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3341  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Best MotherBoard for Butterfly Labs Monarch PCI card? on: October 08, 2013, 05:07:46 AM
Motherboard?

What about the ASIC chip? Would you not want to wait till they have that done before worrying about a Mobo to fit given they have not even tested that prototype?
3342  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: October 08, 2013, 05:01:10 AM
I have attempted to contact him several times via email but no reply.

Ideally one person who has his phone number should try and get hold of him to find out what is up. I hope he is ok.
3343  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 08, 2013, 03:42:08 AM
Q.A.D.

Quit Adding Denominators.
3344  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Blue Fury Miners V2 2.6Gh/s on: October 08, 2013, 02:27:17 AM
So... possibly higher than 90% for the next couple months at least. Ouch.
Yes, everyone get prepared for your orifices to be stretched to the max for some time to come.

The bubble she is a big one.
3345  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Blue Fury Miners V2 2.6Gh/s on: October 08, 2013, 02:15:36 AM
Are these 0.05BTC yet?  Waiting for that pricing.

I hope not because those of us who ordered at 0.8btc are still waiting for delivery  Angry
Pricing has not changed and will never go down to 0.05BTC it would be impossible.
Why would it be impossible?  When they won't make 0.05BTC in a lifetime, it will definitely be possible.  I just want one as a toy/museum piece.
Well the chip alone from bitfury is 6x the price you are expecting. Also what kind of calculations are you using that 2.6 ghs won't mine 0.05 in a lifetime? I am going to tell you now it is impossible unless bitfury bring chip pricing down to $1 and we can get a 20000 unit run to bring pcb and parts down also.

฿0.05 is wrong calculation. Single 2.6GH/s miner, starting to mine today, and with 90% monthly difficulty rise, will mine ฿0.37 during it's lifetime.

Is 90% monthly rise normal now for eternity?

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

90% monthly difficulty rise would be normal at least for a few months. Current KnC delivery hasn't been accounted for yesterdays difficulty increase, expect even higher next percentage rise. HashFast is delivering by the end of this month and is promising to more than double the current network hash-rate before new year, currently we have 1.5 PHs, HashFast alone will dump 2PHs. We will also get KnC batch #2 in the mix in the same timeframe. When all this is deployed we will get astronomic CoinTerra dump, they are biggest of all these manufacturers and nobody knows exactly their influence yet. I'm not even counting smaller chip makers like Bitfury, Avalon Gen 2, AsicMiner Gen 2, etc. So, 90% monthly increase is extremely conservative expectation for next 4-6 months, feel free to use much bigger number for your calculations, but with conservative 90% a month you get ฿0.37 expected earnings for this USB Bitfury miner.

So... possibly most probably higher than 90% for the next couple months at least. Ouch.

3346  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 08, 2013, 02:13:14 AM
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1/9 in BFL math.
3347  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: October 08, 2013, 02:06:22 AM
This brings that same warm fuzzy feeling to my heart that the klondike project did (before Yifu ruined it).  I'll be watching this thread.  Can anyone listen in on a meeting, or is is only "important project people"? If anyone can listen in, I'd love to join you guys.

We are all important. Drop me an email or PM and I will add you to the google hangout.

Thing is we want to get people on board and in the project over the longer term so if you want to be in on the meeting just make the pledge you will be in it for the longer term. At this point we are looking to have members put in 1 BTC to make that pledge coming soon and from that we are looking to move this project forward with the sweat equity of all of us plus those that can invest money will. The plan is for the members to share the Intellectual Property equally as well as the revenue generated from the Open Source Hardware and Software that might come out of the project.

So bottom line I can add you to the google hangout area just drop me an email. You can have a look at the chats and decide if you are keen to keep helping or just wait for us to update this thread or when our website goes up you can follow along there. We will be working on the articles / bylaws for The Wasp Project Cooperative and when we are set then membership will be open to anyone willing to pay the membership fees and agree to the terms. We are also looking at shares in the cooperative in 3 tiers but that is still under discussion.

I think anyone who is really interested in pushing a DIY project would be very interested in joining this Coop and supporting it. Given the challenges with difficulty increases of 90% per month these sorts of projects really have to be mindful of the fact that mining is incredibly risky at the moment and that such projects really need a lot of sweat equity to cut costs down. There could be a really fine range of products come from this Coop but the times are tough and chip manufacturers need to be aware of that fact. I don't know if profitability is possible given the numbers but this is also for the DIY community, and most of us in this area are hobbyists, we also believe that this is worth pursuing even it is just break even of a small loss to keep the community interested in mining. Diversity is still important and this could be one offering to keep that going.
3348  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YIFU IS AUCTIONNING? on: October 07, 2013, 12:03:10 PM
I would have thought that nobody would buy from Yifu ever again after the chip fiasco. I guess people have short memories.


Does BFL give you that warm and fuzzy feel as well or are you still hawking their shit as well?
3349  Other / Off-topic / Re: A BFL ASIC 1000 BTC bet that looks like Inaba lost on: October 07, 2013, 11:20:34 AM
Le Bumpage.
3350  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Blue Fury Miners V2 2.6Gh/s on: October 07, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
Are these 0.05BTC yet?  Waiting for that pricing.

I hope not because those of us who ordered at 0.8btc are still waiting for delivery  Angry
Pricing has not changed and will never go down to 0.05BTC it would be impossible.
Why would it be impossible?  When they won't make 0.05BTC in a lifetime, it will definitely be possible.  I just want one as a toy/museum piece.
Well the chip alone from bitfury is 6x the price you are expecting. Also what kind of calculations are you using that 2.6 ghs won't mine 0.05 in a lifetime? I am going to tell you now it is impossible unless bitfury bring chip pricing down to $1 and we can get a 20000 unit run to bring pcb and parts down also.

฿0.05 is wrong calculation. Single 2.6GH/s miner, starting to mine today, and with 90% monthly difficulty rise, will mine ฿0.37 during it's lifetime.

Is 90% monthly rise normal now for eternity?

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
3351  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s on: October 07, 2013, 10:17:15 AM
CoinTerra is proud to announce the specs of our first ASIC chip GoldStrike1 (aka GS1)

GS1 is a 28nm chip and will be one of the highest performance ASICs in the Bitcoin mining world with a hash rate greater than 0.5TH at a power consumption of significantly less than 1 watt/GH. More details later this month before we take preorders.

The GS1 chips are expected to arrive late Q4 2013.

Our website will be ready to take preorders later this month with a range of products involving one or multiple units of the GS1.

Just chips available?
3352  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Monarch butterfly prototype on: October 07, 2013, 05:54:27 AM

My point is that BFL isnt going to struggle with hotspots on that chip ... (snip)

What chip?



3353  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: October 07, 2013, 05:47:29 AM
Developing an ASIC platform for the future of DIY mining.

1. The Hive (Mother plane)

Microcontroller
Power Supply
8 Hot swap connections for 4 chip modular Wasps (blades)
Daisy chaining possible for higher density with a basic Hive (Mother plane) without microcontroller and power supply.

2. The Wasp (Blades for various 28nm Chips)

1 - 4 chips on a single Wasp.

A1 Wasp
Bitmine *80 Gh/s Overclocked (Wasp will have 4 chips)
8 units would be 0.64 Th/s per Hive

* https://bitmine.ch/?page_id=863

Minion Wasp
Black Arrow **520 Gh/s (Wasp will have 4 chips)
8 units would be 4.16 Th/s per Hive

** http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/minion.html

Golden Nonce Wasp
Hash Fast ***400 Gh/s (Wasp will have 1 chip)
8 units would be 3.2 Th/s per Hive
Additional PDU / PSU required


*** https://hashfast.com/shop/baby-jet-upgrade-kit/

Gold Strike Wasp
Cointerra 28nm ****500 Gh/s (Wasp will have 1 chip)
8 units would be 4 Th/s per Hive
Additional PDU / PSU required

**** http://cointerra.com/product/terraminer-ii-1ths-networked-miner-january-batch/

Just some rough ideas we are working on currently and we are hoping to get one of these prototypes going this year or early next year. Looking at the current timeline for these companies Bitmine is selling chips so they would be first for us to prototype. We are also considering using some older Gen1 ASIC chips to test The Hive as well give how cheap these chips might be in the next few months. Note we are always looking for more people to join The Wasp Project Cooperative so drop me a PM if you are interested in working with us on this project.
3354  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Monarch butterfly prototype on: October 07, 2013, 05:40:07 AM

My point is that BFL isnt going to struggle with hotspots on that chip ... (snip)

What chip?
3355  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: October 02, 2013, 01:46:52 PM

Agenda

1. New Members Profiles
2. Review of Black Arrow, Bitmine and Cointerra Chip proposals
3. Membership, IPO / Investment and Sales Discussion
4. Prototype Discussion
5. Delegation of project duties.
6. Planning for next meeting.

This is an open meeting. so contact me by PM or Email and I will add you to the Google group hangout.

-----

Minutes for 2nd meeting are posted in the Zoho Project page.
3356  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [The Wasp] 28nm ASIC Miner Open Hardware Development Project on: October 02, 2013, 05:43:07 AM
Was supposed to meet with Bitmine.ch on skype last night but was not contacted before I logged off around 8:30pm. I will follow up tonight and try to get this meeting done.

Completed meeting with Bitmine.ch. Went well have posted info in our Group Hangout on google. Review the info and prepare for the meeting on Saturday at 2130 WIB (Jakarta)
Sunday at 0030 Sydney time.
3357  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: I promise NEVER to purchase anything Again from ButterFlylabs !!! on: October 01, 2013, 08:37:39 AM
Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


No need to waste that much effort.

1. Don't buy BFL.
2. See #1 repeat.
3. BFL folds.

Problem is solved.

3358  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release on: October 01, 2013, 08:33:33 AM
No thanks. They had chips in hands and failed to deliver on time and sold them out from under those who had bought them. They basically screwed over the DIY designers and fabricators.

0 trust. No Sale.
3359  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 01, 2013, 04:01:31 AM
Time to get the clock running in the NEGATIVE... to find out how long they take to actually complete their BACKLOG based on this estimate.

Wonder if Gmaxwell has anything to add?
3360  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: October 01, 2013, 03:33:03 AM
I don't see any BTC payment only ASIC hardware companies surviving through 2014. Yifu and Zerlan/Sonny have put a real hurt on Trustworthy asic pre-orders with BTC.

Disagree with that somewhat there is ample room for companies with positive reputations and they could take BTC only. If a company can do that then they could have more market share as it is infinitely easier to deal in BTC.
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