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I am seeing a lot of posts asking for investments idea! I do believe for 5 bitcoins holder or less, hold! It will reach $10,000. Don't risk losing it! cheers!
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lol first time I ever used the "ignore" button too it seems.
But hey, its normal when dealing with shills that are arguing legal fact with misdirection, misconception, and equal amounts of ignorance.
My account does not have much activity on it because I don't care for dealing with misdirecting shills using logical fallacies in attempt to establish their rhetorical positions. But I've been here, before I even made an account, lurking, for 9 years. I've seen countless large scale scam attempts hit the community.
And I have watched many a scammer's life destroyed. From federal indictments, to class action lawsuits, to scammers running from their home countries, to some simply disappearing without any trace - generally I assume someone 'caught up' with them.
There's always going to be sock puppets that argue. There's always going to be daddy-complex jackasses looking for an outlet for the hugs they never got as children.
There will always be scammers - no matter what kind of business is being dealt in.
I live by the rule: "walk softly but carry a big fucking stick covered in the dried blood of your fallen enemies."
I'm from Philly, what can I say? People die here every day for much much less than the money crypto-nerds argue over. Don't believe me? Google "Kensington, Philadelphia" and see what the DEA says about the neighborhood. Heroin is part of the culture there. Gangs control entire blocks police won't go near. If the cops cross them, they put hits out on the cops. None of this is make-believe bullshit.
Being a bitch is a choice. And where I'm from it can get you killed.
So yes. I am defensive about my assets. They are my livelihood and I won't tolerate some punkass kids trying to rip me off. Period.
And I am aware that the Bitcoin community is NOT Philadelphia, lol.
That does not change my preparedness to defend myself.
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Yeah, you wouldn't. You can attempt to debunk the fact that Polo holds MY property that I deposited into their exchange, but that's a fool's run and a waste of your time. Please refrain from injecting your undereducated opinion in a logical discussion, kthnxbuhbye.
'kthnxbuhbye' Is a very strong logical argument. IANAL, but i'm pretty sure, we are all very good informed about the fact in which timeframe the split will happen and even are informed about the side-effects about _any coin or token which may be in transit within that timeframe_. Poloniex even stated very clearly, that they "might or might not" support BCC at all. So .... good luck with your case at any court, i would not bet to much money on that. But hey. What are we simple users against such a strong; 'kthnxbuhbye' P.s.: Insulting others does not make the others look bad at all. 8-) I have no intentions of suing them; they're giving me my property. Whatever they said they would do to support the BCH token on their exchange or not does not change their own TOS that states the tokens I (as a customer) send to them are my properties. This would be the public and private keys to the BTC, which would include all assets associated with them. And seeing as they set a precedent in the past with ETH/ETC, yes those BCH associated with the BTC private keys I've sent them are indeed mine and should be rightfully credited to me. As far as the little insult spin goes, it was a jab at the myopic down-talk, much like this is. p.s. your mother. You talk about logical argument but what you say is not logical at all. Funds are not stored on a BTC address for you. You can check what happens on the address when you send funds. Furthermore when you trade on poloniex, it's all virtual, no tokens are moving from wallet to wallet. When poloniex say you own the tokens, that's an IOU, nothing more. They owed you BTC, and they gave you BTC back. Read their TOS bucko. And why you trying to argue this anyways? I know I'm getting my BCH from them, as is everyone that held non-loaned BTC on their exchange. Why you contend this is beyond me, but it's your right to beat a dead horse all day man. Personally I'm gonna go take a fat dab and be happy I don't have to sue anyone. This will be my last reply to this chain of conversation in this thread. By all means, use this as your opportunity to get the last word to stroke your ego because I really don't care now that I'm getting my BCH. Cheers!
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Yeah, you wouldn't. You can attempt to debunk the fact that Polo holds MY property that I deposited into their exchange, but that's a fool's run and a waste of your time. Please refrain from injecting your undereducated opinion in a logical discussion, kthnxbuhbye.
'kthnxbuhbye' Is a very strong logical argument. IANAL, but i'm pretty sure, we are all very good informed about the fact in which timeframe the split will happen and even are informed about the side-effects about _any coin or token which may be in transit within that timeframe_. Poloniex even stated very clearly, that they "might or might not" support BCC at all. So .... good luck with your case at any court, i would not bet to much money on that. But hey. What are we simple users against such a strong; 'kthnxbuhbye' P.s.: Insulting others does not make the others look bad at all. 8-) I have no intentions of suing them; they're giving me my property. Whatever they said they would do to support the BCH token on their exchange or not does not change their own TOS that states the tokens I (as a customer) send to them are my properties. This would be the public and private keys to the BTC, which would include all assets associated with them. And seeing as they set a precedent in the past with ETH/ETC, yes those BCH associated with the BTC private keys I've sent them are indeed mine and should be rightfully credited to me. As far as the little insult spin goes, it was a jab at the myopic down-talk, much like this is. p.s. your mother.
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I opened a support ticket about BCC/BCH and was first given copy pasta answer saying "read our latest press release". I demanded more information and threatened litigation if I was denied rightful access to my BCC/BCH as per their TOS section 18.
This ticket was promptly responded to with,
"We're sorry for the inconvenience, in case the tokens are credited they will be credited to all eligible customers at the same time.
Unfortunately we are not able to credit any at the moment and cannot guarantee they will be credited in the future.
Sincerely, Poloniex Support Team"
Then my ticket declared resolved and deleted from freshdesk.
Their TOS does not block small claims court, which is where most US citizens with less than $10k in losses would be filing suit anyways. And by their own recently updated TOS, the tokens deposited to trade with are acknowledged by the user and the exchange as the user's properties, or the user is an authorized handler of said token properties.
By this standard, the BCC/BCH tokens are owned by the user who deposited BTC into their account and did not loan it out (i.e. used for normal market-limit and stop-limit as well as marginal collateral).
Now, I do understand the fledgling nature of BCC/BCH, and polo's potential reluctance to open trading pairs while the side-chain develops further; but fact of the matter is that the BCC/BCH tokens that polo currently hold are primarily the properties of their users, whom they are denying properly crediting to, AFTER a precedent setting action like the ETC accreditation when ETH hardforked.
This shit is a joke to win in small claims and then simply put liens on Tristan's property(s).
I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice. My discussion of litigation is currently pure speculation as I work to remove all my available assets off polo indefinitely.
You never sent BCH to Poloniex. You never bought BCH on Poloniex. Poloniex never promised anything regarding BCH. I don't see how you could win that case. Yeah, you wouldn't. You can attempt to debunk the fact that Polo holds MY property that I deposited into their exchange, but that's a fool's run and a waste of your time. Please refrain from injecting your undereducated opinion in a logical discussion, kthnxbuhbye.
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At least you got a response from them. How many days did it take them to get back to you?
Days? No, day. This all happened over the past 24 hours.
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I opened a support ticket about BCC/BCH and was first given copy pasta answer saying "read our latest press release". I demanded more information and threatened litigation if I was denied rightful access to my BCC/BCH as per their TOS section 18.
This ticket was promptly responded to with,
"We're sorry for the inconvenience, in case the tokens are credited they will be credited to all eligible customers at the same time.
Unfortunately we are not able to credit any at the moment and cannot guarantee they will be credited in the future.
Sincerely, Poloniex Support Team"
Then my ticket declared resolved and deleted from freshdesk.
Their TOS does not block small claims court, which is where most US citizens with less than $10k in losses would be filing suit anyways. And by their own recently updated TOS, the tokens deposited to trade with are acknowledged by the user and the exchange as the user's properties, or the user is an authorized handler of said token properties.
By this standard, the BCC/BCH tokens are owned by the user who deposited BTC into their account and did not loan it out (i.e. used for normal market-limit and stop-limit as well as marginal collateral).
Now, I do understand the fledgling nature of BCC/BCH, and polo's potential reluctance to open trading pairs while the side-chain develops further; but fact of the matter is that the BCC/BCH tokens that polo currently hold are primarily the properties of their users, whom they are denying properly crediting to, AFTER a precedent setting action like the ETC accreditation when ETH hardforked.
This shit is a joke to win in small claims and then simply put liens on Tristan's property(s).
I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice. My discussion of litigation is currently pure speculation as I work to remove all my available assets off polo indefinitely.
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About BCC, the logical thing for Poloniex to do would be to credit accounts according to the BTC balance on August 1st 12:20PM.
According to section 18 of their updated TOS : "18. OWNERSHIP OF TOKENS You hereby certify to us that any Tokens used by you in connection with the Platform are either owned by you or that you are validly authorized to carry out transactions using such Tokens, and that all transactions initiated with your Account are for your own Account and not on behalf of any other person or entity." So yeah they should credit BTC holders on their exchange for their rightfully owned BCC, even if they do not offer it as a trading pair.
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Great, now post the total customers' balance info, otherwise the above amounts are useless for determining solvency. What kind of trolling effort is this? Do you need a hand doing your own blockchain research? Hold my pocket if you want me to walk you through it. Yes, we can find Poloniex addresses with thousands of bitcoins in them, but the we don't know how much customers have on the site so we can't determine whether or not they are solvent. Lol, so you can see the assets a company is holding and believe insolvency? Logically, I do agree with you, there is no way of knowing lacking the data of every single customer's balance with polo. But that is an unknown data group. Because it is currently unknown, there's no point spreading FUD speculation in favor of causing panic sales to exit the exchange. Oh wait, lol, the whole exchange is down. Maybe they should do exactly as I stated in my first post on this thread and focus on getting their shit together. edit:
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What kind of trolling effort is this? Do you need a hand doing your own blockchain research? Hold my pocket if you want me to walk you through it.
Yes please. Walk me through it. Patiently waiting. Hold your breath.
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Great, now post the total customers' balance info, otherwise the above amounts are useless for determining solvency. What kind of trolling effort is this? Do you need a hand doing your own blockchain research? Hold my pocket if you want me to walk you through it.
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This is one of polo's BTC wallets: https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3PThis is one of polo's ETH wallets: https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88No, these guys are not insolvent. They're being shamefully unprofessional in following up with their recent announcements about the BTC hardfork and BCC/BCH sidechain tokens that are rightfully the customers' who hold BTC on the exchange; as well as utterly disgraceful in handling their support requests. I, for one, am not worried. A little digging and the dox for the CEO/Founder of Poloniex are on this forum. And anyone that's been in the crypto game for long enough has seen the same as I have; scammers getting eviscerated and devoured by this community. Lol I think that everyone that works for Poloniex knows it is in their best interest to get their shit together and start telling us what's going on, STAT.
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Bump for respect.
Just bought a copy of this C.A.T. bot and I am VERY impressed with it. Big ups to sampey for offering the community an awesome bot.
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Living outside of Philly and scamming..
These guys can't be too bright.
Either that or they're drug addicts. Heroin or crack.
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I contacted Jasinlee days ago requesting a refund from fibonacci. I stated "Recently I went through renal failure due to a degenerative kidney disease I was born with. Sorry for the sob story, but my medical expenses are too great for me to play investor in this project any longer."
He acknowledged my PM and told me he would process my refund personally.
Days later, no word from Jasinlee, so I begin to PM him via bitcointalk (he has not responded to PMs on litecoin talk in some time), demanding my refund to circumvent my filing complaints with FTC and SEC. He dodged the conversation claiming to be away from his computer, while mentioning nothing about refunding me. I filed with FTC promptly, sending him PMs of the screenshots as I did so, requesting a refund to encourage me to stop filing.
About half an hour after I filed with the FTC, he PMed me the following;
"Well, I just got back to a PC. I guess you had no intention of dealing in a civil manner when you started this, like I told you before, I have to have the submission on the ledger to get it processed. Just like everyone else, I am dealing with your account and a few others outside of the queue since it was not handled through the site. But you can remain hostile and I will get around to it when we reach your spot in the queue now since you are going to threaten me like atomicchaos."
Apparently breaking one's word about personally handling refunds is "civil". Now I'm stuck in some imaginary "queue" because I PMed him too much and told him if he didn't refund me I'd report him.
That encounter alone was enough for me to cement my perspectives and opinions on his entire ASIC project being a scam.
I'm currently seeking whatever legal means are available to see not only the return of my money but also the prosecution of Jasinlee aka Jason Hudgins.
Any personal info about him or dox that can be shared would be greatly appreciated, but in PM please. Thanks!!
EDIT: some additional information, I'm a dialysis patient suffering End Stage Renal Disease. This has been clarified to Jason through PM several times. Hence medical expenses and personal request. I also privately invested into his business plans October 2013, before I went through renal failure.
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Looks interesting, plus free coins!
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I'll definitely take one.
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Still have any of these left? I'd like one.
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Thanks, we need all the support we can get. Yeah were in the L&M professional center on west chester pike if you know it. Across the street from the Manoa Diner - Manoa Shopping center. Havertown, eh?
I grew up in Havertown. I'm very interested to see what you guys are bringing to the table.
Small world! I know the building! Videos please! More pics and specs too please!! Best of luck to you guys, I'll be watching close. When you have a demonstrated product, I'd love to place an order with you guys just because you're in my backyard. Assuming you launch without a hitch, what are the chances for local pickup? Also, I don't really see your company doing a whole lot of fabrication at that location; are you producing your miners elsewhere?
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