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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.
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on: December 23, 2013, 02:04:10 AM
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I for one did not have too many issues with their minis. Still running since August. I took the boards out of the cases for better cooling. I wish they delivered just the boards not this fancy case.
One issue I had was with the bfgminer not recognizing all USB devices after power failure, but it works better with the latest version.
That is fortunate. There are significant amounts of people, as documented in this thread, who have had less than satisfactory experiences with BFL products. Here is hoping that the lessons learned here help consumers make better choices in 2014.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.
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on: December 22, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
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How is any of this helping the people crying out for support?
*Mumbles something about classic COINTELPRO tactics* Not so much directed at you defending yourself being trolled. More about the fact that BFL fails to respond promptly to statistically significant numbers of product failures and under performing units as well as failing to answer their emails in any sort systematic way. People have to use this forum to find help over and over again. Sad to say the least.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.
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on: December 22, 2013, 10:03:41 AM
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How is any of this helping the people crying out for support?
I see a complete disregard in this thread for the customers who have asked for help. Why? Mods need to clip out the off topic stuff specifically from Inaba and BCP19 that has little to do with the BFL Product Failures and Underperformance. At some point the mods are going to have sanction this sort of behavior are they not? Every other page it is the same off topic trolling.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] Logo Design Contest !!!! Ends on Dec. 31
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on: December 22, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
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Two more logo entries / logo variations: Pure image logos this time, but finding a fitting font shouldn't be that problematic. I certainly appreciate getting to see a sheet of logos it helps a lot to get the sense of direction the designer is going in. Feel free to play with logo colors etc I am sure other members are keen to see more variations than just the black and gold. Although I believe a high contrast is essential for our look.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project
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on: December 22, 2013, 09:29:12 AM
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Fun thread and project! Will this be plug and play or you need to put the thing together yourself? Might be in for the minion if I just need to plug it into the wall. Never gonna get it up and running otherwise Also, any ball park numbers what the price will be? The Hive and Wasp System
Wasps and their hives are USB-connected peripherals to eCoin mining computers. Those computers might be as small as a RaspberryPi, or as large as a fully rack-mounted industrial server PC. Each Wasp is a potentially stand-alone mining assembly, with its own local work generation, hasher configuration monitoring, and Stratum-II reporting. As a peripheral, a Wasp can communicate over its USB 2.0 compatible, Full Speed (12Mb/s) link to a program such as bfgminer, running on either a dedicated linux-board (R-Pi, BBB, etc) or a consumer PC with one of linux or Windows or Mac OS-X.
Some features of a Hive and Wasp system:
Wasps can be put into service as stand-alone hashing peripherals, in which case the stand-alone-Hive is a simple board to apply power and provide a connector for the USB cable.
Wasps can be stacked - they have mounting holes for things like brass standoffs, and up to four Wasps can be attached to a stacker-Hive, which would provide both power and USB hub for consolidating the 4 USB connections into a single USB peripheral.
Hives usually, however, are full industrial rack-mountable containers for Wasps and their power supplies. These containers allow multiple varieties of Wasp to live and work together (unlike the real-life wasps!), providing scalable, redundant power for up to 8 Wasps, with full hot-plug capabilities, graceful, programmable degradation in the case of power supply failures, and full industrial strength monitoring and control of Wasps, down to individual or small groups (4) of hashing chips.
Current Hives are designed for air cooling; water- and oil-cooled assemblies are proposed, which will increase density somewhat.
Wasps are currently designed as USB peripherals to a 'mining computer', but the hardware is designed to allow in-place upgrading to fully stand-alone headless blades, using a 10/100Mb Ethernet link built into each Wasp. Firmware space for this mode of operation is also already present on the current design. Ballpark... as we stated before all we have currently are just internal prototype base calculations for us to produce 20 Wasps prototypes and nothing yet for the hives. As soon as the Gerbers and BOM are released anyone will be able to get a quotation on these units so rather that post a number that will ultimately be superseded in a few weeks we will just wait for those to be released after we have working prototypes. That is expected in Late December or Early January 2014 and will be BitFury Wasps and BitMain Wasps varieties and a beta version of our Hive. Sorry we can't be of more help yet on pricing but we really do not want to put out anything that isn't 100% accurate.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project
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on: December 22, 2013, 06:38:07 AM
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Update:The time frame for the following items would be from now up to first or second week of January 2014. The WPC Prototype Wasps- We have in hand enough BitFury chips to produce 8+ prototype waps.
- We will have in hand enough BitMain chips to produce 8+ prototype wasp.
- We should have a first Hive prototype that is able to house wasps but as early prototype that will evolve.
- Target is to build a minimum of 20 total prototype boards in BitFury and BitMain configurations.
- If we have an odd assortment of chips we will also look at mixing and matching chips on the same Wasp.
- Video of the prototypes hashing will be made available to everyone.
- The gerbers and bom for the Wasp will be released only when we are confident that we have functional units.
- WPC will likely produce a small sample prototype run for testing and proof of concept purposes beyond the 20 initial boards.
The WPC Mining Pool- We will have a functional mining pool up and running before the new year or possibly within the first week of January.
- Full testing of the mining pool will start after Christmas.
- Tentatively 20 Th/s to 300 Th/s range for this pool is estimated by the end of January 2014.
The WPC Website- Site is ready except we want to have Wasp and Hive prototype pictures before we launch the site
- Site will add more and more functionality after it is live.
- Site will be a work in progress and feedback from WPC members and the community will undoubtedly be taken into account as we edit and modify the site.
The WPC Forums- We already have a public facing forum for the community but will open that up after we post some basic information.
- News & Announcements - "Official News & announcements of the WPC"
- Publications - "Publications of The Wasp Project Collective"
- Apply for Membership - "Learn about the options available for membership in the the WPC"
- Hardware Support - "Hardware support forum for our products"
- Software Support - "Software support forum for our products"
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Open Hardware Project] Hive & Wasp - Prototypes Coming in December 2013
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on: December 22, 2013, 06:36:30 AM
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Update:The time frame for the following items would be from now up to first or second week of January 2014. The WPC Prototype Wasps- We have in hand enough BitFury chips to produce 8+ prototype waps.
- We will have in hand enough BitMain chips to produce 8+ prototype wasp.
- We should have a first Hive prototype that is able to house wasps but as early prototype that will evolve.
- Target is to build a minimum of 20 total prototype boards in BitFury and BitMain configurations.
- If we have an odd assortment of chips we will also look at mixing and matching chips on the same Wasp.
- Video of the prototypes hashing will be made available to everyone.
- The gerbers and bom for the Wasp will be released only when we are confident that we have functional units.
- WPC will likely produce a small sample prototype run for testing and proof of concept purposes beyond the 20 initial boards.
The WPC Mining Pool- We will have a functional mining pool up and running before the new year or possibly within the first week of January.
- Full testing of the mining pool will start after Christmas.
- Tentatively 20 Th/s to 300 Th/s range for this pool is estimated by the end of January 2014.
The WPC Website- Site is ready except we want to have Wasp and Hive prototype pictures before we launch the site
- Site will add more and more functionality after it is live.
- Site will be a work in progress and feedback from WPC members and the community will undoubtedly be taken into account as we edit and modify the site.
The WPC Forums- We already have a public facing forum for the community but will open that up after we post some basic information.
- News & Announcements - "Official News & announcements of the WPC"
- Publications - "Publications of The Wasp Project Collective"
- Apply for Membership - "Learn about the options available for membership in the the WPC"
- Hardware Support - "Hardware support forum for our products"
- Software Support - "Software support forum for our products"
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: How Trolls Harrass Bitcoin Miner Manufacturers.
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on: December 22, 2013, 05:06:51 AM
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wow, no one is getting miners anywhere yet the network hashrate keeps flying up!!! you'd think miners would of organized by now and have a bit more control and say over their money?? is it time to form an association?? nah, they are out to make millions themselves and hate on each other!! You don't say.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.
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on: December 21, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
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Got my Little Single 25GH/s nearly a month ago. Started out as 15GH/s. Dropped to 4GH/s after a day. Would not start at all a day after that.
They've ignored all my RMA requests so far. Additionally, I'm in Europe...
Any advice?
Keep sending emails regarding RMA others have noted very very slow response times and with some persistence you might get lucky. You might want to check the other troubleshooting threads started in hardware / custom hardware. Particularly the bitcointalk member Lightfoot seems to have dealt with a number of issues with BFL products. Contact him. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365800.msg4070547#msg4070547Sticking to the topic at hand seeing as how BFL is not helping this customer.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance.
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on: December 21, 2013, 09:12:43 AM
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He is too busy to copy paste that all again... and where is SLOK? Did he give up as well now he has been sacrificed and demodded can we expect him to now turn over the darkside with us and be anti-BFL?
There is unfortunately plenty of good evidence to support that BFL has had a significant number of product failures as well as well under-performing units at this point if you have not had the time to read all the available forums and posts regarding this I just hope this little thread does save a few people the hassles of dealing with BFL in 2014 by dissuading them from purchasing anything BFL new or used.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project
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on: December 21, 2013, 08:47:41 AM
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Big meeting tomorrow... as we are going to received a number of important project updates on the Wasp and the Mining Pool as well as a pre-meeting to go over the the plans for a large production run for Wasps that will take place in January. All the members are keen on having modular miners on shelves before any sales start so we will be focused on the logistics challenges so that when Wasps and Hives are in stock we can ship direct in days thus given the community what is wants miners off the shelf.
Note to members we are moving off Zoho for most things administrative to our own forum over the next week or two so that we can communicate more directly with the WPC members. Please check your emails for the latest information on that move. We will phase out Zoho for all communications by January 2014 although we will retain some of the unique functions it has for project management over 2014 until we can integrate everything into our WPC servers.
We will post an update for everyone here before Monday.
And if anyone missed it at this time we are not accepting new members. Membership will reopen in Q1 2014 at some point in conjunction with a payment gateway for membership on our Website.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What factors do you look for in a legitimate bitcoin hardware company?
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on: December 21, 2013, 07:39:36 AM
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I wonder if 14 people would vote on a poll entitled "Help me refine my scams"?
BFL seems to get all the quality feedback they need to refine their scams and nothing gets done about it by the mods? Why worry about this poll and not warn people off BFL, seems pretty disingenuous to comment here and not about them as a Mod, no?
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Open Hardware Project] Hive & Wasp - Prototypes Coming in December 2013
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on: December 21, 2013, 06:53:37 AM
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Big meeting tomorrow... as we are going to received a number of important project updates on the Wasp and the Mining Pool as well as a pre-meeting to go over the the plans for a large production run for Wasps that will take place in January. All the members are keen on having modular miners on shelves before any sales start so we will be focused on the logistics challenges so that when Wasps and Hives are in stock we can ship direct in days thus given the community what is wants miners off the shelf.
Note to members we are moving off Zoho for most things administrative to our own forum over the next week or two so that we can communicate more directly with the WPC members. Please check your emails for the latest information on that move. We will phase out Zoho for all communications by January 2014 although we will retain some of the unique functions it has for project management over 2014 until we can integrate everything into our WPC servers.
We will post an update for everyone here before Monday.
And if anyone missed it at this time we are not accepting new members. Membership will reopen in Q1 2014 at some point in conjunction with a payment gateway for membership on our Website.
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Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] Logo Design Contest !!!! Ends on Dec. 31
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on: December 21, 2013, 06:33:06 AM
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Hi, I'm interested in sketching out a couple logo ideas for you.
Wanted to ask you about the overall project and intent to get an idea of what the flavor/theme of the logo should be:
What is Wasp Collective? What is the long-term business objective Who are your customers?
Thanks and let me know Cheers
Who are The Wasp Project Collective? What are Our Objectives? Who are Our Customers?The Wasp Project is owned and managed by it’s members. Whether we are customers, employees or simply members in good standing we act together to build a stronger BTC community and in the process a better world.
We are currently focused on helping the cryptocurrency community by providing mining hardware and mining pool solutions as soon as possible.We are to look at open source projects first and foremost as we believe that will bring about much needed change in the hardware / software BTC community as whole. Guiding Principles We would like to be the hub of a global collective BTC movement, as such The Wasp Project Collective, accepts these seven principles that guide all cooperative organizations:
Voluntary and open membership Democratic member control Member economic participation Autonomy and independence Education, training and information Co-operation among co-operatives and like minded projects in the Bitcoin community Concern for community
Balanced Job Complexes The WPC uses balanced job complexes which are organized so that every member will be regularly involved in both conception and execution of tasks, with comparable empowerment and quality of life circumstances for all. The precision of the balance depends on many factors, and would improve over time. At any rate, no individual would ever permanently occupy a position that would present himself/herself unusual opportunities to accumulate undue influence or knowledge. Every individual is welcomed to occupy a position that guarantees him or her an appropriate amount of empowering tasks. In essence, the human cost and benefit of work would be equally distributed. We share the work and spread it around throughout the coop. We, as members, are free to choose to work on any project and learn from mentors to help support the development of the project. Greater personal sacrifice made in the production of socially beneficial goods and services is legitimate grounds for greater access to those goods and services if the members agree. This idea allows our members the widest range of teaching/learning internships within the Wasp Project. We learn to be generalists not specialists so that we can better ourselves and others. Areas of Economic Interest As Wasp Project members we are interested in a number of diverse areas related to Bitcoin and alternative cryptocurrencies. The list includes, but is not limited to, the following: Mining Mining Hardware Mining Hardware Accessories Mining Hardware ASIC Chip Development Mining Hardware ASIC Board Development Mining Software Development Cryptocurrency Exchange Cryptocurrency Online Escrow Services Cryptocurrency E-Commerce Mining Pools
FAQ - Modular Miners Real Disruptive Innovation What does the Hive & Wasp Modular Miner bring to our community?
It will deliver, for the first time to the community, some form of obsolescence protection. Our prototype Wasps are designed and will test with legacy chips, as well as cutting edge chips soon to be released on the market. Imagine a fully populated Hive (backplane) that accept a variety of Wasps using Bitfury, V2 Avalon or other legacy chips as well as Wasp designed with the A1, Minion or future chips planned for Q2. Not only will we be able to produce Wasps with future SHA256 ASIC chips buy our own designers have plans to demonstrate the first SHA256 and Scrypt mining in the same modular design. That will truly be disruptive innovation for the those doing DIY as well as established resellers looking to create a truly lasting following base of end user. Our modular design will live on for years growing with the needs of the end user. What will the Hive & Wasp Modular Miner cost?
We are carefully designing our system to match or provide additional savings over “retail”, “pre-order” systems currently available. The one factor that holds back real saving are the costs of the ASIC chips and their availability. We avoid some of the vagaries of the marketplace as we are able on a moments notice to react and design based on chip prices and availability. We can provide short turn around time whether it is a new or older chip and based on our ability to redesign our current PCB with minimal changes. The Hive remains the same no matter what Wasp slots in. When will you be ready to mass produce your Hives & Wasp?
We will be testing our designs in the next few weeks. A fully populated prototype Hive hashing with 8 Wasps is probably ready in late December or Early January. We will be showing the community some of our work on the prototype in a video to be released after Christmas. Ideally we would hope to see Wasps and Hives being put through production at volume sometime in January 2014.
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