You guys  keep  watching  the  sky,  coming  soon  ,  would  make  you all happy .

p.s - nothing more  beautiful  than Darjeeling.  and  Sikkim.  from there , you  can also  move  through  Bhutan ,  Beautiful  country , 

Funny  in the open market  you can  buy  any type of  data you need on people here in india,  in fact   good  data  provides  can  give  you   names,  DOB, pan  card numbers  address, financial  details, insurance  details,  incom tax  records, and  purchase  history.  nothing  new   with  what  businesses do . in facet this is a  good  lie of  business with high  profit  margins. 

i  dont  mind  you not  promoting  bitcoin in  india, i  can  understand  the frustration dealing  and  communicating   with people  here.  

Thats  why i  dont  trade BTC  here, to  much  problems.  

you dont  need to  trade  BTC in  order to   contribute  to this  community.  and  any  ways  you have  contributed alot  to  this  community  by  imparting knowledge to  everyone  here. Keep  doing that.  you are  doing  good  that  way, keep it up.  

Well pinwheel i  see it differently , if  a   seller  here  does  not have  bitcoin  but  honors  the  deal  by   getting  bitcoins  from another  person at a lower  price. then it  is  ok. but   if  some one  takes  the money and   vanishes  now  that is  a  scam. 

This  what is  happening  is   just  business.

but  you know  some  thing, you  can  destroy  your  competition and  take over  the  market if you  play  it  smart.  may be  its  time  for  you  to  do a  hostile  take over  the  bitcoin market.  you  do have the BTC  volumes , you have  your  rig, and  all you  need to  do is,  start  playing  market  force. 

Just  a  thought .

I  raise  my hands,  its  like  driving  through a  brick wall. 

I dont  think you  are  able  to  grasp  what i am  talking  about , rather  you are  missing  the point.  What i am  talking  about has  nothiing  to do  with  RBI and  the  Government. 

I dont  think you  understood  my  concept , or you  are  really  trying   hard  to   sound  ignorant.

Ahaaa  ....  well  the  beauty about problems  is  the  solutions  that come  about .  remember these solutions  will only  work  when a  community  spirit  is  fostered. I am all about  creating  a  open  and  friendly community.  Creating, to many sub forums  will only  divide  the   bitcoin  community  which is  not a  good  thing.   We  the  few  members  are now in the  forefront  to having a  cross border community, and  then  flood of  new  ideas and changes that come  with it. greater  collaboration and faster  growth.

Now  if  you are  against  reaching  your  hand  over the border  and  integrate  the  south asian  members, then i dont  know   how  an  isolationism of  The indian  community  would  help us in the long  run .

OK.  speaking  on hypothetical terms, although  i  feel  greatly that it is  possible. but....   ok  back to  what i was  saying Hypothetically

A South  asian  integrated group (English speaking) (May be sub-forum for  national  languages)
 Effect :
Members  increase ,
Participation  on the  forum  increase .
Ideas  and  solution  to  trade start to take  place.
Bitcoin  trade increases (legendster you benefit  from this)
Mining  collaboration  may  increase .
New services   start up to  cater  to  the  problems  that  come  up .(Solutions  to  problems every one  is  talking about)


We can't always  go and  say "our group, no one  dare  enter it, my  country  my  say  i don't  like  sharing". But, what we  have  to  say  is "au contraire".
I always say, sharing  is  loving, and to love thy neighbor is the noblest of all  attributes.


I think  this  calls  for  a  new  thread proposing  this  idea. 

Didn't quite get  the joke  you were  trying  to make.  an  elaboration  may help. 

The thing is that the   sub  forum is  not   divided according to country . it  is divided  according  to  language.

Ours,  is  the  only  one  forum that is  catering  to  a  single  country,  that too an  English  speaking  forum.

I know  national  sentiments  are  high, but  look  here bitcoin is not  about   nations. it transcends  nations. I just  think it  is  a  good   idea  if  we  have  a  big  south Asian(English speaking)  community.

We  in india  have  a problem  with  not  many  bitcoiners,  so  why not   widen  the  net  to involve more  participation from  others  who  may  be  struggling to  find a  community  to  get  involved  with. 

  dont know.

Well the  thing is that, if you  notice Our  India  forum is  the only  country  specific  forum   in Bitcointalk , , the  rest of the local  forum is  language  specific. 

Our forum has  become  more  like  a  location  forum for  english  speakers, and  i think expanding it  to include  other  countries  would  give  rise  to  alot  of  other  english  speakers in  south  asia  who  would  like  to participate  in the  bitcoin community .

So,  if  South  asia  is  unified  we  pool in  more   resources,  beter   collaboration more members, and  more  problems,  which is  a  good  thing  as  problems  give  rise  to   innovative  solutions  and ideas . Bitcoin does not  really  recognize borders. and i  think  we  should  also  tear  down  borders.   

Looking at  this  thread,  i think  a  suggestion  to  have  this   forum  cater  to   south  Asia   is  far  better   than   just  India. 

let it  include  India, Nepal, Bhutan, Sir Lanka, Pakistan, Burma.
 
What do you all  think  about that.

O wow  Benson you  are in denial about  the  rape culture in india.  but then again  south india  is  relatively safe for  women ,  except  for the  religious  extremist  going around  pubs  assaulting  women. 

But  the  over  arching  issue  created in  india  especially in north india is  violence  against  women.  Respect  towards  women is not there. you cannot  go  out and not  have  then entire  street  full of  men  gawk at  you, passing  comments  and  even  trying to  grope. Public  transport is a  nightmare.

And  what happened  last  December was  the  worst  thing  that cold  happen to  indian  society  . 

Denying that our  country does not  have  a  problem only  makes  things  worst.  Identifying  and  acknoledging  the problem is the  first  step towards  reforming  society, then  comes  national  dialog, education and  upliftment .

 

will announce by the  end of this month .  Hopefully it  will be  well  received.

Why  are  you so  concerned  about PRISM . 

during the 80's  echelon network network  was  already created  with the cooperation of about 6  world  nations  to openly exchange  intelligence and  intercept  digital  data.  i can  assure  you that  most of  your  open communications  have  already  gone  past these  networks, And  any ways  India  has  it's  own  systems  that  are extremely good  at  listening  to every ones  communications  and  internet  traffic . do note  that according  to the DOT  ruling  all ISP needs to  loge  meta  data  of  every   customers  and  allow  access to the government to these data.  So all the  thing  that you have  done online is seen  and  known  by the  government  even your tor.

Then  we  have  china who  with the  help of their  state  controlled  mega  companies, do  tap into  the most of the  corporate  infrastructure.

Freedom is lost, and privacy is now  a thing  of the  past. 

till now  vpn is a  solution  only if the  vendors  are  trusted.

 

well in that  case  look into  strong  box .  a  legacy Arron  left  us all.

well how  many coins you have  to sell.
Will  buy face to  face. cash at hand
and will pay  5k each coin.

one  word .

"asymmetrical encryption".  Learn it , love  it,  live it and  follow it  like a  religion.

vpn

i2p

and never  use  cell  phones . they read  your mind  too . lol hahaha   

Its  more  of a  debt   based  system, where in  you pass  along  a debt to people. based off  which actual  fiat payments  are  made  through  their  exchange  points.

It's a more  a  less a  Keynesian economics at  play here.

That  sounds  like  a  great  idea.  I am  always  for  open  discussion and  dialog.
The  greater  the number  of  people  involved in active  discussion  the  greater  the  chances of  open collaboration and  finding solutions  to this problem  we  are  facing. 

Starting  a  crypto currency is  not  a  big hurdle, but setting  the  right  characteristics so that it  accommodate  the Local users and  also its  ability to  be  used in  layer  transaction  against  BTC becomes  vital.

   Ripple  in my  view  becomes   highly  unstable  when trust  systems   are  violated. and  when that trust  system  is based on debt it  gives  rise  to  a unstable  currency market.  which  will never  sustain it self  on a   longer  run.

Lets  see how  this  discussion  turns  out . lets  outline  the  main  objectives  and  lines  of  communications  and  see  what  we  can   brain storm.