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501  Economy / Economics / Re: Help me understand... on: February 22, 2015, 11:00:44 PM
I had a really good response from another friend of mine which I'll share here for people that are truly interested in the general population's mindset.


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Some people only see the reasons not to do something, they scour their minds for the perceived reasons that something will fail. Complacency, procrastination and subrogation of their rights is easier than understanding, making your own decisions and and taking responsibility for your own life. They enjoy relying on the current system to take care of them.

I really think that says it best.
502  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin insurance ever be a reality? on: February 22, 2015, 10:58:37 PM
I still dont get how loans and insurances work. Who's going to stop you from not paying? unless you give them all your credentials before or something so they can trace you.

As an insurance agency you are a legal entity (at least in the USA). Right now most likely companies like Circle and Coinbase have insurance agencies that will back up their bitcoin assets with cash if they get hacked, in which case coinbase/circle will have to purchase bitcoins with that cash in order to give their customers their coins back.

Insurance agencies also have to purchase insurance from the government so that if for any reason the insurance agency goes bankrupt, then the government fills the insurance claims.

If we go to an all bitcoin system we would have to rely on strong insurance companies with proof of reserves for x% of the stuff that they insure. Even then since we couldn't force them to pay out the bitcoins (because we don't have their private keys) then it would just come down to jail time if they don't pay.
503  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins hit Africa's money transfer traditions on: February 22, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
They don't need internet connection or smart phones... as mentioned towers are not a problem
How are they supossed to do anything without internet connection? I dont get it.

Look up "Bitcoin via SMS". If you have questions, read about it...
504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins hit Africa's money transfer traditions on: February 22, 2015, 08:47:11 AM
Problem is the internet connection in Africa is not the most reliable in the world.

But of course a non reliable way of transfer still is better than no way of transfer

Funny that you say that. I know of a few doc's that went down to Africa with their cellphones and had amazing service while out in very small villages and were able to check-in with their families at home everyday. They couldn't stop raving about how "the middle of Africa has wireless coverage figured out better than the US".
505  Economy / Economics / Re: I just created 100 pennies.. and loaned them out, you owe me 101 pennies….. on: February 22, 2015, 08:36:25 AM
Is the OP ever going to enlighten us with his answer?

You can't. You need to borrow more money from the printer and thus you have more debt, and thus have to borrow......well you get the picture.
506  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet To Bank Account Fee on: February 22, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
Everyone will have a fee when you convert fiat to bitcoin or bitcoin to fiat. Whether it be hidden in their exchange rate or maybe they will just flat out tell you what the fee is on top of the exchange rate. All of these companies have to pay for the network to interact with the banks and thus there is really no side-stepping the fees.

Your best bet is to buy stuff directly with bitcoin or even using stuff like Gyft or Purse.io so that when you buy stuff with bitcoin you actually save money...3% with Gyft and up to 20% with Purse.io. That way there is no fee and you actually get more $$ for your bitcoins.
507  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Would he be better off with his cpu or his graphics card on: February 22, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
Mining bitcoins with a CPU or graphics card won't be worth it at all. I'd suggest checking out Monero (XMR) which can be mined well with CPU/GPU and can get him into the mining scene and he will only be at a very small loss (due to cost of electricity). Then he can use the generated Monero to trade them for bitcoins or any other altcoin.
508  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: February 22, 2015, 08:21:25 AM
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509  Economy / Economics / Help me understand... on: February 22, 2015, 07:56:17 AM
When most anti-bitcoin people talk about bitcoin all I hear is how the price is not stable and it can't be used everywhere yet and not everyone uses bitcoin yet. To me this just shows how much growth potential there is with bitcoin. It shows me how much added value bitcoin will/would have with massive acceptance and usage. To me the fact that the bitcoin economy is growing and it continues to get new developments (think Bitcoin 2.0 world) shows me that it's on the right path to increase in adoption and usefullness.

Why do people see "doomed to failed, because it's not already big", while I see "Has tremendous growth potential, because it's not already big nor the defacto world currency".

All opinions, insight etc is GREATLY appreciated. I seriously have the hardest time wrapping my head around this one.

Bears feel free to flame-on, I'm greatly interested in what you all have to say along with the bulls.
510  Economy / Economics / Re: Lyth0s' Quotes from "Smart Economists" That Couldn't Be More Wrong on: February 22, 2015, 07:47:17 AM
It's crazy to think that all 8 billion people are possible users of Bitcoin. Absent good Internet connectivity, electricity, and some kind of computing capability, you can't use Bitcoin. Also your prospective "trading partners" have to be in a similar situation, or else it doesn't fly. As a currency, Bitcoin has some MAJOR hurdles to overcome.

Have you seen people with cell phones in the middle of Africa yet? Have you seen Bitcoin services via SMS even without a true internet connection? Open your eyes buddy, the world is advancing.

And if we consider the total population pool to be less than 8 billion then we have even a greater percentage of bitcoin adoption than the numbers I'm stating, which is great!
511  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BTER.COM SCAM? THE THEFT PROOF! on: February 22, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
Been reopened but not allowing withdrawal.

hmmmm weird situation, no coins allowed to be removed!

At least they re-opened!

If it was truly a scam, I don't think they would have opened up.

I think they are still mitigating losses and figuring out what to do. Since they don't have as many coins as needed, I don't know how they will handle withdrawals.

OR...

Open back up and see how many people will bring more coin and do it all over again lol

Withdrawl's of altcoins are disabled. Not looking good.
512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CNN adds Bitcoin ticker on: February 22, 2015, 07:07:20 AM
Yahoo's offered the BTC/USD conversion in their ticker system for almost a year...CNN's just catching up.

However, It's nice that the bitcoin ticker is on CNN Money Market's homepage! Just imagine when bitcoin is the 4th ticker on your favorite news channel after SP500, DIJA, Nasdaq, BTC Cheesy
513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CNN adds Bitcoin ticker on: February 22, 2015, 07:02:32 AM
X__ is any cross national currency and thus XBT makes sense for the financial markets.
514  Economy / Speculation / Re: I have 4 bitcoin What should i do. Should sell or hold on to the price increase? on: February 20, 2015, 02:43:59 AM
Only invest what you can 100% afford to lose. If you can afford to buy 1 bitcoin/month without it affecting your financial situation then keep at it. Good investors know to be prepared to hold investments at minimum for 5 years, plan accordingly.

If you can't afford it, stop purchasing them and don't plan on the price rising anytime soon. Then decide if you need to sell your coins to cover daily costs.
515  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Pizza for bitcoins? on: February 20, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
Laszlo did bought a fucking expensive pizza if we see as of now
He could have bought one whole factory for that , maybe more
that's why he is still in shock Cheesy

He is not in shock at all. He was working on programming some stuff for bitcoin at the time and got some "free" pizza in return for a few weeks. He never regretted it and in fact we should all thank him for being the first to establish that bitcoins were worth something.
516  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 12:35:24 AM
bullish market ∧ large buy → panic selling
Panic selling or taking profits on small dollar differences on margin?
Yes, but it crashes below the starting point. Stable price → large buy → crash below the stable price.



My typical way of trading (for fun) is wait for price to go higher than the short term 12-24 hour range, then open a leveraged short, wait for price to drop to at least lower bound of last 12-24 hour range (the more the better) and if price continues to fall then hold for a little bit. Once it looks like price is even *thinking* about going back to the days range close my short and open a leveraged long (both of which add buying pressure).

If other people are doing the same thing (which is highly profitable and since most traders are smarter than me I'm sure they are making a lot more than myself) maybe that is creating the pattern.

I trade for fun and small daily profits, so don't take my advice as a for sure thing or anything to that regard.
517  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 12:30:32 AM
With the next auction of DPR's 50,000BTC coming up in March I expect most of the coins to be sold much lower than market price and I also expect a huge dump after the coins from the auctions are dispersed. We may even see sub $150 coins at that time. I highly doubt any good positive gains until at least a few weeks after the auction. Most people won't take that chance of getting dumped on.

auction will be a non-event. nothing will happen at all.

Please explain.

Simply because it's expected and forecasted since months back.

Are you guys new around here? You can factor in "sentiment" way ahead, but not an actual dump. Price is already 240's, but if they dump an additional full 50,000 coins at once on bitstamp/finex the price will drop even further. Simple yet people like to remain ignorant to sentiment vs sentiment PLUS actual dump.

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in last auction nothing happened in the day of the auction.
That's a silly statement. Dumps would happen days after the auction. marshalls announce winners, then people have to first receive their coins to their wallet. Then choose exchanges to send the coins to. Then evaluate how many coins they will dump at each price that day, IE is the market absorbing my whole dump? Do I need to sell 100BTC $1 apart? can I sell 200BTC $1 apart? etc. Only the great bearwhale is dumb enough to setup one huge sell wall and all for a price less than market price. He could have easily made an additional 3 million if he planned that maneuver.

Do you think draper or the syndicate dumped?

Neither. I'm saying that this time there will be low demand for the 50,000 coins which will lead to lower than market prices, which could very well lead to a dump for quick profits THIS time Tongue
518  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 12:19:49 AM
Can someone explain this shit to me. The price looks stable. Then someone buys ~600 BTC on Bitstamp. Then OKCoin crashes. Why?

Does the price swing confuse the bots?
Does the price swing trigger trailing stops?
Did the pump and dumper's target price get hit?

I've seen this happen before and it does not make sense to me:
bullish market ∧ large buy → panic selling

Panic selling or taking profits on small dollar differences on margin?
519  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 20, 2015, 12:17:31 AM
With the next auction of DPR's 50,000BTC coming up in March I expect most of the coins to be sold much lower than market price and I also expect a huge dump after the coins from the auctions are dispersed. We may even see sub $150 coins at that time. I highly doubt any good positive gains until at least a few weeks after the auction. Most people won't take that chance of getting dumped on.

auction will be a non-event. nothing will happen at all.

Please explain.

Simply because it's expected and forecasted since months back.

Are you guys new around here? You can factor in "sentiment" way ahead, but not an actual dump. Price is already 240's, but if they dump an additional full 50,000 coins at once on bitstamp/finex the price will drop even further. Simple yet people like to remain ignorant to sentiment vs sentiment PLUS actual dump.

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in last auction nothing happened in the day of the auction.
That's a silly statement. Dumps would happen days after the auction. marshalls announce winners, then people have to first receive their coins to their wallet. Then choose exchanges to send the coins to. Then evaluate how many coins they will dump at each price that day, IE is the market absorbing my whole dump? Do I need to sell 100BTC $1 apart? can I sell 200BTC $1 apart? etc. Only the great bearwhale is dumb enough to setup one huge sell wall and all for a price less than market price. He could have easily made an additional 3 million if he planned that maneuver.
520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshals to Auction 50,000 Ross Ulbricht Bitcoins on: February 20, 2015, 12:12:14 AM
People should avoid purchasing these coins like they avoid the plague, because purchasing these coins is simply financially rewarding a government that is entirely opposed to the people, and the proceeds the government receives for them coins will go directly towards the prosecution of more American people... none of those funds will go towards the betterment of the American people. 

It would be one thing if the American people were in fact in control over their government, but this clearly is not the case, and has not been the case for a very -very- long time.

I could not agree with this post more.
I would not buy these "stolen" coins for $0.01 on principal alone.

You want bitcoins to be less fungible?
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