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2421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 - 6/8 chip Coincraft A1 board on: January 26, 2014, 06:50:40 AM
It is clear that there is some frustration.

If you promised to refund the guy then refund the guy. Problem solved.
2422  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 26, 2014, 06:44:59 AM
why can't bfl just be banned from this respectable board! why are these scammers and their products allowed here

It is up to us to point out their predatory nature not for the board to police it. Keep shouting and a few more new members might hear us and steer clear of them. Note that if you do you risk the personal attacks and slander machine that is BFL and it's shills. Be aware of that as you post against all that is unholy about BFL.
2423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 26, 2014, 05:41:00 AM
Update:

Wasp & Hive Prototype Update

The EE team has had what can only be said to be a horrible week with the CAD software and that has pushed things back yet again. Agggg! I feel for the EE putting in 16 hour days just to wrestle with persnickety software is not where we all want for him. In terms of the Hive we have significant airflow enhancements so that cooling will be greatly improved thanks to a "spinal column" looking design. The Hive will be ready before the Wasp and that is a good news for us moving foward. We had 2 potential customers at the meeting and questions about the A1 chip and the PCB were a key point. Our EE is recommending that anyone building for the A1 chip does go with a metal core board based on his years of experience it is required without a doubt. We will be clear to anyone fabricating our design that this is a non-negotiable point as the heat stress on the A1 pads with such tiny tiny contact points it will be a worry otherwise using only a standard FM4 PCB board as you really have to find as many ways to get the heat out as possible.

Licensing Fee Update

Our provisioning server with our firmware will be tested this week so that is progressing very well and will be ready when the Wasps and Hive come together. The WPC is currently discussing the pros & cons of the fee and trying hard to come up with a balance that allows for fabricators or end users to seamlessly get their licenses paid for and get mining without any interruptions. We will have the provisioning server up in time for fabricators and well before the first units are shipped to the community as we will use our own prototypes to test this fully.

Mining Pool Update

We will have to get our mining pool live tested this week to check stratum and cold wallets etc. We hope that we will have a working pool going soon. http://wpcpool.mine.nu/ you can check it out here to keep tabs on that progress.

Website Update

As we wait patiently for good news at the next EE meeting on February 1st the team setting up the website will continue to work on the text and graphics for the site. We are waiting on videos and real demos before we launch the site. We might put up a placeholder site soon so that people can check back that way rather than waiting for a weekly update from here.

Sales

Drop me an email or PM if you haven't already if you are looking at production of our designs. We have many members worldwide so if you need to speak with us in your first language we might have someone in the WPC that can parlez with you. I believe we have 10 to 15 languages available in our collective and we are represented across the entire planet.

2424  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 26, 2014, 05:22:45 AM
Some eye candy, an A1 after reflow:



That is a purdy view. Almost see under that chip... heehehe. VERY VERY DELICATE placement indeed.
2425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} TigerDirect is making a BIG MISTAKE partnering up with Butterfly Labs! on: January 25, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
There's a rumor that Tiger is in the process of acquiring BFL. This would be huge if true. I'm not going to reply any further on this subject.

LOL.

2426  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 25, 2014, 12:26:48 PM
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Joe's Pool ‏@JoesPool
good morning from Florida!! heading to #BTCMiami




2427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 25, 2014, 10:16:50 AM
Rest you 2 big day tomorrow.
2428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} TigerDirect is making a BIG MISTAKE partnering up with Butterfly Labs! on: January 25, 2014, 05:46:09 AM
aw i see your point but it sound like you never bought anything from BFL and thats gooooood for you but BFL/josh owes everyone (BFL customers) for not delivering on time but good for you bro Smiley
I've got a little 5GHs box on my desk right now, putting up 8GHs.  I didn't get screwed like the big spenders, but I definitely won't ROI with how late it arrived.  While I'm fairly good at holding a grudge, the BFL hate on the forums has more than expressed my irritation for me, so I've moved on to more constructive things.  :-)  I am going to laugh the day they deliver on time, and everyone dies of shock.

Didn't they advertise December shipment for monarchs?

October first estimate October/November revised estimate. December/January second revised estimate and now that January is done so expect a February / March estimate next.

Four months late? Guessing they will need a new product for the community to make a claim for delivery on, clearly the Monarch has failed to meet their original estimated timeline and has beed revised 2x since that and still no packaged chips. Dream on they will have to admit a 3rd revision and then won't even meet that. This company will never provide realistic timelines they want people to buy based on phony "estimates" and ship 4 to 6 months or more later to cover the fact their prices make their products way over priced compared to more powerful units. They are losing market share faster than they can make up timeline estimates and vapourware.
2429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 25, 2014, 03:38:59 AM
North American
Bitcoin Conference
Miami Beach - January 25 & 26, 2014

If you are going to be in BTC Miami Beach this weekend you can follow one of our WPC members and the man behind our WPC Pool Joe!  Follow @JoesPool's journey to BTCMiami! Tweet us if you want to meet us!!
2430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: January 24, 2014, 01:45:25 PM
Come on guys that Butterflylabs Cointerra and will start shipping orders next week.

We need more information about how things are going, we started to get very nervous breakthrough devido the difficulty.

FTFY
2431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: January 24, 2014, 04:43:43 AM
98% chance the power supply will fail.
2432  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [NEW][NO SCRYPT] Post pictures of your mining rigs! on: January 23, 2014, 08:17:40 AM
Wow! That be cool. Yes the kids have set their own wallet up as well. Downloading the block chain now. We are in Jakarta though... maybe another school in your area would be interested in Mining as well? The shipping and the import taxes are pretty steep. The X6500s I bought back in early 2013 and got my ROI on them so perfect for school use and practice on various SHA256 coins. We are going building a Laser Light Plane Table and we will house these miners below more would be ok just drop me a PM.

Yah, international shipping would suck... cost more then these things would ever likely generate.

Check for a local Montessori elementary school I am sure they would love to have something like this.
2433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 22, 2014, 12:35:03 PM
Ya we are too buried right now to work that in the tight sked we got anyhow. If there were chips to prototype with in Feb that be possible. But that is a lot of ifs and there needs to be chip specs etc. Thanks for the link I will keep watching.
2434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Pool Side P0rn on: January 22, 2014, 07:59:57 AM
Guys working hard on the WPC Pool. Testing should be done in the next week and we hope have a soft opening of the pool for our members before a full release after that.
2435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: where are the bfl FPGAs on: January 22, 2014, 07:21:35 AM
https://github.com/kramble/FPGA-Litecoin-Miner
2436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra vs. Butterfly Labs (Who will deliver first?) on: January 22, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
BFL has no working ASIC chip or prototype unlike Cointerra who has entered production phase. Game Over.

UPDATE: Prototype Testing Completed, Certification and Production this week

Cointerra Video Proof


I would listen to BFL's own recommendation on their site:

"...do NOT pre-order this product... - BFL"


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Shipping Schedule

#1 This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping.  

#2 If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product.

#3 Perhaps undesirable, but this is a pre-order market.  

#4 Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished development.  

#5 This has created a lot of drama for the manufacturers but it's something we simply have to deal with.  

#6 All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC.  

#7 Every last one of them, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date.  

#8 However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in January 2014.  

#9 Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in March.


Let us break it down line by line.

#1 They are not shipping.

#2 This is a pre-order product still being developed of an unproven and completely NEW design compared to their last product.

#3 Bold face lie. You can purchase from AntMiner directly for the past 30 days or more.

#4 That is a lie most of us want off the shelf products and thankfully we have alternatives and there will be more.

#5 BFL has created it's own "drama" making outrageous claims for shipping and performance on all their products and then failing to deliver either on time or to spec based on their own statements.

#6 BFL has experience the WORST delays in their ASICs 13 months deliver for some 65nm and already 3 months late on their Monarch.

#7 BFL is reluctant because they have done so in the past and have been a year late on some estimates and already 3 months late on their Monarch.

#8 "...plan to begin shipments in January 2014." Pure BFL Bullshit. They do not even have a working chip. No way can they state January shipping. Impossible and didn't they just state they won't give specific estimates? I think end of January is pretty much a 1 week window at end of that month right and you keep leading people on? ROFL scam.

#9 They will be lucky to get a working prototype by March don't expect to get an order made today until Q3 or Q4. The January estimate has been moved 2x now. From October to October/November to December/January. At this stage in their development these miners will likely need at least 2 to 3 months more work given what all the other fabricators have done to get to a working production run level. BFL is no where near Cointerra. Game Over.
2437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: where are the bfl FPGAs on: January 22, 2014, 04:52:52 AM
Doing some forensics are you Miaviator?
2438  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [NEW][NO SCRYPT] Post pictures of your mining rigs! on: January 22, 2014, 04:45:11 AM
Wow! That be cool. Yes the kids have set their own wallet up as well. Downloading the block chain now. We are in Jakarta though... maybe another school in your area would be interested in Mining as well? The shipping and the import taxes are pretty steep. The X6500s I bought back in early 2013 and got my ROI on them so perfect for school use and practice on various SHA256 coins. We are going building a Laser Light Plane Table and we will house these miners below more would be ok just drop me a PM.
2439  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Guess who got a HashFast Baby Jet today.......... on: January 22, 2014, 04:38:23 AM
For any B1 folks who received unsolicited refund checks (and you didn't cash them).

I was able to have my checks cancelled and my order re-instated by mailing refunds@hashfast.com and copying sales@hashfast.com

This created a fogbuz support case which HF referenced when they got back to me.

I found the telephone support line is pretty much useless.

While still not great, it is definitely better than the 90%+ BTC loss of the USD + tax hit of the unsolicited refund.

Looks like I went from being right near the front of the queue for B1 to pretty much the end due to this error.

Error? Or done to buy them extra time? Do you still get the MPP?
2440  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: [NEW][NO SCRYPT] Post pictures of your mining rigs! on: January 22, 2014, 03:56:50 AM
Our students got the 3 - X6500's we have mining today.

Need to find an alternative to the laptop longer term but was really interesting seeing them set these up. Elementary 4-6 and Secondary 1 students. I really recommend that teachers take mining as a something the whole class can get into and maintain during the school year.

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