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241  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 22, 2013, 06:41:22 AM
Holy shit, China is just not stopping.

Not only will they not stop pushing the price up, but the walls go up immediately behind them!

Like it always has been!



Nice thought, nice pic Smiley
242  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 22, 2013, 06:40:37 AM

I'd much rather see the price chill out and correct around here or a bit lower for a few weeks at least. 

I agree. However I don't think this will happen...

Looking at these rally angles on the same chart as above (but for gox over its history) every time was in different circumstances and though they may look similar there are so many different factors at play, whilst we can convince ourselves we 'know' how this is going to turn out I think we're largely kidding ourselves (pretty TA charts or not).  I really don't know where this is going nor for how long other than that there appears to be a momentum up right now and I would tend to agree it's more likely to continue for the time being (with minor corrections) than not.

243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 22, 2013, 06:29:40 AM
Within ten minutes!
$200 within ten minutes or a correction? Wink
244  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 22, 2013, 06:12:59 AM
someone needs to buy these bitcoins while they're still cheap.  once we hit 200 we're just gonna flyyyyy
Not wanting to piss on your parade but with the gox price becoming less relevant by the day (considering total CNY vol and bitstamp) 'gox hitting $200' is thankfully MUCH less of a big deal than last time.  I'm hoping the fact of this rise happening over multiple exchanges and currencies makes it less likely that speculation gets too carried away than before simply on the basis of a nice round number on one exchange.

I'd much rather see the price chill out and correct around here or a bit lower for a few weeks at least.  However, with the bottom chart as one of my trend indicators I'm not intending to volunteer my bitcoins to sell to take the heat out of the buying frenzy any time soon so we'll just have to wait and see Smiley



245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 21, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
^^ +1 I like it Smiley It's all in the context.
246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 16, 2013, 10:10:24 AM
When this puppy hits $169 we'll be at $2 billion market cap.

Wouldn't $169 on Gox as 'market cap' be even less meaningful than before due to Gox's premium existing due only to choked fiat?
247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 16, 2013, 10:02:49 AM
now bitcoin, gold and silver all collapsing? enjoy the ride Smiley

If only houses in earthquake areas 'collapsed' in this manner!!

248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Breaking news: Baidu (NASDAQ:BIDU) accepts BITCOIN! on: October 15, 2013, 10:50:35 PM
Let's be realistic this is probably nothing to do with Baidu management or employees but some techy in a newly acquired subsidiary who convinced the boss to accept Bitcoin for their DDoS protection service.

I accept there is a realistic probability that this is the case (as I acknowledged).  However, we should know this pretty soon if it is the case because the publicity will force the hand of the mother company to do some research as to its legitimacy.  They could embrace it, just let the experiment run even if it wasn't deliberate or, if China really doesn't want Bitcoin to be more than a minuscule novelty, instruct them to quietly drop it.
249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 15, 2013, 10:45:12 PM

I wonder if he failed to realize the banks have already been fighting bitcoin. Accounts associated with bitcoin transactions are shut down just about every day. The US government has begun tying up any organization affiliated with bitcoin with a bundle of red tape. Bitcoin business is moving or growing outside of the US for these reasons. Everything short of declaring it illegal in the US has already taken place. I can only assume that the recent interest with subpeonas and meetings with BTC foundation are to get an understanding of exactly how to write that law in a way that it only applies to bitcoin, or other crypto forks. Digital currency is a whole lot more agile than US law, so they need to get it just right, and it needs to be a surprise.

That being said, the next step is "then you win".

Even if they take all the preparatory steps and design this perfect law to criminalise Bitcoin's use for legit businesses if things keep going as they are they will not dare take the step of implementing it for fear of losing out to the rest of the world which appears to be in the process of reaping the rewards of crypto's agility in facilitating commerce.  As I said on the Baidu thread, fear of losing power to other nations is a massive motivator for the US - even more I think than losing power to its own citizens - which is what Bitcoin has the potential to empower.
250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Breaking news: Baidu (NASDAQ:BIDU) accepts BITCOIN! on: October 15, 2013, 10:38:36 PM
A few of thoughts regarding this:

Unless, as suggested above, this is something the Jashule team have gone ahead with independently of the mother-company what I'm liking the thought of is that Baidu, in doing something as controversial are in my opinion almost certainly have checked out with govt officials whether there was any imminent ban.

Much more than the number of customers or amount of bitcoins that are used to buy their services for me is that this may be seen by other companies who have been considering it but with caution.

I love that it comes the day after the Chinese official guy talking about the need to de-Americanize global finance so that the whole world doesn't have to hold its breath when US politicians are throwing toys out of their pram.

I love it that if it is true that this is a sign that China may allow cryptocurrencies to thrive (I know that's many ifs) then it puts real pressure on the States to get its act together. If there's one thing we can be sure of it is that fear of losing out on the global power stage is a massive motivator for the US.  If they realise there is a minute chance what is happening is a major redistribution of wealth they have a big incentive to get their act together and put a stop to the red-tape jungle that is all the various states with their own petty money transmission laws.

In the meantime the rest of the world has a chance to catch up a bit on the headstart the US had with Bitcoin.  And even though many of the early hoards may be owned by Americans, being of the crypto-libertarian kind this may not benefit the US power-hungry ruling classes much anyway Smiley

I'm struggling to think of anything bad about this other maybe than there's a danger of news and wild speculation getting out of hand and landing us in a massive rally followed by another severe correction.  But even if/when that happens it doesn't destroy the protocol, Bitcoin will prevail Smiley
251  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: October 14, 2013, 07:21:30 PM
I guess we disagree on this question, then. For the overall size of the market, and as a result, for overall buying pressure, it matters a lot whether new participants enter, or whether the same ones trade back and forth.

What's the difference between an old-time bitcoiner adding a fresh $1,000 worth of bitcoin to his porfolio/trading account than a new person coming along with $1,000?
252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 02, 2013, 05:23:18 PM
Plus, its incredible creepy how DPR hired a murder of a canadian guy, he paid 1500 BTC for it and received a pic of the corpse of the guy. What a piece of shit, I lost all respect for him.

I don't. If you try to blackmail someone that is exactly what you're asking for imo.

I strongly disagree. I personally cannot have anything else that hate and despise for someone who hires a hitman and pays upon receival of the picture of the corpse.

Read the indictment. He gives to the hitman all the details of the canadian guy, including "Wife + 3 kids".

Honestly, I'm about to vomit.

Aren't you jumping to conclusions here?  These are only allegations atm.  The BBC even says '...the court documents note that Canadian law enforcers have said there was no record of a homicide taking place in White Rock, British Columbia at the time.'  There are many possible explanations for what we see (including the authorities planting stuff on his servers, desperate that he doesn't become a martyr for the libertarian cause).  Time may tell, but we may never know for sure.
253  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will The Bitcoin Investment Trust affect the price? on: September 27, 2013, 11:50:09 PM
Price impact: Dramatically up

But not right away. Consider what will happen:

1) It will take X days, weeks, or months for the initial few million $ worth to be bought up. Those purchases have no effect on the exchange price, or maybe even a mild negative effect if some who were buying coins steadily via the exchanges switch over to BIT.

2) Once the initial few million in seed is bought up, Second Market will start to purchase more, maybe $5-10 million worth. If they do part or all of this on an exchange, the price impact will of course be strongly positive. However, given how many contacts they have for private placement, they'll likely acquire part or all of those coins from dark, non-exchange sources. If they purchase very few of those coins on exchanges, the immediate price impact will be negligible, but the medium-term effect will be dramatic.  

The reason why is a bit subtle but very real: Insofar as the people Second Market buys the coins from would have sold those coins on exchanges if it weren't for SM giving them the wonderful opportunity to sell without slippage, that much less BTC is going to be available on the exchanges. The same amount of money chasing fewer BTC means a higher price per coin. But there will be a time delay, perhaps days or weeks, maybe in some cases months.

The fun part is that those who understand the time delay get to make money off those who are fooled by the time delay. Translation: Buy before the price rises and get in on the ground floor of the next stage of the bitcoin rocket.

if i were in charge of purchasing the coins for the trust i would make sure to buy a healthy part at the exchanges to drive up price. that will make BIT look even more attractive since performace inreases with price.

I am hoping those in charge of purchasing coins for the trust would have a longer-view than that and will buy as cheaply as they can for as long as they can providing demand for the BIT continues.  If they are as bullish about bitcoin as they appear to be I guess they will share my belief that there is no need to push the price up.  It is better for their customers longer-term to have acquired more cheaper if they are planning on holding long-term.  The longer these low prices continue the higher the proportion of the bitcoins in existence the trust will have acquired.*

Also, buying on exchange with the purpose of artificially pushing up the price when they could buy cheaper is ridiculously short-term.  If those from whom they could have bought cheaper then go to the exchange it will bring the price back down.  That is not good for prospective investor confidence.

* Personally I would prefer a higher proportion of these low-priced coins in the hands of the creative and the innovative as opposed to professional wealth accumulators.  I have let all the good people I know know and if they've decided not to participate that's their lookout.  However, I digress... Smiley
254  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: September 19, 2013, 06:16:28 AM
Oh look, someone ate most of the bidwall. Btw that 800 ask isn't particularly large, and i  don't think its new either

yea and then they bought it right back 60 seconds later for a $ less minus fees...

History graph doesn't show any indication of that...?

yes there is no way to prove that it was the same actor, but someone came in and bought 900ish right after around 1100 was dumped

Okay, so the guy sold and then put up an ask wall? Because doing an 1100 sell caused $3 slippage. A 900 buy would have probably moved the price to eating into the $128 askwall.

Could also just be someone painting the ticker for vol, bringing stamp usd 24hr volume up to 50% which looks impressive for anyone not realising there's only peanuts being traded virtually anywhere atm.

255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: September 05, 2013, 10:45:42 PM
SHA 256 was developed by the NSA and the article says they developed encryption they could break.  Why would they develop encryption they couldn't break?  So, if they can hack it or have a back-door, someone else may figure out a way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Hash_Algorithm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency

I'm sure this must have been posted before but the sensationalist and water-muddying articles in the mainstream press of late keep concerning people so...

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/09/black-budget-what-exactly-are-the-nsas-cryptanalytic-capabilities/
256  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: September 05, 2013, 09:41:32 PM
Your picture is wrong.
Today's range for Bitstamp: $116.07 - $127.50

Thank you.  Don't know how that happened.  I think you're likely to be correct that it was an anomaly in either the data on bitcoincharts.com or my screenscraping of it to my spreadsheet.  Here's how it looks now:

257  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: September 05, 2013, 09:09:50 PM
Edit: Please see posts below.  It is likely this was not correct!...

Now here's a situation I've not seen before!



Interesting times Smiley
258  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: September 04, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
Ooh, this I find fascinating Smiley - OK, I know it's small volumes overall but interesting nevertheless:

259  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: September 02, 2013, 01:33:04 PM
Looks like we're on an all time high on the weekly 2week weighted average chart (the one I look to to take out noise).



I much prefer the slope of this rally than that of April and on Bitstamp alone the volume is also looking healthy too though I'd rather see the volume over all major exchanges (which I take to be substantially down) for more confidence this is for real.  However, I am not one of those concerned about 'manipulators' nor that the price is too high.  I'd just prefer the increase slowed down a bit to give more groovy people the chance to jump on board before the institutions do Smiley
260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 27, 2013, 07:42:20 AM
Putting aside the possibility this buy was on 'insider knowledge' (it's not that rare to see buying of this nature on this scale) I'm not persuaded by the suggestion this is someone new entering the market (why the dickens would they want to buy at gox prices?).  If it is money that was already on gox likelihood is it is money that came from the sale of bitcoins sometime in the last four months.  I'm guessing I was not alone upon seeing the first drop deciding simply not to buy until I was reasonably confident the downtrend had finished.  I recommenced buying ten days ago.  I certainly wasn't the bravest nor the first but I'm also guessing I'm far from the last.

Remember a huge amount of USD was taken out of bitcoins in late April/May, some of it for good but much more I suspect on the wait-and-see principle.  Now it's looking less likely by the day that something disastrous is going to happen to the currency itself (a gox collapse excepted) so deciding just to go for it one night/morning (depending where these few buyers are) doesn't seem so unreasonable a behaviour.

Granted if they wanted to get the most bitcoins for their money they could have spent some time watching the walls and trading as many here do but not everybody has the time nor the interest to be playing that game.  On the bigger scale of things if they got out at a fair price to protect their assets with view to getting back in after the downtrend and are expecting this thing to resume exponential growth losing a few percentage points on slippage getting back in is not a big deal.

Of course I could be totally wrong and this may be the 'hammer' as I'm sure someone will be only to happy to remind us...

But this is how my preferred long-term wma weekly is currently looking:

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