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3121  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Monarch update on: November 04, 2013, 12:46:11 AM
we feel our timeline to begin shipments towards the end of the year is solid."

 Respectfully, experience and history on these forums will clearly illustrate that the only thing that is solid, is the density of their bullshit.

... and volume.


3122  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft 28nm chip distribution (December W50, 42.5BTC/THps) on: November 03, 2013, 12:22:14 PM
Tick tick tock....


the clock... she is a ticking.

3123  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Monarch update on: November 03, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
From a typical tapeout... how many weeks to chips to a prototype board?

In the bitcoin realm, there is no difference between a working prototype and a shipping product.
BFL claims the hot lot takes 25 days, and that sounds about right for the asics themselves. Packaging, testing, binning, assembly etc if done right with a proper supply chain in place should only add a few days to that. KnC did it in less than a week, so its not impossible, but with BFL who knows.

They are not KnC that is for sure.
3124  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Monarch update on: November 03, 2013, 10:03:06 AM
Tapeout?

Did the chips even tapeout?

I guess they did not. from a previous announcement:

Late August/Early September Tape Out
There are two processes with this step that we are using. The initial process is what is called a bullet run, it will allow us to get a finished set of wafers in approximately 24 days from the date we tape out. This will result in a limited number of chips available.
The second process is the standard run, which takes between 75 and 90 days on average, and this is where the bulk of our chips will come from


If they had taped out, by their own schedule they should be getting their hot lot by the end of November and they would not claim shipping only one month later. Also note that  by their own schedule, the bulk shipment can only start 50-65 days later. End of december +~60 means early March instead of the "January/February" the are advertising. Of course on BFL's calender,  January has 65 days.

From a typical tapeout... how many weeks to chips to a prototype board?

Guessing as you are putting it they are lying already. Here is a good read.



http://www.samharris.org/lying
3125  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Monarch update on: November 03, 2013, 05:56:34 AM
From Joshie:


Just to update everyone on where we stand with the Monarch at the moment.

Current chip production has an expected delivery date in early/first half of December. We expect to have chips at that time and hope to have our first units shipped out the door by the end of December. We did not reach our goal of November delivery. Unlike our first generation ASIC devices, we already have the vendors in place and ready to go, along with the substrate design and manufacturing slotted in and geared up. Right now, we are not anticipating any issues but unexpected things do pop up. If they do, I will let people know as soon as I have definitive information regarding that, otherwise we are on target for a December release. If anything changes, I will let everyone know, via this thread, as soon as I have the information.

Let me reiterate that if you are uncomfortable with pre-ordering for cutting edge, custom designed technology and all the risks that it implies, please do not place a pre-order and wait until the products are shipping and available. If you do choose to pre-order, please understand that unforseen problems and delays can and do happen and we will do our best to alert everyone to them when we encounter them and have had time to assess what the impact will be on the timeline.

Our production capacity is geared up and ready to go. With the extreme simplicity of the Monarch compared to our 65nm product line, we do not anticipate any difficulties in getting units built and out the door in a rapid fashion. Compared to our current generation, assuming no parts shortages, we should be able to product more than 1000 Monarchs per day. For reference, the Monarch should use ~12 screws and two discrete parts (board and HSF), compared to even our most simple device, the Jalapeno, which has over 20 discrete parts, assembly is trivial and should pose no issues.

The current expected date for our chips out of the foundry is early December. Obviously nothing will be shipping in November. Projected target is end of December but that is, as usual, subject to change. When I have more info I will share it.


Tapeout?

Did the chips even tapeout?
3126  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: November 03, 2013, 03:22:14 AM
Update we have had a number of discussions with members and we are confident that we will have enough chips from a variety of sources to demonstrate a working prototype in November of the Hive and Wasp. Boards are being printed at this time.

Chips that are or will be available to the EE:

+ A1's ordered. (December)
+ KnC chip. (Now)
+ Avalon Gen I chips. (Now)
+ BitFury chips. (Now)
+ Minion chips. (February)

Given the design we are able to integrate pretty much any ASIC chip into a Wasp.

We will be prototyping 3 Hives.

1. Small Hive for single Wasp for DIY, hobbyists.
2. Mid Sized Hive for multiple Wasps for DIY, hobbyists and datacenters for testing configurations using multiple ASICs.
3. Full Sized Scalable Hive for larger mining operations looking to replace aging inefficient miners.

3127  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Black Arrow offers FROM STOCK 40Gghash boards based on Bitfury 55nm ASICs on: November 02, 2013, 09:02:43 AM
We have managed to get stable 40Ghash on these boards, therefore the 144Ghash offer is now 160Ghash.

Nice work.
3128  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: November 02, 2013, 07:19:22 AM
So the article is just the result of the same vague marketing answers as always or they promised them real dates that they can't give to their actual customers?

I guess.
3129  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Jalapeņo on: November 02, 2013, 05:49:41 AM
So Tiger did you get your Jala yet?
3130  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 3-15-13 update...Testing to Shipping...in "days". on: November 02, 2013, 05:46:05 AM
Back to the thread title - while it may be shipping in days, English allows for larger units like weeks, months, years that might be more appropriate.  June 23rd 1st day orders for Singles are still not shipped (60+ after this thread started).


... the shipping is what 7.5 months behind still?
3131  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Should I buy a 60 Gh/s Butterfly Labs Single on: November 02, 2013, 05:33:57 AM
should i buy a 60 Gh/s Butterfly Labs Single  right now for 1,000 would i make my money back in a week?
No, and no.

-R8
have u looked at a bitcoin calculator

Why did you ask the question?

No... means no, and no and no means no and no.
3132  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: November 02, 2013, 02:00:53 AM
Features of the Quad A1 Wasp (Prototype)

+ Has 4 Bitminer A1 asics, with individually configurable power and hashing rates, resulting in 100 - 160 GH/s per blade.

+ Has front and back mounted water cooling. If oil immersion is desired, the front and back coolers can be omitted. Blades will monitor  
   temperatures continually in any case, and Safe-Operating-Area will be enforced.

+ Has push-to-plug button for safe hot-plug/unplug to protect expensive hashing chips.

+ Has built-in self-test (BIST) that can be run at any time, even while hashing. Upon entering Test mode, normal ongoing hashing operations  
   will be suspended, the suspension/resumption reported to the USB driver, and BIST results displayed via LEDs. A header is provided, for the
   attachment of a serial control panel and display. This allows a technician to take the blade offline without removing it, run diagnostics and
   access the BIST results and the on-blade failure log, with the same control panel that can be used for the entire rack (or a battery-powered
   hand held one just like it, if the rack-control is not mounted).

+ Has two USB configurations - one for normal operation, and one for debugging and testing. This allows a technician to (once he has
   identified a failed blade visually or programmatically) place the blade in Test mode, which automatically disconnects it from the controller's  
   mining software, and allows him to connect to the card with a debugging/test program without moving the card, in order to diagnose.
   Blades can be placed into Test mode manually, with an on-blade pushbutton, or under software control, from the mining software or
   debugging software (can be made invisible to the mining software). This allows for remote management of an unattended rack.

+ Has LED indicators for Blade-Ready/Configured/Operating, as well as for successful share detection. Operational state is indicated by a
   multi-colored LED, so distinctions between Operating/Degraded/Sick/Failed can be discerned on visual inspection.

+ Has an LED indicator for remote blade identification. A tech can tell a blade to blink its ID LED, either from the controlling computer, or  
   from the backplane connection to the debug/monitoring console. The backplane that it is plugged into also has similar remote-visual-ID
   capability. This allows a technician to easily identify one blade out of a whole rack, for servicing or testing.

+ Has power-on indicator LED for each of 3.3V, 5V, 12V, and 5Vsb.


As always we are looking for members to support the development of this project drop me a PM or email. We will be adding the life time 1 BTC membership fee starting this month. Members can set up their own payment plans that include immediate full payment or periodic payments over the next 12 months.

3133  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Other purposes for ASIC hardware. on: November 02, 2013, 01:29:04 AM
Uses for obsolete ASIC hardware (hint ASIC = Application SPECIFIC Integrated Circuit = "it only does one thing")
1) Stepping Stool
2) Door stop
3) Paperweight for a really big stack of papers
4) Improvised Blunt force weapon

5) Educational tool for school to learn about Bitcoin / Altcoin with.

Donate a few to me we'd love to have a few of them in the classroom.
3134  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Open Source Avalon Gen2 55nm Board on: November 02, 2013, 01:25:22 AM

Wherever BkkCoins is now, i wish him all the best, and may he come back soon.




Agreed.

-------

Not sure how much support there is for chips from Avalon given what they have done to everyone. Plus the fact the chips "underperform" and are not as "cost effective" as Bitfury chips which are available right now.

Personally I'd really want to support efforts like this if there are future plans to utilize other chips other than Avalon.
3135  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: -- Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: November 02, 2013, 01:21:13 AM
Those bums at BFL deleted every post I ever made on their website after permanently banning me.

 They did you a favor. Best to just move on and continue raising awareness of their shenanigans on these forums.

 Be aware, that they have broken their privacy policy, so expect intimidation efforts on their part in attempting to silence you, and they will then lie by saying the information they disseminated was already publicly available.

 Illegitimi non carborundum.



Cut the tether and float free.
3136  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: November 02, 2013, 01:12:11 AM
What can i say, that article is a really interesting article over nothing on a website of nothing.
Quite weird, that they had to pay/contact the website to publish... Such nothing.

Website probably contacted them... as the website has contacted a lot of people and asked for articles about their "projects".

3137  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft 28nm chip distribution (December W50, 42.5BTC/THps) on: November 01, 2013, 11:57:17 AM
Le bumpty bump... hoping Dick gets a reply soon.
3138  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: November 01, 2013, 09:02:44 AM
Dave, I really hate being "that guy", but it is presently November 1st.

Could we please get a status update on our October orders ?


Do you hate being that guy?

Wink Wouldn't be nice if you didn't have to ask?
3139  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs on: October 31, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
Butterfly Labs Customer? Please review your buying Experience with this company.Thank you

http://www.bitcoinsniper.com/asic-miners/butterfly-labs/



THIS BUSINESS IS NOT BBB ACCREDITED

BF Labs, Inc.
Phone: (913) 710-4865
10770 El Monte St Ste 101, Overland Park, KS 66211
http://butterflylabs.com

On a scale of A+ to F

F

The business failed to resolve the complaint issues (1 complaint)
10/17/2013    Problems with Product/Service


BBB was unable to locate business to process complaint (1 complaint)
7/25/2013    Delivery Issues


BBB did not receive a response from business (2 complaints)
10/25/2013    Delivery Issues
10/22/2013    Problems with Product/Service


http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/Business-Reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011/complaints#breakdown
3140  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: October 31, 2013, 12:49:12 PM
Got my BFL shipping notice.  Nice to see USPS confirm pickup about two hours after I got my notification!  

How many months was it late?

No ROI for you. Now I get why you want people to know mining hardware is a NO ROI zone. Too bad you didn't get your BFL product when it was promised.


Jalapenos, Little Singles and Singles, the Block Erupters of the current era.


Revenue on a Jalapeno that cost $274 with free electricity is $69 by April 2014 then revenue is less than $1 per month so ROI would be achieved in about 400+ months. Unless of course BTC went up to $100,000 then ROI would only be 2 years LOL

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