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Those who are outside canada and were a victim to this, also take a copy of your report plus the proofs of his identity to a canadian embassy near you, they can block his passport prevent him from leaving the country.
... Hello Mister Ambassador! How are you? I am not so well. On or around December 26, it became apparent that the illegal ponzi website I was promoting via "sig campaign" will not be able to meet the nonbinding non-contractual obligations entered into on its behalf by yahoo293874. This is because Master-P, the trusted escrow agent employed by Messrs yahoo293874 and aforementioned illegal website, had his wallets encrypted by a h4xx0r3r. According to Mr. Gleb Gamow, an internet privite eye of considerable renown, the screen name Master-P is an alias of Armina Dastous, a Canadian citizen, or person otherwise operating from Canadian soil. Ambassador, I would like to be made whole. I am owed 0.01 bitcoin, which is roughly $5 US, not sure how much that is in your Canadian moneys. Plz halp. |
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Please lock this thread and have mater-p open a self moderated thread so we can get away from all the bullshit and get people their money back.
Scam accusation threads cannot be self moderated. Both the victims and the accused need to be able to present their side of the story/evidence in these types of threads. New forum software idea: Multisig threads. Like self-moderated threads, only two(or more) people (in this case, victims and the accused) must agree delete post, instead of just one. Pretty clever, I must say  |
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^^ You'd have a great point if the begging was for a good cause -- curing cancer or saving puppies or getting some decent smack. It's not. It's for a shifty 'passive profits' web wallet/scammy cloud mining/gambling sites. If you're running shit like that and you STILL have to beg, you're doing it fucking wrong  On a more practical note, have the scumbags reputable establishments yahoo62278 represents actually refuse to pay? If not, WTF is yahoo doing, and, if yes, lets give them some red trust, so that people would know them for the scumbags reputable establishments that they are. |
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yahoo62278 is just doing his part at least pay those who participated in the campaign which is a good gesture rather than sit back and wait for payments coming from escrow. I don't see a reason why campaign managers will be held liable for the loss since they are just managing the campaign and funds are not held by them. No campaign manager would like this to happen so lets not put pressure on the campaign managers please.
It's not his place to decide if the participants get paid. No more than it's my place to decide if they get paid. It's not his place to insult the spammers participants for wanting the 'measly $5" that's owed them. According to him, he's just a post-counting peon, never touches the money. Why the begging thread then? @Quickseller: I'm not surprised. My creditors expect me to pay them, regardless of my getting robbed. I, in turn, expect the same from my debtors. And where do you expect the funds will come from? From Master-P? He's gone or something to that nature. What's wrong with the begging thread? yahoo62278 is going beyond of what is being expected from him so what is wrong with that? The money would come from the scumbags reputable establishments yahoo62278 represents, where it always (allegedly) comes from, where else? Have you visited the Ore Mine website? He's They're totally huge bro, paying out thousands of BTC, according to him them! I'd think 1 BTC won't break them, especially since community-conscious yahoo will forfeit his cut for greater justice  >What's wrong with the begging thread? Begging is not allowed on bitcointalk. It's one of the few stated rules here. |
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yahoo62278 is just doing his part at least pay those who participated in the campaign which is a good gesture rather than sit back and wait for payments coming from escrow. I don't see a reason why campaign managers will be held liable for the loss since they are just managing the campaign and funds are not held by them. No campaign manager would like this to happen so lets not put pressure on the campaign managers please.
It's not his place to decide if the participants get paid. No more than it's my place to decide if they get paid. It's not his place to insult the spammers participants for wanting the 'measly $5" that's owed them. According to him, he's just a post-counting peon, never touches the money. Why the begging thread then? @Quickseller: I'm not surprised. My creditors expect me to pay them, regardless of my getting robbed. I, in turn, expect the same from my debtors. *I would also fire any employee who, unbeknownst to me, told my creditors to STFU about the 'measly' sums I owe them. |
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[...] all parties to a transaction agreed to use a particular person as escrow.
No. Read the Coinbet sig thread. No mention of participants' pay depending on the escrow not running away. I expect to receive the wages promised me, unless the company employing me declares bankruptcy. Both the gambling site & the totally real ugaise cloud mining/web wallet/MLM operations claim to be doing just fine. In the case of Coinbet, it would be coinbet that is responsible for making the payments as they would be the one who received the benefit of the signature advertising. The campaign manager is merely an employee Fine. Who is behind Coinbet, let's paint their trust red. (have't checked the wording in his other thing, the cloud mining/web wallet/MLM operation. Doing that now. Edit: Done. Same shit. Who's behind Ore mining? Let's paint their trust red. |
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[...] all parties to a transaction agreed to use a particular person as escrow.
No. Read the Coinbet sig thread. No mention of participants' pay depending on the escrow not running away. I expect to receive the wages promised me, unless the company employing me declares bankruptcy. Both the gambling site & the totally real ugaise cloud mining/web wallet/MLM operations claim to be doing just fine. @madjules007: Begging for money is not, strictly, "by the book." Either OP or the scumbags reputable establishments he represents ripped off the spammerscampaign participants. OP didn't incur any spam-related losses. He lost the coin he was selling (@+10% lol). The scumbags reputable establishments he represents incur any losses. The spammerscampaign participants did. And they ain't begging. Not even asking for their due |
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How do you say that i stiffed anyone? I dont see how you think its my responsibility to pay the campaigns if the escrow took off with the funds?
1. Were you told by the scumbags reputable establishments you represent that they refuse to honor their debts? 2. Did the participants entered into a contractual agreement with you, scumbags reputable establishments you represent, or Master-P? I opened that thread to try and get the ppl currently in those campaigns some of their pay.
In a separate thread, you claimed losses of 6+ BTC. 3. Did the scumbags reputable establishments you represent authorize you to beg on this forum, on their behalf? And to claim their losses as yours? 4. In your begging thread, you ask people to display the sigs from the scumbags reputable establishments you represent for free. Did the scumbags reputable establishments you represent authorize this? I have 0 money to my name as my funds were taken by the same guy.
Yeah, life's unfair like that. Please answer the questions enumerated above. ty. |
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^^You misunderstood me. I'm just amazed by how willingly people get scammed here. And how willingly they return for more. And how hostile they get when told "hey, you're about to get scammed again."
Take this yahoo[somenumber] character. Stiffed everyone on his spam campaigns (apparently, because the totally-not-his ponzi he was promoting got stiffed by Master-P), is asking for handouts in another thread, and only *one* person asked for the pittance due them.
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>they have had chances to steal MUCH MUCH more.
Heard that about *every scam on bitcointalk.* Each and every one.
Second in popularity only to "Why would they [do ___] if they were scamming? It just don't make no sense!"
Not dissing either OG or Blazed, BTW, have no reason to.
P.S. didn't you say you were going to dump the dox today?
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The difference is Master-P only had good reputation for about a year. OGNasty and Blazed have been here much longer and have been trusted with much greater amounts. [...]
So what you're telling me is OGNasty and Blazed are even more trustworthy than Master-P?  Is such a thing even possible? [...]
I don't think it has been entirely ruled out, just that it is unlikely he got hacked.
I suppose. Wasn't he into crypto and stuff? You suppose OGNasty and Blazed are any better at securing their boxen? Odd number of h4xx0rings in a community so well versed in comp. security/obsessive about privacy. |
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Good point, but if I was the hacker ... then I will move the coin as soon as possible.
I keep hearing that. Can you explain why? Because then two people would have access to the coins. The thief would want to move the coins out ASAP so that the owner cannot reclaim them. Likewise the owner would want to move the coins out to another wallet ASAP so that the thief cannot steal them. Still don't get it -- you mean we're assuming that "the hacker" isn't Master-P? Hasn't this been ruled out? |
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Good point, but if I was the hacker ... then I will move the coin as soon as possible.
I keep hearing that. Can you explain why? |
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I am still confused why anyone would trust a deal without escrow, and a person with RED reputation.
Master-P was one of the "Big 5" -- most trusted escrows on this forum. He was also on the default trust. The red trust happened later. |
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and then what?
if the escrow runs away the customer can post a pic that turns out to be some random guy with a wig and a fake ID?
the point is - this won't be enough to defeat someone who is DETERMINED to scam and also this won't help if there is a collusion/fake trade
a person who is well-known publicly might be a more reliable escrow but then why would such a person do escrow in a shitty forum for a measly 1%
The person who wants to scam would definitely do so. However, if his ID is verified along with his address proof, he can easily be arrested if he scams any user. Master-P scammed $12000 which is a huge amount and if his ID is known, he can get arrested for cheating. It's a criminal offense after all and no scammer should escape. >arrested for cheating That a felony where you're at? Before anything happens, someone must press charges. Who? Yahoo1728736? The guy promoting an illegal gambling site & "web wallet/cloud miner/ponzi scheme"? Rly? Most of the transactions here are grossly illegal, and folks behind them are (at best) tax cheats/petty scufflaws, and (more likely) fraudsters themselves -- a crack whore is more comfortable with calling the cops. "Can't cheat an honest man" ain't helping any of the 'victims' here, you can count on that. Because the scammers sure do. Another thing the scammers count on is that each individual swindle is pathetically small, less than a few grand, not worth going after. Yet another is that victims are spread out across the globe, different jurisdictions. TL;DR: As ridiculous as trying to bring in the cops on a bad dope deal. Prove me wrong  |
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What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?
Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him.  It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served. You mean, hire a detective to chase after $2k? Never tried that myself, are they really that cheap? Or do you mean like hire one of those detectives in China or India, where the wages are low, so they could track down Master-P in their own neck of the wood? How about this: dress up in your fedora, order (bonus: on DNM) one of those detective kits with a plastic spy glass, a plastic gun, and a plastic "DETECTIVE" badge, and do the job yourself? I mean, about as real as everything else here, why break stylistic consistency? I'm sure Master-P the trusted escrow wouldn't mind/care/know the difference. |
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well it would be fair if ore-mine paid for the work people did at least partially as they are not responsible for this scam that happened
And where would these funds come from? THE ESCROW STOLE THE MONEY. It would def be nice if users werent so greedy themselves as well. Maybe have a little compassion for the guys who just lost their asses vs worrying about your measly 5$. Sorry to come off as a dick here but jesus really?  youre the type of users that seems to be waiting to fuck someone over only worrying about yourself Yes i can agree it would be nice to see users paid for the half week but how do you ask a guy that just lost 2.2btc to give some more so youre paid your small amount?The same way my plumber asks me to pay my bill, even tho I tell him I got mugged? The same way my bank asks me to pay my mortgage, even tho some guy stole the cash I planned to send them? WTF is wrong with you bro? Your cloud scam doesn't want to pay the people it hired? Because they (allegedly) got ripped off by a quicker crook? You think that's fine? And you're asking for handouts in this thread? And it's OK to insult the participants, because they're asking for the "measly 5$" you owe them?! |
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No one is asking for anything here but me. Not 1 of the sites i was representing asked me to post on their behalf. Im just seeing if anyone is willing to help. If they are, awesome. If theyre not, cool. Its not a must do situation and not one of you has to do a damn thing here.
Exactly where do you think trolling is helping anyone here?
If the reputable companies aren't asking you to panhandle on their behalf, kindly refrain from doing so. The no begging rule is still in effect here, AFAIK. ty |
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He was one of the big five, and stop being sarcastic in this kind of situation.
This situation is somehow unusual? You don't see anything odd about a clod mining outfit asking for handouts? How about a dice site? Not sure about the third spam campaign, since it wasn't mentioned. Maybe the third one's the charmed. |
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If this is in the wrong section id like a mod to move it to the appropriate section please.
That would probably be the Begging Section. We ain't got one, AFAIK. This is gonna come off as a bit odd but id like to see if theres anyone in the community willing to help with 2 things. Im sure youve all read the whole mess with master-P and with that happening i currently have 3 campaigns that will not be paid out. Is that your problem? Well no its not your problem at all, but if i can get someone to create an escrow address(preferrably dooglus or someone of his stature) and if any of you guys could donate some coin to the address that would be a great showing from the community.
Have you tried Master-P? I hear he's pretty trustworthy If you bothered to actually look at the scam accusations against him, you'll see that he's not. Huh, thanks for the heads-up. Wasn't he one of "The Big Five" or something? These other trusted escrows tho, they're OK, right? Should we go with Maidak, or Quickseller perhaps? Would suck if people donated all their money to the totally righteous cloud farm & Dice site, and then found out they've been had. Again |
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