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961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: July 20, 2014, 03:06:07 PM
running the math on this, the IPO price point is expensive and quite frankly a little greedy. A top 10 market cap basically before launch? That's an awfully optimistic valuation

The math you're running is faulty.

Show me your calculations and I'll show you a back of the envelope calculation that disproves your premise.


Your argument:

Premise 1: The IPO price point will get syscoin to the top 10 in terms of market cap.

Conclusion 1: The developers are greedy

Not only is this a faulty argument, but if

the 1500 BTC worth of pre-sale

is 15% then 100% equals a market cap of: 0.15x = 1500   x= 10000 BTC

which is a top 14.

Top 14 Does not equal Top 10.

 



Its not even top 14 at launch it would currently be 35th, he is talking about the market cap at launch which is only roughly $1,160,000 at ipo price assuming all of the presale sells, after 60 days of mining it will still only be roughly $1,350,000 at ipo price, if the presale doesnt sell out it will be even less.

I dont know why everyone is valuating this coin as if all 2 billion coins will be generated at launch


It's basically dumb fuck math.

If you used the same math on VIAcoin before launch you would of had a valuation of about 6 million dollars....if you include all the coins that are intended to be mined, yet right now it gives 400% of original IPO price.....how can this be!!!!!!! omg!!!!!111!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah it's dumb fuck math

I agree that my calculation is of no real use to investors.

It is a back of the envelope calculation.

I can't stress that enough.


Since I can't predict the future I should only calculate the Cap after a week or a month at most, and then be horribly wrong when that date arrives.

We can't know the price of BTC at launch.

I just wanted to call out the other guy for faulty calculations. These facts help my case.

962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: July 20, 2014, 02:35:27 PM
running the math on this, the IPO price point is expensive and quite frankly a little greedy. A top 10 market cap basically before launch? That's an awfully optimistic valuation

The math you're running is faulty.

Show me your calculations and I'll show you a back of the envelope calculation that disproves your premise.


Your argument:

Premise 1: The IPO price point will get syscoin to the top 10 in terms of market cap.

Conclusion 1: The developers are greedy

Not only is this a faulty argument, but if

the 1500 BTC worth of pre-sale

is 15% then 100% equals a market cap of: 0.15x = 1500   x= 10000 BTC

which is a top 14.

Top 14 Does not equal Top 10.

 

963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: July 20, 2014, 02:04:25 PM
@Artlover

I agree, I liked coinex earlier on but they did lie once, but being an idiot I still left some stuff on their exchange.


Lost it all.

I'm lucky I didn't have any BTC in there at the very least. This was a very expensive lesson.

964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: July 20, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
Perhaps there is room for a service in buying smaller chunks of Syscoin,

I can do this for you for a fee of 0.1% of the amount of Syscoins you get. Or you can bunch up together and do a group buy.
965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - Presale Started! on: July 20, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
I would translate your page into Greek, however I know that most tech savvy Greeks know really good English therefore, I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

If you ask me to, I'll consider doing it before I go on vacation.

The extra reach you'll get will probably be a few more people that will read the pre-ann.
966  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your computer specs/pictures on: July 14, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
Let's just say,

Intel i7 (2.00GHz)
4gb ram
1080p laptop scren
Nvidia gt540m


It does well enough when games aren't concerned. It's 3 years old, and can't really keep up with running all I want it to run.

The CPU overheats the whole system but it being a laptop I dread having to unscrew screws for hours
just to change the thermal compound.

A good, gaming quality pad barely does the trick and I have used compressed air many times.

I'm thinking of getting an ASUS_ROG laptop but I don't know if they last long...
967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 99,9% ARE SHITCOINS - so don't waste your time or money on: July 14, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
Yes, most altcoins are shit however we do need innovation more than anything.

Perhaps something that is more energy efficient then bitcoin, or something with more advanced features, better code, more efficient at data, more scalable.

It is clear when something is just a money grab and one has to be infinitely critical of new coins, and approach them not to profit, but to see innovation, because
innovation does help everyone in the end.


That being said, well though critical post on shitcoin ann posts need to be made, and that's where the forum members come in! (and perhaps good journalists).
968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange on: July 14, 2014, 12:21:23 PM
I have lost lots of money on coinex, and after a few months I see that no progress has been made.
I am ready to offer a 10 btc bounty on this guy (Vitaliy Sorokin). Hope other people will join me, if we can make it high enough maybe somebody serious will get interested and will be able to track down and eliminate this scumbag from the face of the earth.

That's not the way to get your money back. However my 2 cents are this:

If you want something to get done properly you have to do it yourself.
You can't trust others easily cause they might give you away to the authorities.
You might lose your money trying to hire a killer or you might get picked up by the authorities.
Maybe get help to track him down, then eliminate him yourself, Killing people is way easier than people think.
Get a small amount of a highly radioactive metal, dissolve it in a solution, and inject it into the victim.
Get a strong alpha emitter, it's going to be harmless to carry but when injected, deadly and nearly untraceable.

969  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Take Back America on: July 13, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
Don't forget about jury nullification. If you as a juror decide a law is unjust or unconstitutional, it is your right under law to declare the defendant not guilty in spite of the law. Of course the judge and prosecutor will tell you otherwise, because their pensions depend on regular convictions, court fees, and seizures.

Do you have to keep the idea of nullification under wraps? Revealing your intentions would definitely reveal bias...
970  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ban the person above you (jokingly). on: July 13, 2014, 04:42:20 AM
Banned for too much quoting
Banned for editing your post, I think.

Banned for being unsure of his own actions.
Banned for caring to reply.

Banned for discouraging replies.
971  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is bitcoin (and cryptocurrencies) libertarian ? on: July 13, 2014, 04:40:05 AM
I don't believe it is. It's a technology. You can't associate it to the slimy chameleons that are most politicians.
972  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now on: July 13, 2014, 03:15:46 AM
The north has been moving Norther and Norther (closer to the pole from somewhere in Canada).

The weakening of the magnetic field is worrying, it would probably mean that we need to build our satellites way more resiliently armored against radiation (so our astronauts don't get cooked with it).

But the field is always in flux, we need to find a way to get historical data to examine this further.
973  Other / Off-topic / Re: Freebitco.in earn bitcoins using Martingale betting system on: July 10, 2014, 05:16:57 PM
Well, the martingale method doesn't work if the chances are fair or negative.

Which is to say that it doesn't work if the bet is fair.

Interestingly it seems to give the house an edge as when you lose, you lose big.

I would bet good money that it was invented by a casino to earn more cash.
974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Islamic State Really Using Bitcoin? on: July 10, 2014, 02:22:56 PM
It doesn't really matter.

I didn't read the whole thing as I don't hold vice in the highest esteem when it comes to matters that require more thought than "Look at this cool thing we're filming". This sensationalism on their part is probably not malicious.

Given enough pressure they'll correct themselves.

Bitcoin is one of those things that are so beneficial to the many that cannot be stopped by a little bad publicity. From when I started using it I can't imagine myself going through all the trouble of banks to do most of my online stuff.

975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Elites at Coinsummit on: July 10, 2014, 02:09:14 PM
Exchange Bitcoin elites for Dollar elites
Result = fucking same

Not really, with bitcoin elites there can be more transparency as well as more equality as there is no money printing (well technically there is, according to mining power).

But we have control of our money rather than having to trust the elites (banks) to play nice. (Which they don't)

So the result goes slightly in the right direction.

Result = Slightly improved, like an inch.
976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have officially made it into the 100 Bitcoin club on: July 10, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
Running 1000 miles over the course of your lifetime is not a big achievement.

Running one thousand miles at once is.

Mr. Kouros holds the record for 1000 miles run! He finished 24 hours faster than anyone I think.

So if you don't control 100 Bitcoins, you're not in the fictional bitcoin 100 club.


As long as you're in the above 10 Bitcents club you're a big player in my opinion.
977  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ban the person above you (jokingly). on: July 10, 2014, 01:59:52 PM
Banned for demanding BFL justice.

Banned for supporting BFL!

Banned for talking on a forum rather than vandalizing BFL labs.
978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 7 - 7 - 7 (Not for sheeple. Takes a doze of intelligence and concentration) on: July 08, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
And I quote "A doze of intelligence".

You're running on fumes.
979  Other / Off-topic / Re: FIFA World Cup 2014!!! on: June 29, 2014, 11:04:22 PM
Gutted for Greece - they are true warriors, far too stubborn to simply leave the competition without a fight.

Costa Rica did well, I can't get my head around how they managed with 10 men for so long, then come up with penalties like that. Absolute masterclass in penalty taking.

Their energy levels are insane. Against Italy even after 80th minute they were pressing and closing down hard.

I'm Greek and I have to say that our goalkeeper seemed really distracted. Costa Rica's goalkeeper on the other hand is amazing, he is like a real life spiderman!
980  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'm calling it, 2014 will be the lowest year in arctic sea ice minimum (~Sep10) on: June 29, 2014, 05:26:38 PM
Is this a prediction for just this year (new record low this year) or a prediction forever (it'll never go below this year)?

It is a non-scientific guesstimation for breaking the summer low record at around september 10.

I'm basing it on the exponentially lower summer minimums of arctic ice and the extra CO2 and methane on the atmosphere + Historical and current data.

It is not, however based on any models, equations, or scientific fact. More like calling a bet.

Edit: So the prediction is just for this year and not forever.
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