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221  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment on: May 09, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
Looking into many options.  Mainly gable fan's.   Most likely going to replace with 2x or 3x current CFM.  Don't need it this moment so still shopping around.

More airflow might be all you need. Good Luck.
222  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience BM1384 Project Development Discussion on: May 09, 2015, 12:34:55 PM
Got a friend with an X Ray machine?
223  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] B's A More Ethical & Trustworthy Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: May 09, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
Minersource run by Matthew Carson and His father have been EVICTED.

Here is the eviction notice for MinerSource?

Why are they called Miner Hosting LLC?

Does Oregon Mines have any liability with regards to the money owed?

224  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]Minion Chip Assembly GB on: May 09, 2015, 12:01:29 PM
Here is the eviction notice for MinerSource?

Why are they called Miner Hosting LLC?

Why does Oregon Mines still have Matthew Carson on payroll?

At this point this scam of folding up shop has been a trail of broken promises across the US and it is funny that Matthew and his Dad have not been brought up on charges.

Martin and his SHILL Loshia for Technobit.eu should also be hung up by the courts given their fraud as well.

225  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: OregonMines Group Buy $399 Colocated SP20s CC's Accepted on: May 09, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
Here is the eviction notice for MinerSource?

Why are they called Miner Hosting LLC?

Does Oregon Mines have any liability with regards to the money owed?

Why does Oregon Mines still have Matthew Carson on payroll?

At this point this scam, of folding up shop, has been a trail of broken promises across the US and it is funny that Matthew and his Dad have not been brought up on charges.

226  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: May 08, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
One difference with BFL is that at least BFL designed their own chips (well, together with Chronicle) and already had a somewhat successful FPGA product.

00king00 explained their reasons for buying.  I do wonder if they're still feeling as optimistic as they did a month and a half back.

If you are less optimistic they can produce something on a BFL timeline then why bother at this point.

Why do people (I don't believe these two customers are infact customers at all to be honest) insist on buying vapourware when you can purchase used or new in stock right now? There is ZERO benefit in fact it is a negative to wait for new hardware at all unless you are replacing capacity with more efficiency. The logic is lacking that is why I really really really doubt these people are just honest to goodness consumers. They are more like paid shills or like BCP19 a paid employee of BFL or Loshia getting kickbacks from Technobit.eu to keep promoting product even when the community knows it is a bullshit product or a full on scam.


Biffa right again! Well spotted Biffa well spotted.


Like BFL this company still has posted BS claims about delivery for this product.

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Why haven't they amended that?




Time to call The Estonian Consumer Protection Board I guess. http://www.tarbijakaitseamet.ee/en


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with a purchased service, you as a consumer have the right
to submit a complaint to the relevant trader or service provider.
If there is no response to your oral complaint, submit the complaint
in writing.

There are no formal requirements for a complaint but make sure to
include your name and contact details, the date of submission,
a description of the defect discovered on the product or service,
and your preferred solution.

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If you are a real customer you should start the complaints now to avoid the rush.
227  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment on: May 08, 2015, 10:22:18 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability.  

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.

Need to see the space layout some sort of plan view or diagram etc to think about it and suggest any ideas on what might be viable options. Again the video I posted is a simple window mount DIY take you a weekend to set up and building and install.

There are portable evap coolers as well.
228  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment on: May 08, 2015, 08:14:26 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.

229  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: May 08, 2015, 08:09:44 AM
We're not deleting posts.

Now that your in an anwsering mode.  How are the chips coming along?

It was worth a shot to see if I could get a anwser Smiley
Maybe if you'll change the signature Smiley

You paying people for a Spondoolies tag Guy?
230  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: May 08, 2015, 04:22:33 AM
Translation. No actual miner. Vapourware of course it is vapourware.

Now we can only hope few real people bit on this bullshit and will lose their money.

Its crazy anyone would pay Uranus 6TH/s - $3299 USD.  Now we know it's not going to be their chip, not a big surprise.

But no one has released anything close to the specs they promise.   So will they wait  6 months if that's what it takes to get a chip with those specs? (And i'm guessing timeline no one knows this).  

From those that ordered what made you feel safe ordering this product?

Just use the old BFL timelines just as good as any.

Here it is:



The Monarch is 509 days and 11 hours late.


This will go the way of 'refunds' for anyone stupid enough to buy from HashCoins.

FYI, everyone who ordered from BFL and has not yet received their equipment is eligible for a full refund. If they don't give it to you, take them to small claims court and get a judgement against them. Then get that judgment enforced in Kansas. You don't need a lawyer, shouldn't cost more than $50.

231  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF3301 sample chip is available [Updated 04/05/15] on: May 08, 2015, 03:38:23 AM
Here is how we stop it.

1. Open source ASIC chip.
2. Open source low cost miner design.
3. Low cost miners in every hand.
4. P2Pool with those miners.


well - for example all you have to do is buy Bitfury's chip design and open-source it.
I have already done #2, and plenty of people did #3. #4 will happen by itself.

Yup.

And what happened?
You broke even maybe?
How many Bitfury chips can you buy today?

Millions bought them and now we had decentralized mining right? 100's did that is great but that is not millions, not enough to do much more than keep some hobbyists happy.

There are things you can change. There are things you can't change. I don't see how you break a monopoly that is coming at all.

Expecting these companies to be like you vs3 in anyway is not the hope you should be waiting for. I don't see anyone going to put the time and the effort in to make an ASIC and then get miners in the hands of millions which is the only way you beat the big players. It is over unless that happens somehow. I submit that the end is now and the monopoly on mining is already here and won't be challenged.
232  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF3301 sample chip is available [Updated 04/05/15] on: May 08, 2015, 02:07:10 AM
We clearly don't need a winner. I wonder though if the price of Bitcoin won't keep ALL the ASIC vendors in check. By that I mean a  low BTC/USD price keeps them from trying to kill each other. A high BTC price may encourage a "winner take all" strategy, which may not benefit any miner long term (past a couple of difficulty adjustments).

A little competition is probably good, but not a WAR

Don't kid yourself. The price war is not the issue it is the efficient and hashrate volume that is the battle ground.

The price of these chips and units for the small and ever shrinking home market is not what will drive the end of these companies. Guy at Spondoolies already laid it out numerous times on what will kill these wannabes competing with the those with a game plan, real engineering teams and the money.

The battle for $ per gh/s is silly and meaningless given the volume of hashpower that might come online before 2016. The nuclear weapons are ready to be unleashed. This will leave only 2 or 3 main superpowers.

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As for wanting big centralized systems based on 2 or 3 companies. NO FUCKING WAY!

Here is how we stop it.

1. Open source ASIC chip.
2. Open source low cost miner design.
3. Low cost miners in every hand.
4. P2Pool with those miners.

If you can ship more Terahash Petahash in a small, quiet, unobtrusive low cost device to millions that is the only way to decentralize things and get those miners on a P2Pool. Counting on Avalon or Bitmain or SFards as your chip / miner supplier saviour is like asking the fox to watch the hen house.

Insanity. No one learned a lesson from KnC or Bitfury did they? If you have a chip and it makes economic sense to mine massively for your benefit as company you will do it.

Be realistic this won't happen so the best we can hope for is a few more months maybe a year of projects like Gekkoscience or J4bberwock's effort.
233  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Pics of Large Miner Hosting Center Under Construction on: May 08, 2015, 01:44:26 AM
I hijacked this thread enough already. I just came here to say I personally know this place to exist and these guys are trying real hard to make it work. They have been very open and transparent, at least with me.

Who did they fire and why?
234  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Future mining powered by Tesla? on: May 08, 2015, 01:07:33 AM
Efficiencies for Solar will improve given newer materials and these could implemented rather quickly into solar cell production. The future for solar is now not later.

Nature Photonics 8, 506–514 (2014) doi:10.1038/nphoton.2014.134
Received 10 February 2014
Accepted 12 May 2014
Published online 27 June 2014


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The past two years have seen the unprecedentedly rapid
emergence of a new class of solar cell based on mixed
organic–inorganic halide perovskites. Although the first
efficient solid-state perovskite cells were reported only in
mid-2012, extremely rapid progress was made during 2013
with energy conversion efficiencies reaching a confirmed
16.2% at the end of the year. This increased to a confirmed
efficiency of 17.9% in early 2014, with unconfirmed values
as high as 19.3% claimed. Moreover, a broad range of
different fabrication approaches and device concepts is
represented among the highest performing devices —
this diversity suggests that performance is still far from
fully optimized. This Review briefly outlines notable
achievements to date, describes the unique attributes
of these perovskites leading to their rapid emergence and
discusses challenges facing the successful development
and commercialization of perovskite solar cells.



But if you still don't like Tesla's Power Wall for all your power needs... why not throw in some Hydrogen.

Cheap hydrogen fuel from the sun – without rare metals
235  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Sfards: SF3301 sample chip is available [Updated 04/05/15] on: May 07, 2015, 11:54:48 PM
Only for the best equipped army.

Hmm. My can do 0.51 Wt/Gh (freq. 400, 1.3 Th). At acceptable noise level.

May be it is not so "dead quiet" like Avalon 4.1, but S5 a) cheaper, b) easier in deploying.

Also, S5 is better in price/Gh if I am not mistaken. But you said it already.  Wink

    The avalon 4.1 becomes really easy to setup.
  After the first one is setup on a rasp pi 12 more will just plug n play. Running very stable.
Plus you can stack them 2 or  3 high as the pcie's are on the back end.

If your s-5 is doing .51 at freq 400 1.3th  you did a fan mod.
BTW they can be fan modded and noise level is okay at 1.3th  somewhere I have a thread on it.

But price wise 800gh for 2.3 btc =   66 cents a gh
vs 1150gh  for               1.66 btc = 33 cents a gh



Which is what I said.  Believe it or not   all this is not off topic.

those 2 numbers   66 cents a gh vs 33 cents a gh  are my pricing guide for this new gear.

Too close to 66 cents and it is over priced.  Too close to 33 cents and price war with bitmaintech.

Should be very interesting to see what they do.



WAR is sometimes VERY good
236  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: May 07, 2015, 11:50:50 PM
Translation. No actual miner. Vapourware of course it is vapourware.

Now we can only hope few real people bit on this bullshit and will lose their money.
237  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment on: May 07, 2015, 11:42:04 PM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.
238  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] B's A More Ethical & Trustworthy Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: May 07, 2015, 04:51:57 PM
  Black Arrow needs to be taken down. Refunds need to be given. This is just crazy they are still running around loose.

The salt is being rubbed in the customers wounds. It would be great if someone actually reported this company on the mainland in China. Raising enough of consumer stink there does force even large companies to comply with Chinese consumer protection laws.

http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2014/04/08/china-introduces-new-consumer-protection-law.html

The latest BlackArrow wheeze:

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Dear customer,


Your order is ready to ship. Please confirm the address we have for shipping for your order is correct.  If you have already done so, please ignore this email and wait for your tracking number in the next few days.

If you have not confirmed yet your shipping address, please send us an email with below fields filled in

Name:
House No, Street:
City, Postcode:
Province:
Country:
Phone no:
We are also sending shipping address confirmation requests from Black Arrow tickets system. However since the end of last year it seems that some of our correspondence sent out from the tickets system does not reach our customers' Inbox. Our messages either reach Spam folder or they do not reach the email address at all. Please do not reply to this message/email address with the above required details. This address is used to make sure our messages reach our customers. Please go on our website at: https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php?/Tickets/Submit , tick the Shipping department and send us the required information.

All pending orders are in our warehouse ready for dispatch as soon as you provide us the above details so we can update our records.

Please be aware that depending on your local customs regulations and taxation laws when importing goods from abroad you might be liable of paying duty fees or some other fees such as customs clearance fees. If you will not agree to pay them, the package might return to destination country or be destroyed by local customs. Please note that it is your duty to clear customs and pay all required fees. If you fail to do so and the package returns to us, you will be ceasing all rights to the package and it will not be send back to you again.

Guess what, incompetent assholes? I don't want my miners any more! If you ship them to me, I'll be throwing good money after bad for 1) customs duties and 2) electricity that costs me more than the miners will yield in BTC. I told you this directly via e-mail, and requested that you destroy my units and send me proof of destruction, and also refund the $50 shipping fees that you will not incur as a result of not shipping my order. But you chose to ignore that.

So fuck you, fuck you, and FUCK YOU. Shove my miners up your incompetent asses, where they will hopefully explode. You couldn't find your assholes with both hands and a funnel. You couldn't organize a piss-up at a brewery.
239  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Stay away from ASICSPACE on: May 07, 2015, 04:36:21 PM
Hm... i only now, when you mentioned this, realized that toomim brothers are a competitor of AsicSpace. Even though the investigation sounds trustworthy... this can hardly be seen as an independent investigation then. I thought they are hardware nerds who can check those things out. But letting the competitor decide if the competition made an error is not really something that comes to mind when one wants an independent investigation about the source of the problems. I dont say anything, i only point out a conflict of interests.

And why the fuck would there have to be an independent investigation anyways? Because you would like it?
If ASICSPACE wants this investigation, then they should do so and PAY FOR IT.

We kindly asked Jonathan to assess the damage to our equipment and the cause, because we need to decide whether it is ASICCRAP to sue or BITMAIN. What right do you have to claim an independent investigation? If you want a different consultant doing an "independent" investigation, go ahead. Hire some consultant and get it done. For now, you got to live with what is on the table and you either take that or you don't.

But please don't come up with the call for an "independent" investigation, as this is needed. It does not alter the tuth in Jonathans statement by an inch, if he is now rsponsible for our equipment or not. The damage was done beforehand.

I dont say anything, ...

truer words have never been spoken. You always come up with the most ridiculous claims and the request for a observatory stance like this is Kindergarten.

Fuck this. Damage has been done, ASICCRAP is not paying up and customers of theirs are not getting reimbursed for the damage.

It is a good thing, that Damir is gone. Now, only 2 more are left to be dealt with.

Robert van Kirk and Geoff Smith, two fucking cowards who cannot deal with taking their share of responsibility like a man should.

I think it is clear yet again that Seb has overstepped.

240  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment on: May 07, 2015, 01:16:17 PM
Oh ok...

I assumed you had humidity issues at your site not related to the evaporative cooling idea. My bad.

Evaporative cooling is used in Jakarta we have very high humidity all the time but they are running those on a much different system and definitely not evaporative walls like in those mega farms. Most of those places (mining farms in China) would have the same relative humidity / climate as where you are but I am sure they have it worked out to keep humidity down inside as these systems are used predominantly in chicken farms / greenhouses. Greenhouses and poultry farms can't have high humidity either as that would promote disease. I suspect the way it works is the heat is removed and the water is trapped in the panels and it freely escaping inside and outside the panel so it may not be adding all that much humidity inside and if you got good vents you should have no issues.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Huabo-ventilation-cooling-pad_1697720317.html?s=p

Greenhouse Evaporative Cooler Build

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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 Amazing. I just bought all the stuff on Amazon and gonna build it in a couple of weeks in the Bahamas.

My only concern is the humidity. I dont know if it will work in my greenhouse there.
I am going to build a small starter greenhouse 6x8 and gonna run the pump and Fan on solar. What do you think how much degrees I will go down in these areas? (ps I am Dutch so dont mind my English writing)

Thanks for sharing and compliments for the detailed list and your decent work. It does look very pro and nice!!
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Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens 6 months ago
 If you could somehow filter the water to get as much salt, and particles out of it as you can, it would be best. The salt film will most likely stop up the pad. I don't think it would harm the plants, since the air in your climate probably has as much, or more salt in it than you would be introducing to the greenhouse through the evap system. The system can go through quite a bit of water in a days time, at least it does for me anyway. That's why I have a float valve with a water supply line attached to it on the reservoir. It's not a ridiculous amount, but substantial all the same. In other words, you would have to check, and refill at least every 4 hours, depending on the size of your tank, and how long is required to run to maintain your desired temp. I'm looking forward to seeing the setup, when you get done!
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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 +keyplayr61 okay thanks Smiley I will think about it and I can monitor the water usage. If it is 100 gallon a month I am not worried but if it is 1000gal then I will be in trouble haha. Sometimes we dont get rain for 2 month Smiley And yes I am going to build exactly as you did, with a floatvalve. To be continued...


Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

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Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.
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