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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: February 18, 2018, 10:54:46 PM
I think it's better to leave the poor bastard alone. Try to explain what usually happens to bitcoin / blockchain, if not interested, so be it. Some people prefer to take a "blue pill". This is their own choice in the end. I love people in mid-2013, and keep it that way long after having a gox accident. Then I realized that I might need bitcoin in the future, so I'd better put some of my wealth into bitcoin and I do not care about any price at any time. They will stay like bitcoin for a long time I do not care if its 2k $ or 100 $. If it's 100 $, better, I buy more. If its 2k $, better also I make more money. SmileyI holds gold like this too. Long-term.

Sadly, people are not enthusiastic and not on fire as you are.
I'm doing ALTS but I do have some BTC in my sleeves. Lands and Gold are the same as holding BTC, the only problem in BTC is that some are doubting it and they are thinking that it might disappear someday (or might get hacked). People who are not thinking about the price right now know it's true value and people who panicked sell in the last few months can't even protect their own stand. No pain no gain, if you can't risk your balls in crypto market even if you know its potential then you don't deserve their worth.
2  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Hacking is the Big Problem on: February 18, 2018, 10:40:21 PM
You don't. Hacks target the exchanges wallet by finding exploits and not the user accounts separately. If you want your funds to be safe, use exchanges for trading only and withdraw to your personal wallet.

Listen to him. What he is are saying is true. The problem lies on the system itself of the exchanges. But there is no way that they can hack your hardware wallet unless they force you to spit out your seed, or when you get phished online. Almost all exchanges nowadays are only came from scratch and some don't even know that their exchange will reach that far, that's why they are having a real deal maintaining the security of their exchanges. Imagine if some reputable company (facebook for example) decided to have a cryptocurrency exchange and the people that are working there has an A++ degrees in different fields of computer in the most prestigious universities. Do you think that they can still put a dent in their security? Give it time and these exchanges will improve too. In the meantime don't fully trust them and always leave your funds in your own personal wallet.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you start from zero cash and make a living with the opportunities in crypto? on: February 18, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
Is not my case, I do have some savings so I didn´t start from absolutely nothing, but I had not much to start with. I am having a decent go at cryptos and I think it may be possible to make a living... What could be a good strategy?

Yes its possible to make a living in cryptocurrency even without capital. Based in my experience I was completely broke and all i have are my laptop,smartphone and internet connection. Since I am a home maker and a full time mother I was just depending on my husband until I realize I want to earn my own money. Thankful that my sister introduced me to cryptocurrency most specially bitcoin (By the way she's also making a living through crypto trading) So I started my journey in crypto with nothing I just read and joined the forum and started participating in signature campaigns and bounties. I invested half of my earnings since then. And im starting to trade as well. Im grabbing this opportunities just to earn some extra income since my husband is the only one working right now.

This is a very good example how lucky and at the same time a proof that crypto can make your financial life easy. For example in trading, I have a friend that bought a coin at cents and then 6 months later, the price went up to 2$. He bought a car, build a house and then bought what he want. Those early birds, and the people who are lucky in the coin that they have bought is a few example on how we are benefited by the adoption in crypto. Another thing is that there are new millionaires by doing business in crypto, this would take a lot of skills but if your business (example you made an exchanges locally) and it is being used by many. Congratulations you have now a successful business, and if you improved that business in an ever changing crypto world. You might even become a billionaire.
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading FOREX or Crypto? on: February 18, 2018, 02:47:16 PM
I need some help.

I already have experience trading FOREX but until now im not that profitable. The market of forex is very UNPREDICTABLE. technical and fundamental analysis are not really working. Market makers and bank institutions are controlling the market. its centralized and big banks can manipulate the exchange.

Im planning to leave FOREX and switch to CRYTPO trading. Does anyone know who controls the bitcoin price? is it still the government or the whales trader?

If Forex is never been profitable then i wont see any successful forex traders as of now but still there are some who become able to be profitable on forex and i admit its really a complicated thing fundamentals together with technical analysis is really needed but if you do quit on forex and switch to crypto i wont guarantee that you would really be profitable also into it yet if we do talk about price movements i would say crypto is more unpredictable than on forex.

I don't have a experience in forex but I am trading in Crytocurrencies market for almost a year. A friend of sister is a forex trader and he said to me that forex trading is better than crypto trading, based on what I've observed on him, it is very technical (he is reading a lot of books about trading stocks) and O don't know if the methods are working but I don't have time for that that's why I don't do forex. And trading stocks has been here long before crytocurrencies so I don't know why people are not making it their job if it is really profitable. I know a lot of people who became rich in crypto but not in forex. It is still unclear to me what is much harder than the two. I'm hoping that there are some forex trader that will enlighten us here.
5  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: February 17, 2018, 11:48:29 PM
May be in 2022 the bitcoin community will be widely accepted all throughout the world, as every day newbies are entering the bitcoin community there is a possibility for that and all the merchants, restaurants, hospitals,schools and universities, banks will be accepting this bitcoin and block chain technology and naturally the value of bitcoins will be much much higher, which might even rise above 10000 or 100000 times more than the current value. In such a situation it will be difficult to get one bitcoin in hand when the prices are higher, so now is the right time as there is a slight dip in the crypto market to buy some bitcoins or buy part by part which will also help to earn profits.

They are entering the crypto world not just BTC, so the usage will be divided among those cryptocurrencies, that is also the reason why the price of BTC is down lately. New people are going into alts. But that is a good sign that the industry is going. BTC is having a rough road and this will likely to changed in the next few years.
New people will realize the worth of crypto, banks and governments will use the blockchain, decentralization will be used in different applications. Digital devices and platforms are what drives most of the society and the industry today so the growth rate will be much higher (considering the factors like FUD's and banning of crypto), I think 5 more years is enough for the main usage of cryptos and BTC. 10 years for global adoption.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: February 17, 2018, 11:15:38 PM
Against the San Antonio Spurs, Lebron James has the opportunity to hit the 30,000 career regular season points because he is currently seven points shy of making that mark, he would have been able to do it in their last game against the OKC Thunder but they were no match for them at all,
James is doing what he can do pushed Cavs to the extent of their game. Hitting the 30K mark is a very big achievement for a player. About the math-up of the OKC and CAVS, if the play of PG and WB will completely go in sync, they will be a big contender in the finals and might win the 2018 chanpionship, two clutch players in one team. I just hope that LeBron James wont be out of breath till finals.

On the other hand GS is firing in all cylinders, and they are so fast that other team can barely keep up in every play. If they will go in the Championship, I think they will have the crown again.
Cavaliers are going against a very tough team with the Rockets and Harden on a tear lately.
It will be a test for Lebron and company tonight to battle against Houston and the always hard to beat Harden at the helm of the Rockets.

I also think that the management of the Cavaliers don't know how to handle their players. James is past his beast form and I am not happy in the trades that happened. I wonder what will the cavaliers do in their players. I still not seeing that they make it in the Semis.

The rockets is a very strong team, even if harden don't have much something to do in the defensive end (but that is improving lately) his offense is unbelievable (only him move that way to the hoop). He is in his best and the team is very aggressive. They will be a contender in the finals.

On the other end Im hoping Irving will be on the semis as well as the OKC, no mentioning that OKC (the tag team of westbrook and his team) is improving. They are the black horse of the league.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: Do we need regulations? on: February 15, 2018, 03:10:05 PM
How do you guys think? Do we need regulations in the crypto world? Should only ICO be regulated or legit coins (not "security tokens") too? Can we implement regulations mechanisms in code so that corrupted governmental institutions couldn't manipulate the industry? Can we still have free market with governments' regulations across the world?

Please, share your thoughts. I'm a bit confused about what's happening right now.

Because the block chain operates in a very complicated manner, it's very hard to mixed regulations on a platform that fully offers decentralization. There are so many block chains based platforms that are being created and continue to rise, decentralized video, email, messenger, banks. A platform that will focus on political system will come (inform me if there is already an existing one) the problem is how the government will adopt this platform if they will know that they won't be able to control the money and corrupt their country anymore.
8  Other / Meta / Re: Seeking help for Cyrus/Theymos to recover my hack account.. proofs inside. on: February 05, 2018, 10:31:49 AM
Does my proof of ownership is insufficient guys? Why admins doesn't give any reply to my pm? It's almost 1 mont since my account get hack.  Cry

I confirm that Ultrloa_real is the real owner of that ultrloa compromised account and I know the real ultrloa and he message me on facebook to help his verification of ownership. Cry Cry Cry
Im hoping that you will recover your account my friend.
9  Other / Off-topic / Re: What age to teach kids about crypto? on: February 04, 2018, 10:22:28 PM
There's no specific age to teach them about crypto, well, you just let them know that it exist, then you can tell them how to earn it in the future. I think it's good if he/she is in high school before starting to engage in the community.

12 years and above I think, Just explain him/her the basics, Cryptucurrencies are adults stuffs when it comes to its application. Don't ruin the child's mindset like that. If you want then computer hardware and computer knowledge is essential to a kid, as well as programming. Later when he/she knows this stuffs, they will understand the blockchain even more because they know the theory behind.

Once somebody is able to drive a car, he should be able to understand bitcoin as well and handle it in a responsible way.
The age to get a drivers licens differs from country to country, but as far as I know it's between 15 and 18.

In general I would not teach bitcoin in schools.
Imagine a teenager was tought about crypto currencies at school, opens an account and loses all his money.
I am sure that in case of a lawsuit the school would be held responsible and it would have to make up for the loss.
This is all about individual teachings, how you can make your child view the world in cryptocurreny in a "not all about money" manner. But I think later on this kind of technology will be taught in schools and will be included in the curriculum. This is no different from, ecomomics and finance.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: February 03, 2018, 11:53:47 PM
Against the San Antonio Spurs, Lebron James has the opportunity to hit the 30,000 career regular season points because he is currently seven points shy of making that mark, he would have been able to do it in their last game against the OKC Thunder but they were no match for them at all,
James is doing what he can do pushed Cavs to the extent of their game. Hitting the 30K mark is a very big achievement for a player. About the math-up of the OKC and CAVS, if the play of PG and WB will completely go in sync, they will be a big contender in the finals and might win the 2018 chanpionship, two clutch players in one team. I just hope that LeBron James wont be out of breath till finals.

On the other hand GS is firing in all cylinders, and they are so fast that other team can barely keep up in every play. If they will go in the Championship, I think they will have the crown again.
11  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining BTC after 21M on: February 03, 2018, 11:23:20 PM
So it is year 2024 and the max BTC supply is reached at ~21M. 

Wrong. We will be there approximately at the year 2140. The bitcoin as block reward or subsidy halves every 4 years that's way it will take much longer than you think.

Will it be economical to continue mining BTC going forward?

Hard to say but someone should've discovered something that would make the production of electricity cheaper. And also someone should've made something significant in making mining more efficient.

Is it possible that the S/W for BTC may be augmented to a semi POS type of system?

Not sure how to answer this but I doubt this will happen.

Even though the difficulty might increase, isn't it possible that (even with the electricity thing) that the gpus that far in the future will be super powerful? What if they start mining coins without any issues at all? Does that change anything about how long it'll take to get to 21M or am I completely wrong?

I don't know much about the workings behind mining and I've always wanted to know. I'm sure these are questions that others might have.

They are working in the lighting network so I think they are still has a long way to go (because if they are thinking on another way, they will put thier resources in discovering other alternatives to mine) not build a LT.
Same as you I dont have any knowledge but Im hoping that the Microsoft giants or other big companies will participate on the blockchain and font a way (a greater way to mine this cryptos).

Will it be economical to continue mining BTC going forward? The large mining operations can always set up a solar panel system to reduce energy costs.

Just putting up solar panels means nothing.
If the thing you do, be it mining, manufacturing or anything else is not profitable then it's stupid to build solar panels and use that energy for it. It would be far better to just sell the energy you make with the panels.

Solar panels are only efficient for off-grid systems, because of its high initial price, people will choose the grid. And if someone will build solar PV system, they will profit more on incentives and like you have said, selling electricity than mining BTC is the best choice

We have a lot of problems in the supply of energy nowadays, if this mining will caused so much power then this will not be efficient in the long run, what i mean is it is better to give people the power sources than spending it on mining IF ONLY they cant find a way to mine in an efficient manner.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: If you achieve your target in crypto field then what you are going to do next? on: February 03, 2018, 10:01:16 PM
It's a great question, but you have to specify- do you mean what do you do with your money, or what do you do with the freedom money can buy you?

In terms of investments, crypto is only one of the asset classes that should be owned. An ideal strategy would involve owning 7-8 different asset classes. For instance, crypto, gold, rare art, real estate, and probably (some) stocks and bonds. For me crypto is a long term game plan, but I won't own exclusively crypto...

In terms of being able to do what you want to do, as in you have enough money to not ever care again...whatever you do, make sure it's something positive and beneficial towards society. Building infrastructure in Africa, teaching children, rescuing animals. If you create a good energy on this planet, you will get what you need.

It is always good to have a giving heart, what you are saying can only be done by millionaires and billionaires, as an individual who are working here in crypto world, I can only give kindness to what's around me and give back to people that needs help. A positive business is a very important asset to have.

Additionally, what I have right now is pure crypto, I will still work hard to have a real world asset like gold and lands. I'm still praying that these industries will rise exponentially so that I can have some decent cash out of money. Like I have said before, this will be a long term goal, and for the meantime, I will just make this as a part time Job and enjoy every PUMP.

in my opinion is it will convert to half of money and another half again reinvest. what is your opinion and let rock together with my topic.?


     You know what pal, If you really wanna be successful in anything you do, never ever get contented with what you have achieved. After getting your target, go for higher and harder targets. Because if you don't, the only way you will be going is down. You know what the biggest mistake most of the people make? It is not because they set their targets too high and fail to reach it, but because they choose to aim for a lower and easier target then get contented when they hit the mark. There is no shame in failing, everyone fails at some point of their lives, and this enables them to learn and become wiser and stronger. While those who choose to always play safe never get to go beyond where they are already in. Yes, they don't get bruises or broken bones, but they also do not get the chance to reach new heights that are truly meant for them.

I disagree with this one, my goal is if ever I made it in the Fifties, I will retire to work and enjoy the life to the fullest. That's why I'm putting every single second of time working here and there and plan for a business that will keep going for years. Like an apartment, for example. Aiming for the higher ground is not bad, but you want to find contentment in that. And it doesn't mean you will go down if you stop. That will only mean that your life is already fulfilled and you are happy for what you have. That is more meaningful than having a billion, but unhappy for what he has.

13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your best Altcoin Prediction for 2018? on: February 03, 2018, 09:21:35 PM
Hi folks,

what is your choice for the best Altcoin of the coming year and please give a short explanation.

Which ICOs will do very well in your opinion.

Please share your thoughts of the hottest industries and the hottest projects.

Any participation will be highly appreciated.

Thank you in advance and all the best for the coming year

My bet is on CND, MNX, both have a great service and great platform, MNX supply is low so I think it will be on the top 20 before the end of the year. Not mentioning that the goal price of their coin is 56k$ per piece. Collective intelligence is no joke, because it can predict the prices (not literally predict, but has a good outcome because of the collective majority of people on what coin they will hold.
Ethereum is no joke, and it will always be at the top 10.

I put my money and faith on Deep Onion! YOu wonder why? Well, it is anonymous coin with amazing dev team & community, TOR-supported + OBFS-4 protocol integrated, with some special features like DeepVault and soon Deepsend, Android mobile wallet and Vote central. Very low market cap, I think it is set to break 100$ in 2018.
Check out more on https://deeponion.org
For best ICO from the start of the year, I can recommend SKT (finished), Nucleus Vision and ECEX exchange (Ziggurat).
Cheers.


I wonder why there are some scam accusations on the DEEPONION, its campaign is running for almost  half a year right?
SKT is a godd choice because games (online games is a billion dollar corporation) I dont know about the Nucleus Vision and I wonder why the  ECEX exchange has a very plain and simple site. I dont know if they are successful in thier campaign But Im hoping for success because I invest some coins.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Volatility A Bad Thing? on: February 03, 2018, 09:05:19 AM
For me no, volatility is not a bad thing because as we can see everytime that the price will going down this is actually our chance to buy bitcoin in a low price then the price will be higher again we just need to wait when its happen.

Traders mindset is not bad because we are earning individually, taking advantages of the price and riding the waves, but have you seen what is the main reason why some services or company don't consider BTC as a payment? Because of it's high volatility. We're talking about business here and application in the real world. They are going to lose millions of $$$ if the price continue to be like this. As  an individual trader Yes. In real world works. No.
15  Economy / Economics / Re: If you achieve your target in crypto field then what you are going to do next? on: February 02, 2018, 11:34:55 PM
in my opinion is it will convert to half of money and another half again reinvest. what is your opinion and let rock together with my topic.?

In the current state of this technology, I think I am still far in achieving something. I do have some coins, but the adoption is very little, and there are people who know very little about the block chain. The prices of our ALTS and BTC are still far from its full potential. There are so many platforms that are still in development and some decentralized services and applications are on their way. It's like watching again the growth of the computer industry. So I think I will be working here in crypto world in conjunction with my work in the real world.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you surprise by bitcoin price now? on: February 02, 2018, 10:39:44 PM
I have placed a "stop loss" limit order on BTC falling below $10,000 to protect the rest of my
profit that I have not taken out yet due to unreasonable Tx fees on Bitcoin and no I would
not be surprised in the least.

When she blows you will see transaction fees going higher as the miners try to stop
people leaving the sinking ship and you can bet that Coinbase will have the usual
technical problems on big dips like they always do.

Now I know that i have many fans here so please buy my coins "on the dip"
if this happens and the robot sells my coins because this is what markets are
all about  Roll Eyes

We have seen a lot of this before and the biggest loss is at 2011, BTC's price goes down to 90 plus percent. The market is volatile, but I still don't think that this is just because of the market. We have witnessed that BTC goes to 20k$ in just a month, so it is not surprising that BTC will be 5k$ in the mid of February. If the people who bought BTC will panic sell, then expect a huge drawback of price. What's scary is that all of my acts are down too. Cry
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: January 26, 2018, 11:45:07 PM
Very well said, that is really true we need to overcome our fear of losing money to be more good enough in trading, because losing our money is part on doing trading, so we need to overcome it and make it a motivation to became more expert and to became more great.

But not a priority, I'm not here to trade to lose some cash, I spent hours of research and reading before I invest in a new coin or before I bought some some potential coin. Everyday trading requires so much technical analysis that I have a very little knowledge about. I have some fear of losing my money that's why I need to work on learning the backgrounds, and services of the platform. It might be taken as a lesson, but it is much better to learn without losing enough of the BTCBTC.
18  Economy / Economics / Re: 2017 Was Bitcoin's Year. 2018 Will Be ....... on: January 25, 2018, 07:18:28 AM
Bitcoin with it's high fees and slow transaction times is hardly suitable for payments – spending the same fee whether you buy a coffee or send $100,000 is a joke and the promise of scaling solutions such as the Lightning Network hasn’t been fulfilled.[1]

While there's no shortage of old and new believers to keep the party going, along with plenty of developers working to create better, forked versions of bitcoin, I’m betting my chips on a more flexible alternative.
The door is wide open for blockchains that use smart contracts, like ethereum,
[2] bitcoincash, litecoin and more......

2018 Will Be ....... Year’s? [Writer choose ethereum, what will be your choice?and why?]



Source:  [1] [2]

Everyone are betting what they can bet on the table, some people have been holding BTC for so long and because this last December is a huge drawback, because they are expecting that BTC's price will climb up to 40k$. Some waited weeks in order to see if that huge rollback in price will result to a new ATH but not. We are slowly being consumed by the problems like congested network and very high transactions fees. What to do? go to alternatives. I have tried investing on bitcoin cash last year but as to what I'm seeing now. Its pump is still caused by some market manipulation, what worse is that there are so many forks that came after the first fork, which it is an obvious sign that because they cant control BTC's supply, they are making free money through forks and they are not even serious in finding some really helpful currency (or fork) that can solve the transaction time and transaction fees.
So if this lightning network don't do any good, people will turn to other crypto like ethereum.
If you are asking me this will be ethereum year, well IMO Ethereum network can get congested too when delivering a very large number of transactions. It is not a good sign. Im treating last year as the year for new projects or what we called ICO, and because the platforms last year is still developing and some are releasing their end product, good results and applications of their service we can call this year as the year for decentralized applications. Let them put into application what they are coding for years.

19  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the risk of holding Bitcoin? on: January 20, 2018, 04:11:14 AM
Holding some BTC resounding to some people who have some interest on you,but it can exposed their to cryptoworld who knows your next door neighbor have all the potential to earn a lot of BTC.

This is not true. This will only apply if you are keep boasting in your neighborhood that you are earning some BTC. I barely talks about my neighbor and the only one who knows that I'm earning some BTC are the closest one to me. My mom and my sister, so it is impossible that your neighborhood will have that kind of interest unless someone or you tell them your story.

Holding or selling bitcoin pose a risk, if you hold bitcoin, the biggest risk is if the bitcoin price suddenly drops and does not go up again, so you have to keep track of bitcoin developments so it does not happen that way.

Bitcoin holders are aiming for years, not weeks, not months. The dip and ATH of prices is nothing new to them. They are just waiting for the right time to take place because they bet on the new generation of money long time ago on how far this can go.
20  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I only have 200$ per month ! on: January 19, 2018, 11:14:39 PM
Invest in other cryptocurrencies, that can make you easy 100% profit and the coin is cheap, but make sure they have great tech and opportunitty for growing their future. Do not be greedy, and invest max 50% of your payment. But 200 bucks is nothing, if i would have the same problem, i found better job then think about making easy money with cryptocurrencies...
but it is not as easy as turning a palm when doing a prediction of crypto that has a good future potential. sometimes we get stuck on a scam object. then be careful of every decision to be able to have a profit
Honestly when we invest in digital currency then we are risking our future. We all know that investing in digital currencies is very risky. But the opportunity to be able to earn profits is also fairly large, each investment must have advantages and disadvantages of each. In investing in digital currency then we are likely to get big profits and also have the possibility to suffer huge losses as well. It is a consequence that how we should be able to deal with all circumstances. Regardless of the capital that we have in doing Trading and also investing in Bitcoin then we should do our best. Without a high sense of enthusiasm then as much as any money we have it will not mean.

I think some of us are don't just want the profit (not all), some people here are learning and some people even leave the forum because they learn how to trade and they learn the other way of earning around. They are investing in a digital technology. Remember gates, Zuckerberg, Steve back in the days. We are just a fraction of what they have sacrificed just to make their dreams work.
Profits are like side effects for me, it is just the result of what you are learning and what you have earned, if this goes up then good if it dumps then wait.
I don't care if I just have 100$ per month. That is a good sign that I must have another way to earn or I must searched on how to fulfill your happiness at work and at the same time earn some cash that can sustain you and your family.
We are losing because we're thinking of earning instant profits. Earn and learn at the same time. Time is the most valuable that you are putting here. Nothing is much more valuable than time so make every moment be the best.
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