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301  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is it worth investing in Bitcoin MIning with S9 considering the current FUD! on: May 01, 2017, 01:08:18 PM
I would say Bitcoin mining is very risky as well as holding.  Anything related to Bitcoin is risky, but mining is very hard to predict.  You don't know what the difficulty is going to be in the future, or indeed what the price is going to be relative to the difficulty which is what matters.  You could end up with less ROI than you thought.

It is still relatively safe though.  I admire that you're looking into this.  You need a place with low electricity costs though, otherwise your costs could start outweighing the revenues after a while.
302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bobby Lee - price target in 2020; after block halving: USD $5k-$11k on: May 01, 2017, 12:10:57 PM
I'm positive about the price but since you've mentioned the halving, keep in mind that there were incredible expectations for this year's halving and the price didn't go to extremes. It sure kept going up, but to achieve $5k in the next 3 years we'd have to be moving up much faster. With current rate we'll still be below $2000 next year.

the halving certainly delivered one hell of alot more than i was expecting. i thought it would still be sitting in the mid hundreds right now when people started to get excited about it a few months before.
It's not all about the halving though.  That's just a factor that's there throughout all of the other factors that are affecting the market directly.  Obviously the price doesn't have to double for the halving, it just has to double every four years for miner revenues to stay the same without transaction fees rising and that could happen due to a whole range of other factors.
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we makeing up time for the lost years between 2013 and now or pump & D on: May 01, 2017, 10:12:33 AM
Not true at all.  The amount of liquidity on exchanges is mind-boggling small and the vast majority of Bitcoin isn't even in circulation.  It wouldn't even take a quarter of that to pump up the price that far unless loads of hodlers give up and start dumping their old Bitcoin on exchanges.

Yeah. People tend to forget that it's just a fraction of all bitcoins mined which are actually "alive" and circulating. In reality, numbers we should be considering in practical sense of market cap are definitely a lot smaller.
Market cap is a meaningless number anyway when referring to currencies.  Bitcoin is very unusual and it shouldn't be treated like the shares of a company - it's different and it's impossible to tell how much is in use or how much is lost or so many other factors.  Some people just like their soundbites.
304  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Bitcoin Earning on: May 01, 2017, 09:59:53 AM
You shouldn't look at it that way, really.

Bitcoin's price over the course of the past few years hasn't risen that quickly and it takes quite significant moves to do so - in reality, you're probably going to have a few dramatic rises and dramatic drops if you're in it for the long run.  It's only 20% if you sell it and buy it when it drops a bit, and no one can accurately predict exactly where the price will go to actually do that.
305  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Poloniex isn't the best place to trade alts on: May 01, 2017, 09:43:30 AM
Geez, try not to let it get you that down in the dumps.  I hear what you're saying, and though I've not experienced the same level of bullshit with them, I believe it.  People have much the same thing with Yobit and all the other exchanges.  They're run by people who should never go out in the sunshine, much less run any sort of money-based exchange that requires a certain level of customer service.  You'll note that online stock brokers rarely have this kind of criticism leveled against them, because they know when you deal with people's money you need to have a good relationship with them.  Sounds obvious, but these bitcoin exchanges just do not get it.
Yeah. I don't know why but so many exhanges just don't care about there reputation. They just need to spend additional 1-2k$ on support team to solve all tickets properly and clean there reputation but they don't want for some reason.

So for now it's -40% and over 24 hours since thhe deposit, no answer on ticket
It's because compared to other places, Poloniex actually is a pretty good place to trade alts.  The problem is that Bitcoin related exchanges in general are pretty crap right now and Poloniex isn't going to be any different (especially with the state of USDT right now - this could just be the tip of the iceberg).
306  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Strong password for your accounts on: May 01, 2017, 09:36:00 AM
It would never really be a good idea to use a service to create a password for you (and even worse to use a service to hold your passwords for you along with what they're for).  Internet services like that are never actually reliable.
307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2017, 09:26:48 AM
Good morning gentlemen, $1360 is nice to see when checking the price today. We're moving in the right direction right now, hopefully it's only a matter of time until we break into the $1400's.
On some exchanges we already have.  It's super weird how GDAX is already into the $1400s - it's really hard to tell where the price actually is, we'd have to consider one exchange at a time.
308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we makeing up time for the lost years between 2013 and now or pump & D on: May 01, 2017, 08:57:39 AM
I kinda feel on a weekly time frame, we are pumping a bit hard, but on a macro scale BTC seems to go above critical amounts such over 1 c, 1$, 100$, 1K, etc.

Are we catching up for the lost years, eg due for a 5 ~10K pump then fall back to 3K or something?



No I can not see us pumping BTC that much. Just to reach $3000 we would need another $23 billion moving into BTC right now.
Not true at all.  The amount of liquidity on exchanges is mind-boggling small and the vast majority of Bitcoin isn't even in circulation.  It wouldn't even take a quarter of that to pump up the price that far unless loads of hodlers give up and start dumping their old Bitcoin on exchanges.

Basically, right now it's a "pump" in that it's pretty quick growth and could reverse due to weak fundamentals, but the reverse would be to about $1100 rather than really significantly down.

The reality is that Bitcoin will rise, but it'll take time.  A full-on pump and dump could happen at some point, but it seems more likely that it would happen with an altcoin instead and the dump wouldn't fully happen - you could imagine some whales getting into ETH or something.
309  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Genisis mining and hashflare profitability? on: May 01, 2017, 08:19:02 AM
Genesis mining will never ROI.

If you're lucky, Hashflare will eventually, but the hashrate you have there will decrease in profit as the difficulty rises so eventually the earnings will be insignificant.

"Lifetime contract" is never true anyway.  How likely is it that some website for people Bitcoin mining for you at will is going to stay online for basically a hundred years?
310  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is going on with Bitcoin? Satoshi Nakamoto on: May 01, 2017, 08:00:07 AM
In addition, satoshi invented bitcoins with anonymity as a primary concern,
well anonymity was not the primary concern when creating bitcoin ever as far as I am aware. and we all know bitcoin is not anonymous with all the transactions on the public ledger Smiley
but you have a good point that I usually say myself too. Satoshi Nakamoto is the symbol of staying anonymous while using bitcoin and it is possible.

p.s. Nice trolling OP.
How I look at it, satoshi's primary concern was a peer-to-peer network and when creating this he took inspiration from previous working peer-to-peer networks like Tor which do encourage anonymity.  It works a lot better for him to encourage pseudonymity when dealing with a public blockchain (as no one wants to reveal their personal information onto a public blockchain forever).
311  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Brainwallet from my own poem on: May 01, 2017, 07:49:39 AM
You could do this, but seriously what's the point?

If you had a paper wallet which you stored securely (in a safe or something) you'd be pretty well off without having to remember the keys for years.  If you ever stop using Bitcoin for a while, you might end up forgetting.
312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC dominance decreasing. on: May 01, 2017, 07:25:41 AM
Why do people really care so much?  Bitcoin dominance in market cap is only a little part of its dominance overall, and losing a 50% majority would just mean that the dominance is spread between several cryptocurrencies.  Bitcoin is still massive and will continue to be.
313  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Does mining makes more bitcoins than gambling? on: April 30, 2017, 08:28:29 PM
Mining can result in profit.  Gambling can result in gains.

If you win in gambling, it can be because of skill, but it can also be temporary or luck or anything else.  Gambling is by nature unpredictable even with sports betting (unless you do arbitrage).

Mining is sometimes unprofitable, but that's something you can predict.  Gambling is not.
314  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is happening currently with cryptocurrencies on: April 30, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
  Everyone knows BTC is king so everyone will return back home 

This was true up till now... but if Bitcoin will stay the king is more in doubt than ever.  That was the point of the meme.


Does it even matter if it is?  Ethereum is very strange since its properties are an asset are questionable and the centralised development team means that its supply could be manipulated at nearly any time.  Other cryptocurrencies still have very insignificant market share - the Litecoin bubble ages ago brought it as high as DASH became.  Bitcoin in general might not stay "king" but it has its own properties and immutability gives investors a certainty.  It's just going down a different path.
315  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is destroying Bitcoin? on: April 30, 2017, 08:14:01 AM
Clearly this subreddit is capable of terrible confirmation bias.  Most of the claims in the article could be made with slightly different statistics and phrasing from Core supporters (could be at tens of thousands from the LN et cetera).

Both subreddits are just weird echo chambers for each side and no one seems to actually interact with the other side except for claiming that they're shills or that they're censoring their respective subreddit.

What's even the point?
316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much can a Doomsday will effect on bitcoin? on: April 29, 2017, 07:21:22 PM
It's very close to impossible to hack the network.  There are attacks like 51% attacks but those are on transactions not the network as a whole and mainly affect transactions sent by people who have 51% hashrate (meaning that it would be detrimental to the company to try and manipulate any other transactions because the price would drop down).
317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is destroying Bitcoin? on: April 29, 2017, 06:14:40 PM
Whether someone is destroying or the other is defending even if some other people are of the opinion is a conspiracy theory, one thing I know is that, the total number of people involved involved in bitcoin that do not understand the technicalities of how things work, outweighs the ones in the know of the technicals like this. And if they all succeed in pushing out those people with their bickering among themselves, I wonder what they will have left to fight over.
Whether someone understands the technicality isn't actually that relevant because "technicality" is extremely subjective.  It would be condescending to people to pretend that they're above everyone else because not understanding technicality means that you shouldn't be able to have a strong opinion - people who do understand it change their views and have different views to other people all the times and often both sides have at least an ounce of reason.
318  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-29] West Virginia Bill Aims to Define Bitcoin as a Monetary Instrument on: April 29, 2017, 05:01:15 PM
They're trying to give themselves legitimacy by looking like they're helping Bitcoin out somewhat.  It means that some people will see this as progress even though the only reason they're doing this is so they can get away with charging taxes and regulating exchanges more heavily so that it's actually harder to buy and use Bitcoin.

It's better off as an asset.  Bitcoin doesn't need approval from governments.

Or the feigned acceptance of the US.
319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING: Exchanges are all shell games !!! on: April 29, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
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Shell Game
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_game
The shell game (also known as thimblerig, three shells and a pea, the old army game) is portrayed as a gambling game, but in reality, when a wager for money is made, it is almost always a confidence trick used to perpetrate fraud. In confidence trick slang, this swindle is referred to as a short-con because it is quick and easy to pull off.

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There's a lot of people currently living in mansions earning millions for doing nothing. They're all insolvent. It's not going to end well.

It doesn't take a prophet to see that it's only a matter of time before all these exchanges collapse.  Shocked

Now is your last chance to withdraw your coins and savings.  Shocked

Don't say I didn't warn you.  Shocked

The lord has spoken.  Shocked
Not all of exchanges as there are a lot of reputable which has been around for years, what you've mentioned was the new one maybe.
Mt. Gox had been around for years, but it "went bankrupt" and took about 200,000 Bitcoin.  It was huge.

The lesson is that Bitcoin exchanges are barely regulated and they're not insured.  People like to talk about whether banks are trustworthy when we say that exchanges are unsafe, but banks are insured by governments usually up to around $100,000 per year - they're also heavily regulated and
usually have been running for many years rather than just a few like Bitcoin exchanges.  Banks do mess around with your money but your money is safer than a Bitcoin exchange (although not a Bitcoin wallet, since those can be very, very safe).
320  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: soft-mining.net - Soft Mining on: April 29, 2017, 03:43:35 PM
$6.15 has been successfully sent to your Bitcoin account 1CN2mwTFvxgb7CuVUiYTe7hBQAZT4pn3pW.
Transaction batch is CWBD183FEQ8ZPAQWA6SLDKA3XO.


 Cool Cool Cool
Irrelevant.  Still a scam, so why should we care whether it's paying?  HashOcean lasted over a year, all it means is that they steal more people's money when they disappear.
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