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941  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 16, 2023, 10:51:50 AM
I was actually referring to the part I underlined, that they consider betting from different game accounts [in other words, different username] from the same IP address. As your friend were already registered to that IP, once you made a bet with your account using the same home wifi connection as him, you're considered breaching the terms you agreed with them.

The case became worse as your friend were limited, this makes your account to be perceived as an attempt to circumventing a betting limitation.

What do you think about them confiscating my money? I have never had any fraudulent or group bets.

Well, if you ask me, giving you the benefit of doubts that your narrative is honest and your friend suggested the site to you, I think you both need to use this as a learning medium. A lot --if not most-- casino forbid more than one accounts from the same household, this is a quite known knowledge amongst crypto gamblers. It's quite surprising that you both didn't know about this rule already. And further, your betting technique, many casinos also frowned upon betting with low odds [1.01, 1.02].
942  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls! on: October 15, 2023, 09:41:00 PM
Dear Holydarkness,

Do I open a thread about I opened a flag or it doesn't work like that? Does the DT sees this?

No, just update the opening post, adding the link to your flag. Do the DTs see your thread and flag? Well, I can say that, so far and for sure, there are three DTs overseeing your thread, given we're already commenting and giving our input. I noticed that you've also made your request here, so yeah, DT will most likely see your thread.
943  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 500.casino csgo500.com $1,500 was confiscated for no reason on: October 15, 2023, 06:14:27 PM
Most often I play outside the home, mainly in cafes or internet clubs.

Perhaps this is why 500 casinos thought so
It's possible. These casinos have automated systems that can link accounts that have logged in using the same device ID, or even IP addresses. Your task now is to urge out that you are not connected to any of the said accounts, if indeed you are innocent.

Perhaps a third party can help out with the mediation process. You could start with casinoguru and askgamblers as suggested.

The most annoying thing is that 500 casinos don't even want to listen to me and just ignore me. I'm a human being too. Why play on my feelings

Let's... have a tad bit more patience. I've PMed UserU, he'll hopefully come and address this issue on this thread once he come online and notice my PM.

As for why they "play on your feeling", I believe [if we suppose the situation here is simply due to that you played on internet cafe] it's a case of departmental communication. It's not that they're intentionally tried to play with their customer, I think it's simply customer support team just get a reply from the security team and provided you with the information provided to them, without being able to look into the log themselves.

Hopefully, this situation can be solved when their representative come and have another look at your case.
944  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls! on: October 15, 2023, 06:01:26 PM
Holydarkness,

First of all I know your motive is helping here and not taking any sides, and I believe your good heartedness. On the other hand, I asked you what does silence mean on Stake.com's side. If you knew how this site caused my life to collapse and watched it in your eyes; you would flag this stealing attempt too, this site does not care about their customers or you or anyone here; they care about money. Their religion is money; and I will try everything I can to take my money back. How and to which account do I raise flag? I will see who is a payroller on that flag. Thanks for advance.

On that case, as I've said, I think their silence means they're sticking with their initial ruling, and that they're not going to reconsider your case. As for flagging them, which account do you want to flag? Is it Stunna, it's Stake's official account, but the account has been inactive for a while.

Basically, if you want to raise a flag against someone, you go to their trust page [go to the profile and click the button on "trust"], scroll to the bottom of the page, to the "new feedback" part, the option to add a flag will be next to a negative feedback.



There will be three type of flags you can choose [the description of each flag is there on that page]. Flag type-1, Newbie Flag, will only need 1 DT support [or 1 more DT supporting the flag against the ones opposing it], and flag type-2 and 3 will need 3 DT supports. [You can read more about flag here if you're interested].

You can ask for support or opposition for flag here. But bear in mind that DTs will not just jump into supporting [or opposing] flag blindly, for the same reason I can't: because taking an action for a flag requires us to affirm that what happens is like what's described, to the best of our knowledge, and that the flagged account indeed did as accused and/or guilty.
945  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 500.casino csgo500.com $1,500 was confiscated for no reason on: October 15, 2023, 03:55:01 PM
There’s no way you can get your profit when you violate the casino ToS but you have the right to receive your original deposit.

I ask this out of ignorance. Is this always the case? Can't they claim damages to keep it?

Nope. Far as I know, most casino have it in writing [that the user agreed] on their ToS that if one or two clause were broken, they have the right to confiscate everything. Those who let the "violators" get their fund back were doing so as a good-will, not because they're obligated to do so.

For this specific case, if we assume that OP did violate the ToS, the casino has right to deny any fund that OP owned, it's there in one of their clause,

The suspension or deletion of User accounts shall not entitle Users to any claims for compensation, damages or reimbursement. In case of heavy misconduct, which include, but are not limited to, exploiting bugs, games or security holes, all account balances of terminated accounts are forfeited in favour of 500 Casino.



Now, moving to OP's topic, I assume no one invite UserU to this thread? Allow me to send my regards, then.
946  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls! on: October 15, 2023, 03:39:54 PM
I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?

I don't think they have a choice to not reply to a scam accussation; if they didn't what conclusion do you have to still support their decision? I don't understand your motive really holydarkness; you did a great thing and contacted them ; don't you think it is ill motivated to not reply to a scam accusation with proofs given? I seriously don't understand your pov.

Regards.

They actually have choices to reply or not to reply to a scam accusation. The scam accusations threads are here to warn people of a scam attempts as well as give space for every involved parties to give their side. If one of the involved party didn't want to give their side, then I'm afraid there's not much we can force them to do.

As for what you [or, the other side of the involved parties, the one that's left with silence] can do, it's case-by-case basis, in several, the silence can be intepreted as an admission of guilt [depending on what the evidence point out to us] and flag or negative feedback were given as a result. Thus, if you deemed it necessary and the right thing to do, you're more than welcome to take that road. But, your case, sadly, IMO, doesn't warrant a flag. At least that's what I got after reading your case and proof you provided.

I explained my assumption here about the two pronged situation, which I am more than OK that you can't accept, as it is just my assumption, but that's the way I see and intepret your case, my very own opinion after reading the narrative and evidence so far.

Others might think differently, and they'll probably see Stake as the wrong side here, support your flag if you raise any, or leave a negative feedback themselves on Stake's account.

As for why my motive, I don't think I understand this part well, but if you're asking for I'm here, as I said here, I am not benefited in any way from this case, whatever the outcome is, I am here [on this board, not just on this thread] simply to oversee cases, probably help solving them, and that's it.
947  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake Scammed me off apx. 20.000 USDT!I want my hard earned money back!Help Pls! on: October 15, 2023, 02:30:38 PM
I got no replies as of the weeks past; don't you think Stake.com not replying is a problem?

I didn't mean to be rude, but I thought we've come to a conclusion that if they didn't reply you by then, they're probably won't reply any further as they're sticking to their last decision?
948  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 15, 2023, 11:42:44 AM
Oh, sorry. I got the time of your registration mixed up. Your friend was limited since March, you registered since July, and your friend ultimately deleted his account on September, this is the correct rough timeline?

I might be wrong, but I think the rule below is what they consider you've breached

3.27. Clients are allowed to bet only as individuals, group bets are not allowed. Repeated bets on the same results / winners from the same or different customers may subsequently be declared invalid. Even after the official result of the competition / athletes is already known, Sportsbook platform may consider the indicated bets invalid if it considers that the Clients act in collusion or as a syndicate, or the bets considered were made by one or more Clients within a short period of time. The betting company also has the right to refuse to accept bets or to count already made bets as invalid if they are made from different game accounts from the same IP address.


We have never bet together. Even if he wanted to, he couldn't bet with me. Group betting is definitely out of the question. I've been on my own since I started betting. Bets were made on rollbit only from my account. Dear helpful friend, what's wrong with this? 🥺

I was actually referring to the part I underlined, that they consider betting from different game accounts [in other words, different username] from the same IP address. As your friend were already registered to that IP, once you made a bet with your account using the same home wifi connection as him, you're considered breaching the terms you agreed with them.

The case became worse as your friend were limited, this makes your account to be perceived as an attempt to circumventing a betting limitation.
949  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 14, 2023, 11:03:07 PM
Your roommate got his bet limited to $1 since March, and you have your account since last year, so, roughly around September last year? Won't their excuse valid, then? For about 6 months [if not more], you're playing from the same IP as your friend?


I've been betting since I signed up at the suggestion of my roommate. After I registered, he did not place even 1 bet. He wasn't there when I was there. But he didn't tell me that his account was limited. After learning that he was restricted, I asked him to delete his account. He deleted his account on September 6. While I continued to play without any problems, 1 month later my account was confiscated and my money was not given because there were 2 accounts with the same IP address. I think my only mistake is betting on odds of 1.01 and 1.02. It's easy to get an odds of 1.01, but I lost my entire deposit 3 times. everything has a risk.

 We are 2 separate people. Is it a crime if we live in the same house? Can't people living in the same house bet on rollbit? Even if we use the mobile phone operator's internet network, our phone automatically connects to our home's wifi network when we enter the house. We are both KYC approved. We can even make video calls. We are ready to prove everything. But rollbit doesn't even allow us to prove it. ignores.

Oh, sorry. I got the time of your registration mixed up. Your friend was limited since March, you registered since July, and your friend ultimately deleted his account on September, this is the correct rough timeline?

I might be wrong, but I think the rule below is what they consider you've breached

3.27. Clients are allowed to bet only as individuals, group bets are not allowed. Repeated bets on the same results / winners from the same or different customers may subsequently be declared invalid. Even after the official result of the competition / athletes is already known, Sportsbook platform may consider the indicated bets invalid if it considers that the Clients act in collusion or as a syndicate, or the bets considered were made by one or more Clients within a short period of time. The betting company also has the right to refuse to accept bets or to count already made bets as invalid if they are made from different game accounts from the same IP address.
950  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 14, 2023, 06:54:37 PM
Do you mind giving us more info about this case with what I asked above your post? It's still unanswered. I'll PM rollbit's representative and invite them here once I understand the situation from your side better.


I think my roommate cant bet since March. Couldn't bet more than $1. My account was never banned. I have withdrawn money 42 times since July without any problems. I had no betting limits until my account was closed. I made hundreds of bets. Even though we both did KYC verification, my account was suddenly closed with the excuse that there were 2 accounts with the same IP address.

Your roommate got his bet limited to $1 since March, and you have your account since last year, so, roughly around September last year? Won't their excuse valid, then? For about 6 months [if not more], you're playing from the same IP as your friend?
951  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Spoke out against Rollbit, wouldn’t you know they permanently banned my account. on: October 14, 2023, 10:30:01 AM
I'm a bit... confused. Might be nice if you can add more context. You're a Costa Rican with US driving license? Or are you an American currently living in Costa Rica? And when you registered your account, what's the situation of your residency?
952  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Uquid SCAM. Owes me tokens I had in uquid.com on: October 13, 2023, 07:05:31 PM
Is that a fact or are you guessing? Can you perhaps provide a screenshot or any backing evidence to prove that the token are still operational for few years after the ICO [and the deadline to withdraw token, as they announced].
Can YOU tell me why you think that the image you provided refers to coin OTHER the the ICO when it explicitly mentions ICO coins and was posted at the period of the ICO ending?
You provided this, if you have a different interpretation you should be able to tell me too. I'm only second guessing as to why you're making this assumption to be honest.
Personally I feel like I've already provided enough evidence that the commission I received was received outside of the ICO as it had the same format as normal commissions on their platform.

Because that's a known practice for a token offering? They allocate some funds for marketing etc., for the time being of the ICO, the number were just "number" on their platform, be it token earned from marketing, private sale, ICO sale, etc. Once the ICO concluded, every token will be minted. To mint this, you'll need to withdraw from the platform. Every unclaimed and unsold token will be burned.

Not sure if this project applied the same principle, but all signs point to that direction, at least from what I intepret from their announcement.
953  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Uquid SCAM. Owes me tokens I had in uquid.com on: October 13, 2023, 03:04:14 PM
Ok, I dig further, this time their medium. As it turns out, the main problem was, indeed, the "ICO" withdrawal. There was an article prior to the one mentioned above, here, that implied that the deadline was not just for ICO token, it was for every token in their system.

[image snip]

As you can see, the announcement we previously discussed was intended for every token holders, not exclusively for ICO token holders.
This is a 2017 article and clearly states that it's about the ICO.
IN fact, UQC tokens inside uquid.com remained usable for a few years past the ICO.

I do tend to believe their support staff that replied to me however that they lost or at least mishandled account data, because even though I was registered in their platform they ceased cominications after a certain point while the platform remained active. Uquid went through a period of little to no activity, but still once they came back the token was there and the platform re-emerged with it. That shouldn't be an excuse to mix deposited money with the rest of the platform's funds.

Is that a fact or are you guessing? Can you perhaps provide a screenshot or any backing evidence to prove that the token are still operational for few years after the ICO [and the deadline to withdraw token, as they announced].
954  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Uquid SCAM. Owes me tokens I had in uquid.com on: October 13, 2023, 11:13:23 AM
There was no such email.

Ok, I dig further, this time their medium. As it turns out, the main problem was, indeed, the "ICO" withdrawal. There was an article prior to the one mentioned above, here, that implied that the deadline was not just for ICO token, it was for every token in their system.



As you can see, the announcement we previously discussed was intended for every token holders, not exclusively for ICO token holders.
955  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: 🚨🚨🚨 ROLLBIT confiscated my money. I made an honest bet 🚨🚨🚨HELP 😢😢😢 on: October 13, 2023, 10:04:41 AM
Still no answer

Do you mind giving us more info about this case with what I asked above your post? It's still unanswered. I'll PM rollbit's representative and invite them here once I understand the situation from your side better.
956  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by LegendaryAccss on: October 13, 2023, 09:38:09 AM
Are you disregarding the fact that the email in the screenshot is actually a valid bitcointalk account email account? This can be easily checked.

Do you mind tell me how? I don't even know there is a way to check an email address belongs and registered to whose account, forum doesn't allow a search by email address and won't show someone's registered email without their consent.

His pictures weren't at scale. This is an irrelevant comparison by BITCOIN4X tbh.

Scaled or not scaled will not be a different, the format will still shows that each columns are aligned. For added information, the screenshot I made was from a tablet, so it's a "scaled" version.
957  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by LegendaryAccss on: October 12, 2023, 09:22:26 PM
I contacted Google+ via PM pointing to this discussion and since he replied, I assume he knows about this thread.
[...]

There's some history of password changes Google+ has made so far based on bpip - but I don't see him having changed email in the last few months. But since email is private for some users - then I'm not sure we need to require them to post it publicly.


I just PMed by Google+. He shared a screenshot of his profile with me, showing his account's email address to me. It is different from the one shown by @alex2012. Given seclog didn't show a change of email from his account recently, I can vouch that he's not part of this scam-attempt/account-selling.

I'd also like to use this chance to publicly apologize for the inconvenience Google+ experienced because I jumped too fast and didn't notice the signs of doctored image.

nutildah and Little Mouse, do you both mind to remove the neutral tag against Google+? I apologize to you both too for any inconvenience happened from your side.



He always can sign messages on some of his previously used BTC addresses to prove ownership of his account.

[...] ask Google+ to sign the message [...]

He did sign a message at one point, but I am not sure if the address is still accessible to him.

Google+, if you read this [as I didn't write this on my reply to his PM, stupid me], can you confirm if you still has access to bc1qr40dwlh5wywg99967j0fc02es97mf0luzgvf3j or not? If you don't, it might be useful for you to... re-stake your address.
958  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Uquid SCAM. Owes me tokens I had in uquid.com on: October 12, 2023, 06:54:16 PM
I think they've also warned about this. I take a long look at their telegram history, I think at one point, after the swap, they tell people to withdraw any remaining balance from the platform. There's a possibility that you missed another deadline. So, even if we suppose that your token was swapped automatically by their system, your balance will still be lost because you missed a deadline of withdrawal for all accounts. Can you look into your old email around these date to see if they send blast email to everyone informing this?





Edit: Forgot to finish a sentence, the edit and addition marked in italic.
959  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammed by LegendaryAccss on: October 12, 2023, 06:20:37 PM
[...]

Here's the comparison:

[...]

Interesting finding. That explains what I've been wondering since yesterday by a lot: how he removed the neutral tag given by actmyname. I initially thought he temporarily distrust AMN, I checked his trust list during the time to confirm this, and [as there were no info of such] I thought he did it for about minutes, just enough to make a screenshot, and then delete his list, so the weekly record didn't archive that.

But editing the upper part of the page [or the lower part] made way much sense.

I happen to have screenshots of profile pages around the same time of that screenshot [in April 2023] in my gallery, and indeed, the forum didn't change layout or the likes, layout shown on the profile page during April should also shows what we see right now: all text aligned between each rows.

[...]

What we have to clarify is that there is no evidence that the original owner of this account is selling that account. In fact, I am sure that the @Markdoy6 Telegram user is not the original owner, but a scammer who offers this account to naive people.
What if someone like him offered my account for sale, or yours holydarkness?

[...]

I guess there were no easy way to prove the ownership, even if Google+ come and answer here, it'll be a classic he-said-she-said.

I can think of two ways to prove or debunk the allegation, but it'll be quite... inconvenient. One is proving the connection by wallet transaction and see if the scammers wallet of which OP send the fund to is connected to Google+. The other is to debunk it [and it'll be very annoying, and I can understand if Google+ refuses to do so] I guess Google+ can ask for a trusted member to verify the dis-connection between his account and this mess by sending them a PM containing a screenshot of his profile from his page.

The screenshot bounds to show his email address and the member who got trusted with this task can match if the email written on his profile matched with the one being offered. I'll say again that it'll be very inconvenient as Google+ will reveal his real email address, if we suppose the screenshot above isn't his and the email address truly registered to him was not as above, so I can understand if he doesn't want to go with this method. Might worth to mention that it is not a sure fire, especially if the email was changed few weeks ago past seclog's data [is there a way to get a log way back for months?].
960  Economy / Reputation / Re: Murat Scammed 62k Metropoly token on: October 12, 2023, 05:28:32 PM
Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:
I was about to ask Stalker22 where he saw that part about bounty been escrowed as I couldn't find any traces of it in the bounty thread. Is it possible to see when exactly he changed the title? It is one thing if it was changed right after bounty campaign started and another if it was changed months later.

Ninjastic archived the original title, and it does indeed contain the "[escrowed]" part. As for when it changed, though I can't be sure with the exact time, it should be around after the bounty ended, given up to the announcement of the end of the bounty he made, the title still had it.

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