You also have to keep in mind that the site will dictate how many solar hours you are going to get in a day.   You will want a site analysis done to see what shading you will experience through all 4 seasons to determine if the site will be impacted.  You also will want to go out and look at the online resources that tell you what the solar hours are for the location where you want to put the solar panels as that is a best guess on what you will likely get providing there are no obstructions or things that are going to cast a shadow on the panel install. 

Then boil it down to what is realistic for the location.  So let's say it boils down to 5 good hours a day, then do the math.  More hours typically in the summer time, less hours in the winter.  Again anything you over produce will get sold back to the power company, and then you end up buying it back after you don't have the sunlight anymore.  Depending on the utility company and state the rates can vary greatly.  I know in my location I would be selling back at wholesale and buying at retail so it makes no sense to over produce anything. 

Economically it didn't work out to make sense from a pure mining perspective for me based on my own situation.  I think once you run the numbers you will have to decide if you are doing this for reasons other than mining and if it is worth it to you for your own situation. 

Every place is different based on laws, tax treatment, and incentives.  In no scenario where I live has producing more than I use to sell back to the utility making any sense. They buy back at the wholesale rate where I live so I am giving away power at a price way below it cost me to produce.  

So I would only size your solar for your own needs.  Also with the power hungry nature of mining you can really only hope to offset a small amount of power demand in a home setting.  So if you look at it from a perspective of reducing the cost per KWH for mining then maybe it can be used in that way.  

I have solar at my home that I built myself and the reality is that it really only offsets a tiny portion of my electric use.  That being said I did it for my own convictions and not from an economic value perspective and I will do it again when I move to my next home as well.  

Having solar, some sort of redundant power supply for emergencies, and even the ability to charge an electric car all are things that are quite appealing to me personally so would rather focus on those aspects more so than the mining side of it.  Quality of life sort of things.    

Following, would like to see more info about this.

Is it possible to undervolt the z9 mini's?  I have a couple of batch 1's that it would be nice to know if it is possible to reduce the power draw on these little miners and hold the same hash rate.  Thanks.

That is exactly my question.  What is the effect on power consumption and hash rate for this.  Is it worth even bothering to do given the S9's mine at a loss.  Is it really going to change anything?  Would love to hear more and what you have to do to use this feature.

How will this be handled on the exchanges?  I know Cryptopia has been locked in maintenance since Sept 6th so basically locked out of my Polis. Any word on when this situation will be resolved? Or is that related to this wallet announcement?

Following... Once you guys get your hands on some cards please post your results here.  Would love to see the comparisons.  That is a lot of money per gpu so it will have to be killing the numbers to justify the cost.

I would love to know what and where you guys are mining that your bringing home $27 a day per miner.  I am nowhere near that figure on Prohashing.  But then again I am not overclocking mine due to the heat.

I am starting to second guess my choice to not buy more mini's.  I was worried about the forks, and in the back of my mind I think Bitmain is about to release new sha256 and scrypt miners.  So I thought I should hold onto some cash in case that happened.  But I thought for sure Bitmain would be dropping new miners on us by now since all their coupons are expired.

So are the rumors true that Zcash won't talk about forking until next year?  Any others holding off or are the rest of them abandoning ship?  Would be an interesting turn of events if we get a large enough window to ROI on these.  The full size Z9 doesn't quite measure up to the Inno rig, but then again for the cost difference? 

Well nobody likes to be called out, and most certainly don't want to be called out on a lie like this.  Kind of odd he would put something like that out there.  Maybe he expected these things to actually ship so starting spinning up his own "insiders" story.  Something certainly doesn't add up.

Well this one looks like a train wreck unless the SIA guys pull a rabbit out of the hat and say they are flipping the algo in the new miners so only the Obelisk's are supported.  I don't see how these will be profitable otherwise.  Big mistake telegraphing your moves when you have smart and aggressive competition.

Starting to sound like a lot of reliability and DOA problems out of the gate.  I guess that is to be expected with a rig that is a lot more complicated than the previous ASIC's.  But a little worrying.  Mine should have arrived at my hosting location but not online yet.  Keeping my fingers crossed no issues. 

If someone has information or a unit from the OP I don't know why they wouldn't be willing to help run down the details.  Unless of course everyone came at them like a mob which put them on the defensive.  Some politeness and courtesy goes a long way.  Think about how you would feel if you happened to be this lone witness with a unit and everyone has their pitch forks and torches....

Something seems off if you are hosting with Mineority and the product is some place outside of the the EU I do not see how they can get away with charging VAT.  Something is wrong with someones understanding of how this should work.  This needs to be challenged.  If you had the product shipped to you in the EU then certainly you owe VAT, but for a hosting service?  That isn't right!

Any particular reason to chose the RX560's Phil?  You haven't gotten any updates from gpuhoarder on getting this mess fixed?  Looks like the order system is chaos at squirrels.

I used to believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, Unicorns, pots of gold at the end of rainbows.  But all I smell here since day one was fish.  When the Paypal option was removed then I new it was rotten fish.  So that is why I am hoping someone hunts this guy down.  Then it would get really fun.

So what is the consensus on the E3?  Is it hashing as advertised? Is it stable?  How are the temps?  Any particular pools that don't work?  Anyone had any experience setting one up on Mining Rig Rentals yet?  Thanks.

Does anyone know the date that the Bitube guy claimed he received his miner?  I would be curious if his dates line up with anything that was stated here by the OP.  If not then possibly like others have said he very well could have been talking out of his lower rear posterior.... But would be interesting to have him confirm and show the board if he did in fact get anything.  And also see if there are any clues on packaging, addresses, enclosed info that might be a bread crumb to follow.

I seriously doubt there will be a diff climb because of these miners.  They aren't more efficient than GPU's.  As a matter of fact rigs running 1080ti's with the Eth Enlargement Pill are probably quite a bit more efficient and hash better than these by a decent margin.   I don't have any 1080ti rigs running to run the numbers, but at initial glance that would appear to be the case.  I am sure someone who is running those rigs can chime in and tell us their experience. 

So I don't think these rigs are going to do much if anything on the ETH network unless they are selling them like gangbusters which from looking at the batch number increase, but the dates stay the same it would imply they may not be selling as fast as Bitmain had hoped.  I think the fear of ASIC's can be warranted when the technology disrupts the status quo, but in this case it didn't as these did not change the hash rates or economic factors for mining Ethash.  I don't see how the fear in this case is warranted. 

btw, I haven't gotten my shipping notice yet for mine.