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3421  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Coincraft A1 28nm ASIC] - Discuss Group Buy Chip to Miner (DIY: THE WASP) on: September 20, 2013, 06:21:22 AM
My Apologies. Saturday Night... 21st September.
3422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: September 20, 2013, 06:18:36 AM
I get the feeling BFL is having assembly issues and not chip-shortage issues.

Actually they're having honesty shortages and integrity issues.

And the winner is... nice I see what you did there.
3423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Has BFL found a new way to screw over it's customers, I'll let you be the judge. on: September 20, 2013, 06:15:42 AM
But this cloud hashing takes all the fun out of it.  I might as well buy and hold BTC or just watch my stock portfolio.

Psst! I think most would point to the fun has left the building after GPU's got killed off.
3424  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Has BFL found a new way to screw over it's customers, I'll let you be the judge. on: September 20, 2013, 06:14:37 AM
Simple solution: Never send money to someone until they have a product in stock.

Or have never missed their shipping dates...
3425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 55nm USB Miners, as good as it gets? on: September 20, 2013, 06:02:13 AM
The A1 28nm could be done as a USB... +20 Gh/s. Possible, but probably better to think of something that has a bit more "punch". Power wouldn't be an issue with A1 Chips as a USB but only having >20 Gh/s might. At some point there is a limit to building USB miners because of the diminishing returns on less hash power.

https://bitmine.ch/?product=coincraft-ai-asic


Code:
Power usage* of 0.35 W/GH in low power, 0.6 W/GH in nominal and 1 W/GH in Turbo mode

You would need something unlike a USB but something that has a backplane to slot into.
3426  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Coincraft A1 28nm ASIC] - Discuss Group Buy Chip to Miner (DIY: THE WASP) on: September 19, 2013, 06:50:47 AM
The Wasp 1st Planning Meeting:

Saturday, 21st of September

11:30 PM EST (USA)
8:30 PM MTN (USA)
9:30 AM WIB (INDONESIA) Sunday 22nd.

Drop me a PM and email so I can add you to the Google Hangout we created.
3427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CROWD FUNDING ASIC on: September 19, 2013, 06:47:57 AM
This user has REAL interest in this project.

It could be integrate nicely with this proposal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294551.msg3157477#msg3157477 in a 2nd or 3rd iteration.

well in your project you re starting with already bought chips.

here we start from almost scratch



The "board" we are designing is the 'from scratch' part... possibly when you are ready we can work this crowd funded chip into the design as well. We love the idea of using something that is community based and could marry into the open hardware design we are proposing.
3428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CROWD FUNDING ASIC on: September 19, 2013, 04:54:19 AM
This user has REAL interest in this project.

It could be integrate nicely with this proposal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294551.msg3157477#msg3157477 in a 2nd or 3rd iteration.
3429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Asic Arms Race 28mn chips on: September 19, 2013, 03:41:49 AM
Start adding solar panels to your datacentre. Smiley

-MarkM-


Suggest you go pig shit and plant fiber biodigestor and use methane to produce power. Get your farms to a farm.
3430  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Coincraft A1 28nm ASIC] - Discuss Group Buy Chip to Miner (DIY: THE WASP) on: September 19, 2013, 01:32:11 AM
Im on.... a lot more than I should be.
minerhosting@gmail.com

Aye to that. Real world always infringing on my play time here as well.
3431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [BitFury USB Miner] 0.69 BTC with Hashrate up to 2.7 Gh/s on: September 19, 2013, 01:24:44 AM
Can you please tell us what hub you are using with your miners?  Its a very nice setup.  For some reason i cant find any info for what your using.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292433.msg3150846#msg3150846

Quote
Speak to Jason: sales-1@dipo-electron.com, plz mention my name in any contact and pm me before.

Jason
Mob:+86 15012810165
Tel:+86 0769 82160202-85
Fax:+86 0769 82160402-88
Skype:diposales01
MSN:diposales01@hotmail.com
Email:sales-1@dipo-electron.com
Web:www.dipo.net.cn
www.dipo-electron.com
Address:No.1,Third Reservoir Industry Road,Guanjingtou Village,FengGang Town,DongGuan,China

cheers,
kev

Posted in the first thread... it is a Chinese brand you can buy direct on Alibaba.
3432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [BitFury USB Miner] 0.69 BTC with Hashrate up to 2.7 Gh/s on: September 18, 2013, 03:51:31 PM
You are asking people to invest their money and for them to take the risk that your product will still be reasonably priced for the difficulty increase by the time you are ready to ship, when you aren't even in a position to confirm a shipping date. You invest your money, you take the risk, it is not fair you play games with other peoples money. Then, when you have your product in hand, ready to ship, give us a price that reflects the market value and we will place our orders.

We are giving the price based on what we can afford to sell them at now and be able to produce 300 units. It is posted. Make your choice whether you want to buy or not. Not sure we need to wait to have the units in hand because we are waiting on the cheaper BitFury chips to make this run possible. Feel free to make an assessment on future "market value" and buy or don't buy. If we do not get 300 orders then we don't produce these units simple as that. Seems pretty clear and straightforward we are clearly capable of producing the units and have given ample warnings in the OP about the vagaries of chip shipments and what not and if we don't ship by October 31st refunds. 4) You pay 100%, which is only refundable if I fail to deliver in time (due 31st October) Unlike some other sellers in the ASIC market we actually refund people and are pretty reputable to date. Please take that into account when purchasing as well.
3433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [BitFury USB Miner] 0.69 BTC with Hashrate up to 2.7 Gh/s on: September 18, 2013, 03:40:03 PM
See also this thread?

Believe that thread nearly ready to close as most are sold.
3434  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Fastest USB miner in the world. 2.5 gh/s on: September 18, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
Not a scam. 18RATTT is a member of our group. We have started to open pre orders for our batch 2.
Thanks for the clarification.

Next time, please try to confirm the posts/threads of your new members (in the forum) to avoid confusion and unnecessary doubts.

He isn't new. Original member. At times different members take the lead. Trust us if someone trying to pass themselves off as a BPMC member we would jump on it pretty fast.
3435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon chips refund not received - Lawsuit action proposal on: September 18, 2013, 12:20:57 PM
Good News

BG1 refund was finally received.

I am sending the list for GB1 refunds to John K now for him to start asap refunding the buyers.

As I mentioned before we will not be held responsible for wrong btc addresses in the list, etc.


Better late than never!!


Not really... what would have been better is this.

THE CHIPS WERE DELIVERED ON TIME!
3436  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: September 18, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Thank goodness gents... glad you are clear!
3437  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Coincraft A1 28nm ASIC] - Discuss Group Buy Chip to Miner (DIY: THE WASP) on: September 18, 2013, 11:07:08 AM
Agreed on the math end and really being strict on the production requirements if we use a SINGLE production site for everyone involved... good to have as best costing and projections as possible before moving forward with funding. Going from design to PCB prototype can be done with moderate effort and oversight but having things vetted out first is nice to take the worry out. The plan is not to release anything to the wider DIY community until everything is working properly right up to and including the firmware / drivers.

Note this is an open group buy not restricted to BPMC members only I just wanted to push the DIY idea forward with The Wasp project so that it is really for the whole community, or those interested in supporting it at least, sort of like how the DIY for the Avalon started. Potentially others may break off to do their own version of the A1 Asics once everything is released and working. Keep that in mind I can give you a rough guesstimates on BF1s that BPMC from my own research on the production costs in Jakarta as I just received a quote for production of BF1s yesterday. Unfortunately the latest drop in Rupiah ate into the margin somewhat so component prices spiked a bit in the last two months so I am more interested in moving towards The Wasp as I see great potential especially with the 20 to 40 gh/s range per chip.

Internally though, given what I have seen with the Klondike Nano and the RedFury, you can overcome a lot of misery simply by making sure you have the money ready to cover chips and production and keep it safe if refunds are necessary. I personally had to handle 780 BTC twice in our failed K1 Nano project and that was nerve racking let me tell you. 80K is not fun to handle in digital currency.

In terms of moving forward though please contact me via PM or email with a short blurb about yourself and your skills sets and interesting in this project and how you might help. We are going to have an online discussion (text) via gtalk this weekend. I will get everyone in on the chat just provide me your gmail.

Thinking Saturday afternoon US Eastern Standard Time or Sunday morning Eastern Standard Time?
3438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Has BFL found a new way to screw over it's customers, I'll let you be the judge. on: September 18, 2013, 06:26:37 AM
<In a holy and commanding sounding voice>



"BFL, let my people [the community] go!"

That is God... you need Moses.


3439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [FAILED]Butterfly Labs 30 day countdown to the end of September on: September 18, 2013, 05:09:24 AM
Inaba_Josh got tired of fighting the truth here so he made a shrewd move and bought two ex-naysayers to be Shills.

BFL can't buy us all off now can they?



They can buy me off here is how.


1. Refund everyone who asks.
2. Do not post misleading advertisements.
3. Be transparent.

Shit... how about just following these rules https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282030.msg3024895#msg3024895 for doing business with the community?
3440  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [BitFury USB Miner] 0.69 BTC with Hashrate up to 2.7 Gh/s on: September 18, 2013, 12:50:17 AM
Depending on fabrication site the price of these units you might find marginally lower production costs in Indonesia but you would have to cut out some steps and drop the heat sink and with a much larger quantity produced there is little to be gained you could find slightly lower unit costs if they are fabricated in China, but then we lose control over the fabrication and the time to customer will slow and that is not something we are keen to do and shipping then cuts that margin gain again. Price point is reasonable and fair given again the time and effort (costs) to bring this to the market, but again I think people need to calculate things out and make the call as with the earlier units. Clearly if there are not enough orders then there will unlikely be a 2nd run of these units and you will be refunded. As always we are clearly pointing out the limits and pitfalls and not hiding from the buyers.

What we really need to do for all ASICs, including our BPMC units, is find a secondary use like vanity address generator or some sort rig that can help the folding@home projects. http://folding.stanford.edu/ then ROI on BTC won't be the only factor in calculating value of the units.
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