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821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illinois Just Made it a Felony for Its Citizens to Record the Police on: December 10, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Well, I may just happen to be recording when I get stopped.  Wink
822  Other / Meta / Re: Who's on your Perma-troll ignore list? on: December 10, 2014, 07:04:04 PM
lol. He really has sand in the pussy. Must be new to the internet.  Tongue
That is your first post?  Roll Eyes
823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: man sentenced to 4 years for illegal bitcoin operation on: December 10, 2014, 07:01:35 PM

Oh $#!T, I think I know who that is.  Undecided

I'm certain he would not want me to name him, but I know a guy in that area with a sick mine. If it is who I think, there could be more to this story than a mine.

It says he was running an exchange.

It's not the guy I thought. He did not run an exchange, he had a few buyers to work with directly. But his mine was impressive when I saw it a few years back.
824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: man sentenced to 4 years for illegal bitcoin operation on: December 10, 2014, 06:49:14 PM
Oh $#!T, I think I know who that is.  Undecided

I'm certain he would not want me to name him, but I know a guy in that area with a sick mine. If it is who I think, there could be more to this story than a mine.

EDIT: It's not who I thought.  Smiley
825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 10, 2014, 06:42:06 PM

Evidence for God includes:
1. The complexity of the universe combined with the entropy that exists therein;
2. The fact that there isn't any pure random, rather everything exists through cause and effect;
3. And the fact that many millions have experienced the Spirit of God in their hearts.
Put these together. Investigate and think about them deeply. You will see that God is not simply a man in the sky.

The blood God has on His hands is the blood of His Son, Jesus, Who shed His blood on the cross, willingly, so that mankind has the opportunity to be saved from eternal entropy. God is as He is called, God. Because of what He made people to be, this was the only way to save any of them when they condemned themselves. He can do it because He is God. Even the blood on His hands is righteous.

When are you going to look at these things in detail so that you stop condemning yourself?

Smiley
Since I am an Athiest, I am not looking for converts and I think you should be able to think what you want. By If that is a list of reasons God must exist then it's a very weak case indeed.
1. I don't understand the world - So there must be a God.
2. There is no randomness - So there must be a God.  Huh
3. Other people believe in God -So there must be a God.
How come this only applies to the God you happen to believe in?
But anyway, believe what you want. Only you should decide that.
 
826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 10, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
All of this would be much easier if there were a God. Then she could tell us who is right. But since these are actually ideas of men, it always comes down to my invisible sky man is better than your invisible sky man. No one has more blood on his hands than God.

There is also the issue of where these stories come from. Most of the old testament is taken from Sumerian mythology. Noah and the ark is a plagiarized version of  Gilgimesh. Even new testament characters are centuries older than Jesus. Jesus himself is patterned on earlier Gods like Mythra and Ra. 
The Bible is not Christian, it's much older than that. Christianity evolved from these earlier religions in a process that continues today. It is also the same for Islam and they are close relatives on the evolutionary tree of mythology.
827  Other / Meta / Who's on your Perma-troll ignore list? on: December 10, 2014, 05:26:28 PM
I personally like to hear outsider opinions. However many of our resident trolls seem to be unteachable and it's boring to watch them make a fool of themselves daily. So I am now ignoring perma-trolls and thought I would share / trade user names.

Please list any "trolls" you see. Everyone can make their own choice about who is a troll. My benchmark is those who basically only post their "theories" or illiterate ideas about bitcoins failings. I have heard them all before and know why they are misunderstandings of Satoshi's system.
I'm certain that if a real problem with bitcoin arises the rational users here will identify it. The only thing I will be missing is FUD.



My troll list:
Fallling
Decksperiment
Phinnaeus Gage
Bitcoin ShitList
justmyname
Sevvero
NotLambchop
fewcoins

EDIT: smalltimer ,lol
 
828  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think Bitcoin ATM's will become the norm? on: December 10, 2014, 05:05:22 PM
I think as soon as the laws are clear, there will be an explosion of BTC/ATMs. Even if it costs a little more I would use one. They are especially helpful at airports and borders when you are trying to dump fiat. But I can see all sorts of use cases. For example, supose you own an amusement park. Instead of ticket booths for rides you could purchase some coins for your phone or rent a trezor while your there. At each ride you just do a spend while in line. A type of closed economy.
829  Other / Off-topic / Re: US Government Secretly holds cannabis patent on: December 10, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
Why do you say 'secretly' when the information is publicly available?

https://www.google.com/patents/US6630507

Traffic.  Cheesy
It's always gota be a grand conspiracy. I did not read the patent, but I'm sure it does not say that the government has a patent on medical use of MJ. I suspect it is a patent on a specific technique or method. Perhaps one they developed.
830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who do you think should be the fool to buy Bitcoin from you for 1000$+? on: December 10, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
Considering the explosive growth in price. One day we may all wish we could buy a whole bitcoin for only $1k. I am not aware of anything that has experienced as much growth.

 
831  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 10, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
I think if you guys spent some time in the middle east you would be shocked. Shocked at just how boring and familiar everything is. Most Muslims don't know any jihadists and are as distant from that stuff as you are from Timothy McVeigh.

They are interested in their kids, good food, and chasing money. Even their religion is basically the same as Christianity. They worship the same God of Abraham and the same stories borrowed from earlier religions.  They do tend to take religion a little more seriously than westerners and actually practice following "God's laws". Most westerners just pick and choose a few of God's laws that they are willing to obey. It's clearly sinning, but nobody likes to think of themselves as a tool of the devil, so they just pretend it's ok.
832  Economy / Speculation / Re: FAKE BITCOINS on: December 10, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
Sadly, it's time to add fewcoins to the ignore list. I kinda liked reading his funny theories, but since it's always the same the sparkle is wearing off.
833  Economy / Speculation / Re: permabulls not only lost the control over this section-in fact they are extinct on: December 10, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Another permabull, checking in. Still entirely in bitcoin, still living almost exclusively on it since June of 2013, still using it to buy all my groceries and stuff, and still converting all the cash I get into bitcoin.

Bitcoin fundamentals haven't changed. It's still better, faster, and more convenient than dollars or credit cards. Dollar, Euro, and Yuan fundamentals, on the other hand, are continuing to change, for the worse. So  Tongue


Not at the moment, hopefully that will change over the next few years

Have you ever paid for something in person with bitcoins?

Sooo easy
It sure is. The restaurant near my house has a QR code at the register. Just point-click-paid. 
834  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are your HOBBIES? on: December 09, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
Cool. I love marksmanship too. I've hit a pie plate at approx. 100 yards with my compound bow (70lbs) when I was younger. (The target was behind my fist. lol)

That's cool. I wish I was good with a bow, but they don't make targets big enough for me to hit.  Cheesy
835  Economy / Speculation / Re: the best evidence that bitcoin will succeed, courtesy of fewcoins on: December 09, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
One of the reasons old school credit cards are so expensive to use is you get protection. You have recourse in case the product or service you paid for isn't as advertised. You have insurance. Crypto offers none of that, once you pay your money is gone forever. Does anyone honestly think this will ever be mainstream? you are delusional if so.
I'd also like to add that yes, 2+ years ago btc was a great investment. The last year it's been a terrible one however, a few early adopters got rich off a bunch of late buyers. I just don't see a rise happening again, joining the bears.


Sure you get protection with a credit card. Your going to need it because credit cards are fundamentally unsafe. Of course you will pay for that and you could buy insurance for your bitcoins also. I don't because unlike my CC, I can secure my bitcoins myself.

As you point out, transactions are one way. Retailers absolutely love this. It eliminates chargebacks and other scams they often face. If your concern is that you can't get a refund, well you can. Last week I bought some honey caramels from bee's brothers. The transaction went fine, but later they sent me an email informing me that I had overpaid for shipping. They asked for an address and sent back the coins. Super easy, I didn't do anything except wait a few hours.

Lastly, this year has been the year of bitcoin. It might look bad to someone who came in at the high, but I have been doing this since BTC was $0.50. I do not "invest" in bitcoin, I use bitcoin, so what matters to me is how many places I can spend them. These are good times!
836  Economy / Economics / Re: The reason that crude oil price crashed on: December 09, 2014, 08:46:34 PM
The price is being moved down to punish Russia for what's going on with Ukraine.
Sanctions + low oil price makes for the Russian economy collapsing, if and when they fall into line, then the price will magically rise again, but I'm sure the press will attribute it to something else.

This is also definitely true.
This plus lower demand. I also wonder about the impact of lower cost solar electric products. They were starting to compete with petrol and that is the oil companies worst nightmare. People producing their own free power on site. It would ruin them. 
837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is failing, People are getting out, $550 in 24 hours on: December 09, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
I like fallin more than fewcoins.  Fallin's name was just so much more dramatic.

As I said, I ride this train to zero, the price can do w/e it feels like.  I am in bitcoin forever now.. BTC will live as long as there are miners.

Nobody asked you who you liked... I like money more than any of you & I will continue to make more and more money off you idiots who don't listen!

Instead of us all making money together you rather keep bashing! Keep it up!!!  Kiss
If you are making money off idiots like me... Then where did I get all this money?
838  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are your HOBBIES? on: December 09, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
champagne drinking, horse breeding and cuban cigars... Wink
How do the horses feel about that? Sure they get some Campaign and a cigar, but it sounds like they earn it.  Cheesy Just kidding.

My current main hobby is precision long distance shooting. On a good day I can hit a watermelon from 1000Yds.   
839  Economy / Lending / Re: NEED LOAN Of 0.009 on: December 09, 2014, 08:21:21 PM
A $3 loan.  Roll Eyes
Give me a break. Why would you even bother screwing with such a small amount?
840  Economy / Speculation / Re: the best evidence that bitcoin will succeed, courtesy of fewcoins on: December 09, 2014, 08:16:20 PM

This is very true. Even I can't deny this fact since I am not an ultimate troll like some of you claim but rather a realist.
Many of my employees are now mentioning bitcoin almost everyday instead of talking about USD, EURO, etc. This is true that more and more people are finding out about bitcoin. I asked if they would want a small percentage in bitcoin rather than USD but I only get laughing responses. Most of the world is not ready to use this as a currency yet. Hopefully they see how good it can be if we all jumped in and supported the network but unfortunately humans are not very proactive anymore & they tend to like direct deposit and banks stealing their money. Actually it's not they like it but they aren't proactive especially for ANY change. Especially if governments and banks say no no no bitcoin that isn't good you shouldn't use that.

This is why I see Bitcoin as very hard to invest in. It is more for trading or "speculating" which means it actually has no real value yet. Zero. This is also why the blockchain and other technology will be "used" (stolen) to be applied to other payment systems and make them more secure. I think Australia is already doing something like that for their banks right now
We are not so far apart. I agree with most of what you say once its broken down. I don't think most people or businesses are ready for bitcoin yet. However it is to their detriment. I have helped businesses set up their BTC systems and they are all glad they did it.
I am a little confused about speculation vs. investing. Those are the same thing to me, and I think it is a very risky thing to do with BTC. It is much better as the payment network it was designed to be.
In the long term, barring some black swan, I am very confident that bitcoin will grow exponentially from the infancy it is in now. There is no better money in history and once people understand just how radically different this is from anything else it will seem foolish to use an old skool credit card.
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