner that ensures older clients are still functional.

segwit allows blocks to bloat in data size but has not offered a transaction count increase
we are still bottlenecking at about 2500tx a blockmax.. ~1500average.


segwit/altnets are not BITCOIN SCALING solutions.
they are off-ramping utility to avoid the need to scale bitcoin

segwits actual purpose is a gateway tx format to allow people to use other networks. thus removing people from using bitcoin.

a solution to scale america is not to evacuate americans

scaling america is not where its made to be more expensive to live in america thus ending up in a timeshare situation where people can only afford to use america 1 day a year

in short. making america a tourist country and removing it as a citizen homeland. is not a solution to making bitcoin the best homeland for citizens
7923  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not fix Bitcoin directly? on: July 19, 2021, 11:27:44 AM
the question assumes that there is something to fix - and i think the blockchain trilemma is not solved (even though some projects claim that, they haven't provided anything tangible - correct me if i am wrong). as long as we assume that you can't have scaling, security and decentralization in the base layer, there is nothing to fix

in short. this guy is bitten the altnet apple and saying that bitcoin is broke beyond repair so give up trying
(facepalm)

there is no technical reason to not have let onchain scale periodically from years ago.. it has all been political to stop scaling onchain.
its a human problem not an IT problem

humans that want to promote other networks as the go-to place for users
7924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why green bitcoin mining has become a trend? on: July 19, 2021, 10:47:52 AM
it's not FUD, it's a real problem. I think those who deny this are the same people who deny global warming. Bitcoin protocol has an infinite demand for more and more energy. People like to say that banks spend more energy, but what's the difference in scale? Any honest analysis must consider the scale.

certain stat sites estimate that US 'spends' $10.7trill a year
bitcoin does about $1.05b a day $383b a year

so the scale of value is ~28x

16,500,000,000,000kwh for the us to 'spend' its money
16.5pwh a year
16,500twh a year
1,884gwh per hour(1.88twh per hour)

110exahash /110thash= 1mill s19pro asics at 3.25kwh per 110thash
3,250,000kwh per hour
3.25gwh per hour

so lets see the difference
  dollar        vs      btc
US 1884gw       btc 3.25gw
US $10.7trill     btc $383bill (10.7t is 28x more then $383b)
____________________ (divide the 1884 and 10.7 by 28 to get fiat equivalent to btc value moved cost)
US 67gw          btc 3.25gw
US $383b        btc $383b

so yea a direct comparison for fiat $1 per kw and btc value $1 per kw
the btc is actually ~20x BETTER than fiat

..
as for 'global warming'.. not all countries will get 'warming' .. thats why climate change is a better buzzword. because some countries will see a cooling effect.
as for the inner debates of causes.. yes humans caused it.. but its not only/majorly carbon as the weapon. its actually the alteration of nature to effect the water cycle thats the main factor

(less fresh water naturally flowing on land = less evaporation=less clouds= less cooling and less snow to replenish the poles
- due to (dams)reservoir hoarding. pipes, plumbing, sewers = water unable to be evaporated if its trapped out of the sun)
and yes have 5 litres in a pool(reservoir) vs 5 litres spread out as a thin puddles/streams.. the puddle/stream evaporates more then the pooled reservoir. so yes dam reservoirs actually damage the water cycle compared to just letting the streams and rivers flow over natural unpiped land
7925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not fix Bitcoin directly? on: July 19, 2021, 09:31:41 AM
Why not fix Bitcoin directly?
You mean in the first layer?

The whole scalability problem has been discussed a million times in this forum. If you increase the block size, you'll make people pay less in fees, but hard to retain the decentralization. It turns out that the lightning network is, indeed, the greatest and most practical solution. Instead of fulling all those computers' hard drive with unnecessary transactions, you're just broadcasting the final balance.

Advantages:
  • Better privacy. A blockchain analyzer can't track down your routed transactions.
  • Instant confirmation. (no need to wait for transaction inclusion into a block)
  • Nearly zero fees.

its been explained a million times that if you coerce people to lock funds up for 3 months and not make any transaction onchain... they no longer need to actively have a fullnode because they no longer care about what happens onchain because the lock is doing its job

people using LN are not carrying their desktop pc to starbucks to monitor the blockchain. they are using phone apps. meaning again. not having a full node active

thus LN causes less decentralisation as in the end the only fullnodes left become the custodial services and 'factory' services of LN

disadvatages
LN's 'gossip' reveals more info then you realise. every new commitment updates the status of the channels. which the network get to hear.
  • you CAN piece together the payments by seeing the updates update
  • payments are instant handshaked. but not confirmed. its not guaranteed until its on the blockchain
  • because of onchain fee's unless your routes have high capacity. they charge a noticable amount. and the more hops away from the destination the more you pay
  • payment succes rate is not 100% or guaranteed. its ok for niche small things like bubblegum but even something for pizza amounts can fail. presently 50% of the network has only upto $200 liquidity. but some routes already have most of that 'spent'


i got nothing against niche networks or services that offer things for niche use. but LN is not a solution
LN is not even a feature dedicated just to bitcoin

a proper bitcoin solution. involves evolving BITCOIN not other networks to coerce people away from bitcoin

in short
the solution to scaling bitcoin is not guiding people to use bitcoin less by converting them into other network/coin/token users

as that just 'solution to scaling american patriots= migrate patriots out of america so that there is more room in america.. without building any more houses'
and no. getting patriots to love mexico is not a american patriot scaling solution
7926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China might really be out of Bitcoin and the cryptospace on: July 18, 2021, 11:53:15 PM
In any case, Beijing has confiscated more than $100k worth of miners and flattened them with an industrial steamroller.

https://mobile.twitter.com/btcinchina/status/1415923704375123970?s=12

$100k...pfft

looks like old s9's too me
probably at the end of their life cycle anyway

seeing the video and guessing a 15x15 grid(225). upto 20x20(400)
(couldnt be bothered to waste time actually counting accurately)

thats like combined 300kwh for 3.2phash upto
                             540kwh for 5.7phash

they would have only got $22k-$40k if they sold them second hand anyway so no major loss. definitely not $100k loss


yet for 30-50 s19pro's they can now do the same hashrate for 98kwh-160kwh
pretty much save 3x their electric costs by calling the confiscated old crappy s9's dead anyway
7927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why green bitcoin mining has become a trend? on: July 18, 2021, 10:32:11 PM
hashpower and reward for mining has ZERO connection with number of transactions in a block
miners that empty mine or full block mine get the same length hash and pass that has to asics
transaction count per block is MEANINGLESS to mining cost and reward.
they all get the same hash length and same 6.25btc reward no matter what
the 'fee total' is not about transaction count either. its about selection and bidding and arbitrary min fee rules set in software

now thats explained
media are not just saying "bitcoin uses country X amount of energy" but also propagandising that "each transaction costs X houses daily energy bill"

this narrative is done by certain groups that want to portray bitcoin as useless and expensive to transactions to sway people into using altnets for their transactions instead.
7928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine? on: July 18, 2021, 10:01:09 PM
reprogramming your cells to produce the designer's protein,

there is no reprogramming of cell
the ribosome does not change

if you cant understand science. look in your kitchen
if a recipe says get a cup of water. the cup does not change.
if a recipe says put ingredients together. the bowl does not change
if a recipe says put it in the oven. the oven does not change

a oven does not change into a meat grinder. its still an oven
a oven does not change into a meat patty mold. its still an oven

the recipe only works if it uses what already exists.
the recipe is created to function using the bodies natural machinery

making a cake does not mean you have to change any kitchen appliance into a new device

.. now i really hope you atleast know how yo make some basic food in your kitchen to understand reality of how things work

every human has a ribosome. there is no need to change it or create a ribosome to then produce the protein
the mRNA does not have the lengthy complex code to change or make a new ribosome
7929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why green bitcoin mining has become a trend? on: July 18, 2021, 09:46:51 PM
majority of chinese mining FARMS have been 'green' since 2014(set up in hydro areas from the start)
majority of chinese and other countries residential hobby home miners have been fossil

the fun facts is most altcoins of small hashpower are home hobby miners wasting fossil

moderate to majority of western FARMS are fossil

asic farms have not ever tried to set up in solar area's due to.. obviously night.
asic farms have not ever tried to set up in windfarm area's. due to.. obviously still-air
asics farms have preferred hydro due to.. obviously. constant water-flow

the sudden press news about Green mining is not some new idea
its about 50% propaganda anti china/hate messaging
50% blame the home hobby miners. and attempt to remove home hobby for more industrial elite groups via raising investment to set up industrial farms in the west in regions of renewable hydro
7930  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What are the technical obstacles that Bitcoin has to overcome in the next decade on: July 18, 2021, 06:56:01 PM
FWIW, lightning already lets you use smaller amounts.

(sarcasm)dont say that the LN utopian fluff PR guys have been beating me left and right trying to say that everything in LN is the same as bitcoin and spreading vile that im talking nonsense about how LN uses different units of measure that bitcoin cannot accept..
if you continue revealing that LN is different to bitcoin with its own separate units of measure, they will abandon you as their worship leader and call you a LN heretic

so maybe whisper it next time or they will hate you too
(/sarcasm)

maybe their anger and claims of misinformation is that i claim its 12 decimals when they want to be anal and say its 11 (pico minus 1). yet they miss the point entirely that its more then 8, thus not bitcoin compatible


anyway.. after Gmax's shameless plug of another network (standard poke to avoid solving bitcoin issues)
lets draw the topic back to bitcoin issues.

the main one seems to be what is being promoted as a technical problem.. getting the byzantine generals to agree on a bitcoin evolution
though digging deeper. its more political than technical.

first coercing the main merchants(generals) to change or their transactions will be more expensive.. so merchants follow pools and ripple effects onto users(cadet) that want to use merchants, so follow too.

next coercing pools to change unless have their blocks rejected by merchants. again ripple effects pools follow and users follow.

but before the political game even begins. trying to convince the core devs to implement some change. is the bigger political game. because if they decline to release a code change in their implementation. it aint going to happen. any 'forked github' of bitcoin software by default is always treated with opposition. even if it has no intention of forking the chain
7931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine? on: July 18, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
it doesnt edit YOUR genes

you really are pulling at straws trying to find any small twiglet of way to think of it as gene therapy
but its not. injecting the vaccine does not do any editing to your genes. so no gene therapy to you

it lacks the enzymes that pass through the nucleus barrier.
it lacks the tRNA and the other rna parts that would slice and dice your dna
the mRNA is just a messenger instruction to make a protein.. in the ribosome

there is no transcription/replication instructions..
there is no gene splicing instructions
there is no gene combining instruction
7932  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine? on: July 18, 2021, 05:49:30 PM
your body produces the immunity.. always has. no vaccine is about providing immunity.
its about triggering the bodies immunity in a safer way than a virus would

and again to really try geting you to open your closed mind

its not GENE editing. so not gene therapy
at most its protein generating therapy
7933  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine? on: July 18, 2021, 05:23:38 PM
gene therapy involves passing a cells nucleus membrane and changing the DNa inside

mRNA doesnt go into the nucleus. it goes into the ribosome
mRNa doesnt change the gene in the nucleus

mRNA vaccine instruction is to get the ribosome to do some protein creating

if anything its protein generative therapy..
not gene therapy

LEARN THE DIFFERENCE

Quote
gene is a basic unit of heredity and a sequence of nucleotides in DNA or RNA that encodes the synthesis of a gene product

mRNA vaccine makes proteins not more rna/gna genes..

heck if you cant even get it right where the proteins are made(ribosome not nucleus) then maybe you need to go back to highschool..


if you like analogies
imagine your sisters home.. and there is a yard with a cow in it
gene therapy is invading your sisters home going to her bedroom and imbreeding to produce an imbred offspring that based on you and your sisters genes (yes i feel you can atleast understand this scenario)

mrna vaccine goes to the yard and cuts up the cow to make protein burgers
7934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Doctor says mRNA vaccines “will kill most people” through heart failure on: July 18, 2021, 05:17:46 PM
To be a little bit more accurate in the wording, the Harvard study found that reports were filed for fewer than 1% of the vaccine adverse events which occurred or where suspected.

99.99% of cry baby "ouchy the needle hurt" are not reported. this dilutes the more accurate hospitalisation severe reports..

so it is not less than 1% of severe cases are reported.
sever cases are pretty accurate.
its just diluting the overall stats by including the minor stuff as a possible thing to report that no one bothers reporting because.. lack of emotional hypochondriac crybabies
..
i know both badecker, and tvbcof want people to sue the medical system for all needle pricks and expected symptoms like fever and slight muscle pain for a couple days.
but the world outside tvbcof and badeckers cult bubble understand that monor expected things. are not adverse reactions.

..
anyway.. the death count is near accurate(given time delays). the needle prick ouchies are inaccurate to a scale of 99.99% missing
7935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the Connection Between Graphene Oxide Found in "Covid Vaccines" on: July 18, 2021, 11:28:05 AM
is this real or fake news?

fake
even the university advertised in the myth announced it never done any studies on campus
whereby the claim is of a professors opinion. but where the provinance of the substance photographed is no proof of being the vaccine fluid nor that the photo contains graphine. just 2 pics that look alike

the idea is not to actually do a proper scientific test. but to produce some lame imagery and claim the imagery is X and then use that to coerce real science to actually do real tests to prove/debunk

its not final proof. its wizardy try coerce others to do the tests. thus meaningless

other actual studies done around the world independantly have tested the contents of real vials where they can trace the supply route from the manufacturer to the lab. and can show actual lab results.. and they all show no graphene..
its called product quality assurance tests.. they happen alot
7936  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What are the technical obstacles that Bitcoin has to overcome in the next decade on: July 18, 2021, 10:14:02 AM
the economic rule is limited satoshi supply and breaking up satoshis into even more units that can be shared. is making it less scarce. because more people get a slice
i probably shouldn't engage with you, but what you say here is wrong. you mean it gets more accessible, but it doesn't get less scarce
you have precisely by your own admission only a few weeks knowledge on topics like LN
i know you have joined the promotion of alternate network hype gang of utopian overpromises

but take a step back and realise people want to know about flaws and issues.. and not just be pumped with hype and dreams

yes i dont give kiss-ass hugging messages of hope. but atleast look passed the tone of my messages that fluffy dreamers hate and realise the actual reality of the situations i talk about

oh
and 21m btc is not a hard rule
20,999,999,999,xxx sats is the hard rule of limited supply
if you think its about 'btc' then do try and i mean this really try to find a raw transaction in the blockchain whos output value is "1" where 1 represents a btc
.. heck ill be nice to you,.. there isnt any

if your here to make friends and create a social culture divide.. fine, thats your business
im here because i care about bitcoin(not other network)

(sorry to other readers for the social drama of the altnet hypers)

in short
if its easier to share.. then its not hard to get

gold is not scarce.. everyone on this forum has gold. its in the device your reading this message in right now.
easy to find easy to get
7937  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What are the technical obstacles that Bitcoin has to overcome in the next decade on: July 18, 2021, 10:04:53 AM
both have been ruled out as viable options due to the scarcity promise of limited supply
Where's the scarcity promise? Would you mind sharing a link? I know that whether we had 8 or 18 digits, we'd still never exceed the 21,000,000 BTC; isn't that what matters? Even if it can be divided, how would that affect the Bitcoin or the people's wealths?

I think that Satoshi made it pretty clear that we could extend its decimal places in the future. There's no reason, at the moment, though. You can't send less than 547 sats, so it'd be ironic to upgrade to 12 places.

maybe if you discover the words sharable units. and understand scarcity in regards to shares of units.
you will understand what scarcity is

btc at code level does not exist. you will not find any btc in any raw transaction data. no btc on the blockchain.
its all measured in sats..
always have been

the measures known as bits(100sat) millibits(10000sats(0.001btc) and btc are just graphic multiplication on the user display for easy human reading

knowing that there has been a hard rule of sats.. and a human construct multiplication of btc
is the same as the '10min block' thing in reality being 2016 blocks a fortnight hard rule not a 10min rule

but thats the symantecs debate

the economic rule is limited satoshi supply where breaking up satoshis into even more units that can be shared. is making it less scarce. because more people get a slice

it then becomes that bitcoin is not 100,000,000x of the smallest unit of measure basket term
but then becomes a basket term for even more sharable units
emphasis of sharable units
7938  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What are the technical obstacles that Bitcoin has to overcome in the next decade on: July 18, 2021, 09:47:34 AM
But is it really technical obstacles? Few obvious option (such as increasing block reward and setting minimum transaction fee) has always been possible.

increasing the blockreward is not been a viable option
on a technical level its not hard
but the economical/political/algo promise bases.. it breaks the moral rules

bitcoin was designed from day one to release 5000000000sats every block and half every 210k blocks. leading to a moral/economic rule of total circulation limit of 2100000000000000sats
changing this breaks the moral economic code of limited supply

doesnt matter if its changing the smallest unit of measure into even smallest sharable units of measure or changing it to produce more current measures. both have been ruled out as viable options due to the scarcity promise of limited supply

Don't forget on-chain transaction quantity.
yes this is the key method forward. it then allows more utility.
at the moment 2500tx only allows for 360000 people to make one transaction a day if uniformly and fairly used by everyone

but to also help with the equal share or chance to get a 'slot' the transaction fee desperately needs a fee formulae..
not the current rule where
segwit pays ~same sat/weight
legacy pays ~same sat/weight*4

but where the utxo's age becomes a consideration.
where by spammers pay more than infrequent users. deterring spammers.. thus not turning the blocks into spam blocks leaving random users bottlenecked paying higher to compete

for instance right now its possible and does not break any consensus or morals
to change the fee policy to not care the ethic hereditary of a transaction(legacy or segwit) but instead just count the utxo blockheight vs current blockheight at new transaction creation/broadcast. and give anyone spending under 72block(half a day) a 4X premium
or more creatively set 1confirm as 144x and descend down to 1x if coin over 144 confirms

7939  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What happens if 2 miners start solo mining at the same time with the same hard on: July 17, 2021, 09:02:46 PM
seeing as he said

If 2 miners start solo mining at the same time with the same hardware and firmware :
Suppose that they get the same work

"suppose they get the same work"
meaning he sent his friend the same block header details..
meaning both worked on same block. with same coinbase

then its technically not solomining but 2party pool mining
but as in my previous post i explained all the effects and after effects of friends wasted efforts and angers at doing this with both starting at the same nonce beginning
7940  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Which language is most suitable for blockchain on: July 17, 2021, 07:23:29 PM
any language which allows
write to disk (save to hard drive)
connect to peer direct(IP connection)(i suppose HTTP methods can do. but then every user needs a webserver)

.
some web languages are crap. but as long as you can store and transfer data. then you can have fun with HOW and WHO and WHY
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