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2441  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 22, 2014, 03:00:22 AM
Dateline Seattle: News from the EE.

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Just received several small bags of re-work pulls, including many BitFury chips, though I'll need to get to the microscope to be certain. Also the shipment contained 32 pristine BitMain (AntMiner) chips. I will use the re-work for the initial bringup - since I made the boards to allow bypassing any that don't work, I should get one or two working units per board, at least. I'll probably only mount 1 per chain in 5 positions, and one full chain of four in the remaining position, since I have to hand mount each one. Wish me luck!

Thanks Bobsag3 the EE got them.

CAN YOU SMELL THE SOLDER?
2442  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 22, 2014, 02:46:34 AM
Did not have time for this.
Any way We are going to measure it as soon Bitmine can send us a few more chips to test fully populated board

Yes that be nice for us as well a few more chips for our boards so we can populate it.
2443  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Visit of ASICMINER's Immersion Cooling Mining Facility on: January 22, 2014, 02:06:05 AM
Be nice to see an update on this when they change over to a newer chip.
2444  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Design on: January 21, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
Thanks AlexeyK, but it doesn't have the answer I look for there...

Not yet anyhow maybe you want to come and talk about it with us?  Grin
2445  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WHAT! :( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till March or April:( on: January 21, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
Posted on 19 Aug 2013:

Quote from: BFL_Josh
Middle/Late October

Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice, bump and packaging facility. This process usually takes two to three weeks. We have developed a strong relationship with several bumping and packaging houses from our 65nm product, so this process should be much smoother and quicker than our previous generation.

Posted on 01 Jan 2014:

Quote from: BFL_Josh
The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind

TIL that October - Jan is < 1 month. Good show Josh good show. Keep yelling the sky is green and hopefully enough suckers out there will ignore all the facts and waste their money on another BFL pre-order. I guess it's really your only option at this point. I'm sure that anybody who ordered a Monarch in August and now believes your latest update signifies that you are ~3 months behind schedule (so far) are just delusional cry babies that you don't want as customers anyway, right?



How hard does one have to lie to oneself in order to believe ones own bullshit?


2446  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 21, 2014, 08:15:37 AM
Sorry for bring out of the loop-
Chips have been sent off to Dick, he will have tomorrow.

Thanks for that Bobsag3. We have some in hand already and yours will definitely be used in the first run of prototype boards when your chips arrive this week in Seattle so that we can get a fully populated hive and then some. Hope to see you at the next meeting on Saturday.

I will actually be in BTC Miami Saturday.
Let Dick know he will get the chips tomorrow, along with some bitmain samples.

Okay will do.

Have a good one in Miami... say hey the Money Bags for me!
2447  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 21, 2014, 02:26:50 AM
Sorry for bring out of the loop-
Chips have been sent off to Dick, he will have tomorrow.

Thanks for that Bobsag3. We have some in hand already and yours will definitely be used in the first run of prototype boards when your chips arrive this week in Seattle so that we can get a fully populated hive and then some. Hope to see you at the next meeting on Saturday.
2448  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: January 21, 2014, 02:19:40 AM
There is always that possibility. We should know this week I would imagine.

All digs aside, I hope there is some promising news this week.  Some of BFL's customers really deserve it at this point.

Agreed. They deserve value for money. Let us see if that happens. Unfortunately there are few positive indicators at this point to suggest that. The overall design direction chosen may be the real problem and given the failures in the past it looks bleak for customers.
2449  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: January 21, 2014, 01:43:40 AM
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You mean discounting the fact that Hashfast is less late than KnC is at the moment?  KnC promised summer delivery and didn't ship until the middle of October.




you realize right Sweden summer is at a different time of year then USA right.

Hum, solstices and equinoxes happen at the same time everywhere and mark the start of the same season for every place in the same hemisphere... Last time I looked the USA and Sweden were both north of the equator. Did one of them happen to travel to the south?

Correct. Glad someone corrected that. Or they may have travelled here to Jakarta where there is no winter and it is perpetual summer. There are also things like Spring creep etc so if anything the Summer would come sooner and stay longer I suppose that might have been the posters thinking.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_creep

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Northern hardwood forests have been trending toward leafing out sooner, and retaining their green canopies longer.[18] The agricultural growing season has also expanded by 1020 days over the last few decades.[19]


http://www.arborday.org/media/mapchanges.cfm <--- THINGS ARE CHANGING... and the "seasons" are changing as well.
2450  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 21, 2014, 01:42:13 AM
You sir are the example of how things need to be in this community.

THANK-YOU!

Darkfriend77 will contact you with our order.
2451  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 600 GH Bitcoin Mining Card The Monarch BPU 600 C on: January 20, 2014, 03:24:46 PM
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/7579-all-6-our-mining-devices-have-stopped-working-3.html

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BFL_Josh

The fact that 5 stopped working simultaneously is what makes it unlikely it's a hardware problem. We'll gladly RMA them for you, but you're likely to have the same problem with the new units would be my guess.

To address your analogy, yes, I (and anyone) would expect the customer to check their breakers, extension cords or other related items before taking the TV back to Best Buy, so you would absolutely expect the customer to do some basic troubleshooting before doing an RMA.

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Quote Originally Posted by SLok  View Post
If you buy 6 tv's from best buy and you bring 1 back saying it failed you'll get another one. If you buy 6 tv's from best buy and you bring the 5 remaining ones back saying the 5 died simultaneously at 3:46am this morning, they will direct you out of the shop with your 5 broken tv's. Count your blessings...

Customer Reply:

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They wont ask you to take the TVs apart, try soldering new chips into it on your own, swap out the power supplies, try the TV in your neighbors house, re-wire your entire house, change power company, etc though... That being said, our RMAs were approved last night, so getting the devices packaged for shipping either later today or tomorrow. Thanks.

Borderline abusive and not very HELPFUL are BFL? I don't think this guy sounds happy having been treated all the way through the thread like he was to blame and why would he dare to accuse BFL etc etc... holy crap. Sucks having things go wrong and then having to ask for help in that manner because they never answered the first RMA obviously. Cripes what a dog and pony show. Why would anyone ever buy from them again given that sort of treatment?
2452  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 12:38:13 PM
Hi,

only 4 things.

1. when will you start selling?
2. will you accept BTC as payment?
3. approximate assessment of price/prices?
4. how can i get in line in a couple of first spots?



Thx,
Gologuzan

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422243.msg4601166#msg4601166 <-- Please read here.

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1. We will start selling licenses after we release the gerbers, BOM, firmware and software. We are trying to make sure we have hardware, firmware and software working before releasing this to anyone. Note we are not going to be the primary point of sales for these Wasp Hives there will be others that will do that.

2. See number 1. We will accept BTC for licenses.

3. Anyone can price these units out as soon as the Bom / Gerbers drop. You can send the information to an SMT and get them to give you a production cost sans chips. We have multiple Wasps: A1 Wasp, BitFury Wasp and BitMain Wasp so prices that fabricators come up with will indeed vary.

4. No line. No Pre-ordering etc from us and we are hopeful that with a release of the gerbers and bom there will be no more lines or pre-orders. Here is hoping that production to consumer hands is truly a short time.

Keep your eyes open for our website launch and note we are currently in talks with a number of groups who are interested in our designs for both their own farms but also for sale to the community. We hope to have some good news this week but we all know what Robert Burns said in a poem to a wee mouse.

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The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!

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The best laid schemes of Mice and Men
oft go awry,
And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
For promised joy!
2453  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: January 20, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
@ Bick

Can you post that thread where you collect all the BFL product failures and complaints from customers?

It would be helpful if people could see that info directly from the customers themselves.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344105.240 Some of the complaints on page 13 read well.


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He lacked integrity well before he stepped through the BFL doorway. Love to hear more about him being a plaintiff in the cable theft case that speaks volumes to what type of person the guy is. Probably unbondable as well. There is clearly no remorse for what he does to people and that is a telling sign of a sociopath. Again the best solution is to ignore him as he has nothing, absolutely nothing, to add to the community or constructive discussions about BFL. At this point the best thing that could happen would be for BFL to be audited by the IRS and at the rate they are scamming people it will happen. Surprised no anonymous tips from former employees have been phoned in.
2454  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: January 20, 2014, 06:17:47 AM
Wow,
It's amazing, but he is literally trying to fool people with a psychological game.

Just linking to the BFL run forums should be enough to dispel any BS he can even begin to type.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/forum.php

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Those are paying customers, flip through the pages and you'll see what people think as actual customers.

If he is here trying to pull the wool over people eyes, that means he is trying to secure new newbies who don't know anything about them.

https://www.facebook.com/search/keyword/?q=butterflylabs  <--- Quite a few more here on Facebook.

As he adds nothing probative or constructive to any of these threads it is just best that people light up that ignore under his name. There really is no need to 'debate' the failures of BFL they are well and truly documented in great detail.

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A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven to correspond to experience. Standard reference works are often used to check facts. Scientific facts are verified by repeatable experiments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact

Buying from BFL is not recommended given there are as many verifiable statements that correspond to as large a number of negative and well documented experiences from customers. All you have to do is read the hundreds of complaints posted to find out what happens when you have issues.

Ask yourself these questions.

What happens if they fail to deliver in a reasonable amount of time?

Fact is they never have met any initial delivery estimates in their history and have been as late delivering some orders by 13 months.

What happens if the product you receive is defective or under spec?

Fact they are slow to answers emails and RMA requests.

What happens if I ask for a refund?

Fact they do not give refunds as a matter of policy and contrary to FTC regulations.







2455  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 05:38:06 AM
Hmm, just to be clear, the original cgminer author supports only bitcoin mining. So if scrypt asics come out, either another coder takes over (like the sgminer fork) or bfgminer? Unless CK decides to come back and accept litecoin. I don't remember what the position of Luke-Jr is on scrypt / GPU, but his software currently supports it.

We will worry about that when / if we reach that hurdle as we have more than enough talent inside the WPC to work out the scrypt ASIC firmware based off Gridseed's or other scrypt chip specifications if it is available. If it is not then we would have to see if there is any value in working with undocumented chips. We would use the same software unchanged. Too many if's right now and we are really focused only on the  the SHA256 Wasps now and into the February and March when the Minion chips are supposed to ship.
2456  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 05:10:18 AM
Wasps and Hives: Features and Facts

  • Reconfigurable in operation
  • Able to programmatically adjust voltages and circuitry for newer, lower power modes of operation
  • A Hive can simultaneously host any mix of kinds of Wasp that it has sufficient power for
  • Wasps are self-identifying to the mining programs, and all share a common protocol with miner programs - there's only one type of driver ever needed for cgminer or bfgminer, no matter which kinds of Wasp are attached to the controlling PC.
  • Those protocols are written to be extended, when new requirements evolve, and all the Wasps' firmware loadouts can be updated in place, without powering them down and removing them from service.
  • So long as the PC-to-Wasp communications don't fail, Wasps can be diagnosed, identified,and re-configured without ever having to touch them.
  • As components age, and hashers develop more and more hardware based errors, remote management tools can take remedial actions to recover as much functionality as remains, again hands-off, even in the face of complete hasher-ASIC failures.
  • As more demands are placed upon the local micro-controller (or 'MCU'), Wasp design can be updated to supply more computational power, without discarding the existing firmware, software, or protocols.
  • Hives span the gamut between single boards powered by consumer ATX power supplies to crates of boards with redundant, load sharing server supplies. The same Wasps can be used by hobbyists and datacenters.
  • Wasp and Hive schematics are freely available; the Wasps can be used in a shared-mining configuration in payment of licensing fees, if desired. Hardware cloning is encouraged; license piracy is effectively discouraged.
2457  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 05:05:01 AM
BTC Background: BTC Mining Systems, Past, Present, and Future

  • Maturation from CPUs to GPUs to FPGAs to ASICs
  • Evolution from individual miners to pools of miners
  • The Power of Pools
  • Difficulty, and its impact on large scale Mining operations

Mining Software: Directing the hordes

  • Miner Software - supervising the Hordes of ASICs, for the Pools
  • Miner Firmware - translating the supervisors' jobs into work the hasher hordes understand

Hashers The Crypto-Hordes: Basics of Hashing Asics

  • Chips created for one purpose only - to perform the double-SHA256 hashes in BitCoin mining as fast as possible
  • Chips developed on smaller and smaller geometries, to get more circuits and higher speeds at lower power
  • Eventually, the fastest ASIC at the lowest power wins the race, and will dominate the field as power costs dominate the overall costs of hashing

Industrial Quality Mining Systems: Extending the lifetime of mining systems

  • As all the ASICs are migrated to the most current technologies, the performance race will slow
  • As the delivery of faster hashers abates, the lowest power-per-gigahash/second becomes the winner.
  • As difficulty stops rising exponentially, mining systems will have longer useful lifetimes, and so must be robust  enough to last for years in continuous operation.
  • As new coin types evolve, mining systems must be able to integrate multiple kinds of hashers without requiring more investment in mining, maintenance, and support hardware, software, or operational support.
  • We are reaching the tipping point, where the cheaper, less robust, short lifetime implementations typical of today are giving way to higher quality, designed-to-last, re-configurable systems that won't require the operations staff to re-learn everything every few weeks.
  • Hives and Wasps are designed to live a long time, and work in new modes as those modes are discovered, without taking them out of service for replacement or upgrade.

Design Goals:  Achieving disruptive innovation

  • Designed for re-usability, from the most basic circuitry and firmware up
  • Designed to protect the expensive hashing ASICs continuously throughout all operating regimes, with continuous monitoring and lifetime logs
  • Diagnostics can be run on the hardware while it is hashing.
  • Designed with high-power, high efficiency, programmable power supplies to the ASICs
  • Full environmental monitoring for temperature and voltages allows the units to automatically reduce their footprints to safe operating areas when the environment changes, while still getting maximum use of the degraded environment.
2458  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 05:00:18 AM
What Are Hives and Wasps?

The world of BTC mining is a fast paced, ever changing one where one week's King of the Mountain is the next week's Court Jester, good for a laugh but little more. As companies develop increasingly powerful BTC mining ASICs, those chips are rapidly designed into boards and systems for delivery to the eagerly awaiting throngs of miners who aspire to lead the way in hashing capability, and thereby in profits. Because of the feedback built into the BTC universe, each iteration of mining hardware is only maximizing its profits in the first few weeks after its ASICs are delivered, and before the next round of faster chips reaches manufacturing and delivery.

The WPC Wasps and Hives are an attempt to ride the crest of this racing wave, by building a common basis in hardware, firmware, and software for incorporating each new hashing device as it appears, with maximum re-use of all the assets of a new ASIC's predecessors. By reducing the amount of intellectual property that must be re-engineered, WPC reduces its time-to-market for each new revision, and reduces the engineering charges on each new miner version, as well. This, along with a significant re-use of hardware components, produces a low-cost, high capability system that is worth investing resources in to ensure industrial levels of reliability, maintainability, and management in large scale deployments.

Hives and Wasps are the racks and rack-mounted servers of the PC world, trading minor cost increments for major gains in scalability, configurability, and manageability. This, along with the quick turn deployment of new ASICs, extends the lifetime and lowers the operational costs of large scale BTC mining operations based on Wasps and Hives.
2459  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 20, 2014, 04:57:32 AM
I'm confused, you have your own chips and you'll use others?

We have not made an ASIC chip (yet).

We are using / going to use the following to build our Wasp Prototypes:

A1 Coincraft: http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=863
Minion: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/minion-asic.html
BitFury: https://megabigpower.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=33
BitMain: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364236.0 | https://www.bitmaintech.com/about.htm
2460  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: WHAT! :( Butterfly Lads won't deliver the Monarch Till March or April:( on: January 20, 2014, 04:33:40 AM
Another lie from dropt!  Who'dathunkit?

BFL is behind by less than a month, if you can even classify it as being behind, since we never promised a shipping date.

Original schedule: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post53173

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Middle/Late October
    Chips are out of the fab and sent to the slice

What really happened: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post74594

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The silicon wafers are at the packaging plant as of the 13th of January.

Schedule slipped from October to January. That's 3 months late.

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So we need to ask Wiarton Willie whether we will see the Monarch in February or we will wait another 2 months more...

Willie says:



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