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661  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: February 04, 2015, 09:43:14 AM
Let's not derail from the main subject. Why are you favoring old and outdated ratings instead of adjusting them to reflect reality?

Read the changelog.

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*Although SpondooliesTech is currently selling out of hand, they have not yet demonstrated that their business model can support this into the next generation. On the announcement of next gen preorders, this rating will return to 'Yes'. On the announcement of next gen in hand / batch sales, this rating will increase to 'Batch' or 'No'.

Why is SP-Tech the only company that is being rated by their business model supporting or not their next gen? Why treat SP-Tech differently and why not reflect the present?

Bias.


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74
Uses own chips?
Delivered miners?
Uses preorders?
No
Yes
Batch
1/10
10/10
16/20
On time?
Quality Issues?
Refund Issues?
Yes
Minor
No
10/10
6/10
10/10
Communication
Ethics
Size
Good

Medium
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10/10
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Last Score: 74Designs and sells boards integrating every time of 3rd party chip on the market.
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Continued...

Look at Technobit's score.

No mention of the fraud perpetrated... and a 10 out of 10 for ethics please do not make me laugh.

On time? Fudge no... many issues for customers on that end.

Refund Issues? Many.

He keeps his "pals" or "customers" in the best range vs. those he has had issues with. I can only imagine what the rating would really be for some of these companies if he wasn't a paid spokesman.
662  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is minersource.net legit on: February 04, 2015, 09:39:37 AM
i recieved this PM from thomas, everything looks good on that page.

the idea of sending to jordan is not good, the customs there is so high, and then i have to ship it again to dubai.

shipping to india or singapore might work, checking with some indian friends who work here in dubai, to see if i can manage it to be sen to india, replace all illegalities then send it back to dubai.


thanks for all your help.


for the info, i have a 200A store with free electricity and internet and free cooling, i work as IT Manager in dubai, and have lots of locations in the company i can use with no cost affecting my pocket, so thanks everyone for your help here.



Wish you luck.
663  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic . Results in. on: February 03, 2015, 05:08:28 AM
Thank you for doing poll.  Interesting results seems to be a pattern.  With polls on here then there showing same seems to have extra proof.

Well the poll results show current mind set of people mining at home right now.  there are 2 pieces of gear a lot of us use the s-5 or the sp20

these polls started right after bitmaintech raised price from 310 to 340 to 370 usd.  most of the time sp-tech had a stable price for the sp-20

Avalon 4.1 has not had much in the way of reivews So most every one will pick bitmaintech or spondoolies tech 1st or second.

with mixed results for third.

If this was done in august I believe  bitmaintech would have won..   This is the point of the entire  thread current results.

Does anyone care that KNC was like a  god in sept. oct. nov. of 2013.

Next month bitmaintech could come out with an s-6 that is truly great they would and should boost in the polling if they do this.

Considering that  there are 3 pieces of gear for a home miner to choose at the moment in the 600 watt 1200 gh area.  I never thought I would see the fights this caused.

  As this unfolded so poorly with groups picking sides it has shown me more and more to just mine  and not really put out anything at all.

Look at who made the poll an issue.

Basically any fanboi's for a specific fabricator at this stage has a reason other than home mining and profitability.

Suffice to say it is well known and has been for months that Spondoolies far exceeds the customer service and delivery of all other fabricators and will likely continue to do so. I would suggest that the commercial level they also far exceed in customer service and delivery as well. With a superior quality product I think Spondoolies will likely become the default equipment for cloud mining in 2015/6 for anyone besides the likes of BitFury, Bitmain, Asicminer or KnC.
664  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Spondoolies-Tech vs Bitmain for a larger operation? on: January 31, 2015, 05:08:03 PM
Can't go wrong with either SPTech or Bitmain for the time being. Bitmain, IMO, is priced a bit high at the moment but it's really a coin-toss between the S5 and SP20. Both are great products.

Personally, I'm favoring SPTech lately, and feel that Bitmain is starting to become hostile towards the home miner.

Having said that, I understand SPTech is not targeting the home mining market for their next gen, so, the entire mining scene is in a transition right now with Bitmain seemingly starting to go the BitFury route Sad

Where else can anyone go?

The home market is dead.

The commercial cloud operations are the only people willing to buy in enough volume to keep these fabricators from folding up shop. This was the last time you will see most of these companies hawking wares here.
665  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is minersource.net legit on: January 31, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Technobit gets a 10 on ethics? Has he ever read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=682105 about the minion boards? Sure it's a bobsag-started thread, but that was just facilitating a group deal which minersource was also a customer of. Technobit's only six months late delivering on probably hundreds of boards (while continuing to do business on other things, make new products while ignoring existing customers...), and minersource probably lost more money on that shaft than anyone else.

There is PLENTY more available on technobit outright fraud but Dogie I guess is a paid spokesmen for them as well given that rating seems to be a few of those type ratings in his guide. Minersource to my knowledge has also defrauded at least one other fabricator like the claim black arrow made and have as Gleb said left a trail of broken contracts beyond what you read in these forums typically. Do not deal with either company. Further just avoid Dogie's hardware guide too many inconsistencies with regards to turning a blind eye to fraud or lack of ethics.
666  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is minersource.net legit on: January 31, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
Being small is not an excuse for breaking consumer law. When they ventured to profit from those transactions, they were also contracting themselves to customers. What happens in the sale between minersource and blackarrow has no bearing what so ever on the sales between customers and minersource.

Exactly! That's what shows how pathetic minersource is. They pass their problems on to their customers, rather than fix their problems. That's a horrible business and no one should risk their money on such a business.

Funny Dogie seems to give Technobit a pass on their crimes with his ratings system giving them a 10 on ethics and what not... hypocrite much? Ample evidence of both these outfits acting more or less criminally. And evidence they hoodwinked people with the minersource / technobit group buy board build. SHOCKING what they did to a number of buyers.
667  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED]Minion Chip Assembly GB on: January 30, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
Is this company still alive? Sent back 8 boards, they arrived 2 weeks ago, can not get any response from them.

Marto might be online but he rarely fixes problems to the satisfaction of those who have asked and asked and asked for a resolution.
668  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is minersource.net legit on: January 30, 2015, 02:06:09 PM
I can't order it directly from the official website, because I live in Dubai, and we are not allowed to receive products shipped from that country. Because of political turbulence.

Any other website I can buy the SP35 that is legit and tried by community members here?

Thanks.

Bicknellski remind me the use of freight forwarder.
Try to find freight forwarder in Jordan. Ask if they can accept shipping from Israel then ship the good to UAE.

Singapore or India be a better bet or Hong Kong. Plenty online and if you have a few Chinese or Indian nationals as friends it wouldn't be that hard.
669  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is minersource.net legit on: January 30, 2015, 07:59:03 AM
Stay away from Minersource. They have stolen $1050000 from us, we're currently discussing with the police and lawyers.




Pot calling the kettle black? LOL.

How much did "Minersource" take from other fabricators? That be an interesting question to investigate. My understanding is that BlackArrow wasn't the first to make such a claim.

Steer clear of Minersource. Drop ship units to India and then onward to Dubai or something like that. Sure you can find a freight forwarder to help you achieve that without having to deal with Minersource at all.

Have a look at the Technobit / Minersource fubar build black arrow chip build to give you all the information you need to know. Something stinks and that might not be Thomas S but is someone on the payroll there and with so many other options to get hardware you are BEST to AVOID Minersource, Technobit and Black Arrow.

Like I said go with SPtech to drop ship and rebundle in India or Singapore and then on to you.
670  Bitcoin / Hardware / BitFury turns down the heat with purchase of Allied Control on: January 30, 2015, 07:53:33 AM
Wow! This is interesting. What else can that canned heat you take out of the system do for a cloud operation? Installed on a farm with an existing biodigestor genset system is quite feasible and could be zero $$$ power cost.

As part of a move to expand into supercomputing and deal with the excess heat that is a byproduct of bitcoin mining, BitFury Group, a bitcoin infrastructure provider and transaction processing company, has purchased Allied Control, which makes cooling systems for supercomputing and data centers.
671  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic for home mining. on: January 29, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
Frankly I am the little guy looking at the camera saying wtf?

I think all of this started when I stumbled on the westhash-nicehash problem for GAW-ZEN.  The problem was on GAW-ZEN not westhash or nicehash

 That was  Back in August- Sept.

Somehow I manage to attract too much attention on this site.

I can blame all that on FriedCat and his tubes , but in the world of BTC

5 months ago is more like 50 years ago. so that story is old.

 I think I should consider taking a bit of a vacation from writing any posts.
I am renting my signature and have been paid to do so up front. Once that time has passed I may just read posts rather then write them.  I am too old to be playing around on the net on this forum or any other.

Meh... you should be posting and playing devils advocate more not less.
672  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]340$ the sales promotion of hosted antminer S5(golden psu included) on: January 29, 2015, 04:54:25 AM
It would have been nice if you used regular sized letters for the text. We can surely read it.

Now you look like a scam artist getting ready to run
i have sold more than 1000 units miners on this forum and won 18 trust by customer

I would say that this member of the community is well known and provides what he promises without any complaints that I know of currently.

Again one would have to review the numbers but you will get what he is providing as advertized.
673  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] B's Moderated Biased & Opinionated Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: January 29, 2015, 04:42:01 AM
Whatever you need if I can offer assistance let me know we all know that only moving to a group or communal cloud for mining makes economic sense. 2000W is not enough power to see savings in a home or SOHO setting.

My view which is obviously shared and espoused on by Guy in his October talk video is that chasing ZERO $$$ electricity per kWh is the way to go. How?

Solar, Wind, Biodigestor gas gensets with mining providing additional heat to help keep digester temps optimal in winter.

Give me that solution and you will get on top of the problem of building only in Iceland for cooling. There is synergy in using farm waste and green energy solutions to make mining payoff more than just a straight up massive chicken farm or data center arrangement. If you are not working out how to get those electrical costs to ZERO you are going to lose in 2017.

Bick it is really hard to make something work.

I have been called a minion of spondoolies-tech for posting the polls.
 I am about the deal for the miners what works best.
 BTW I have told more then one person to use this thread


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0  for mining with a host.

I break down that if you have 11 cent or more power the thread above is better then in house mining.

I clearly show that this is better at the moment for a little guy to do over spondoolies-tech cloud mining offering.

So I am picking a China based person using s-5's over SP-techs cloud offerings.

I did this on multiple threads

twice on spondoolies main thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10257658#msg10257658
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521520.msg10273274#msg10273274

Guy was good enough to let it stay up on the thread.

right now mining is very hard for people to do.

 I looked at the hardware thread page 1.

 Fact 1)Very Slim pickings for gear choices.
        2) most threads have bitmaintech gear or sp-tech gear.
        3) no mechanism for up to date info on what to buy.

Yeah flaws abound for every builder of gear .
One way to make BTC stick around is to have a good forum not one with chiselers and hustlers.

Getting in the middle of this is not my desire but we need a way to inform people of what is worth while. here are  two flaw per each of the top 3 builders.

1) single biggest flaw for bitmaintech is if you gear is not working it is a real hassle.
2) firmware for bitmaintech is spotty.

1) sp-tech fucked up the summer launch of the sp-30 it was under specced
2) sp-tech was optimistic by saying the sp20 does 1700gh

1)asic miner has been late with the tube  and the prisma
2) a ton of asic miner gear runs hot melt downs popped caps etc.

I do not follow avalon or bit fury so it is not fair to complain about them or list two flaws.

Those 6 flaws I listed are true but I will guarantee you the very fact I put down only flaws will bring anger and denials. yada yada yada.

the 3 above are big sellers and have sold a lot of stuff to us miners.


674  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Philipma1957's attempt to rate current Manufacturers of Asic for home mining. on: January 28, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
I applaud the effort it should give at least some solace to the last few bitter diehards still buying units for home use.


Feel sad for Dogie how will he get google to take down this survey form?
675  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [17th Dec] on: January 28, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
1) The SP10, SP30, SP31, SP35 aare all indstrial non consumer miners, so I'm not sure how you can say that. Even the SP20 is barely considerable as a consumer unit as it has to be underclocked to 60-75% to be usable in the home.
Pardon ? I have three SP20's running in my home at full speed. In North America on 120V residential circuits. Many others do as well.

Dude, what's wrong with you ? You know better than this.

The fact that Bitfury is number 1 as they no longer sell to customers the average forum-reader, and Avalon is number 2 considering their history, I'm calling shenanigans on your entire asinine list.

It should be Spondoolies #1, Bitmain #2, and whatever way you want to rate the others that follow.


676  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 28, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
My predictions, three months ago: Bitcoin TLV `14, #25 - Guy Corem - Mining Forecast
BitFury revealed their mining address two days afterwards. I didn't expect to see AntPool grow so much.
Let's see how the rest of my predictions will be in 2015. It was based of BTC value of $400

The rest of Inside Bitcoin TLV lectures can be found here: Inside Bitcoins Tel Aviv 2014t
I think that it was one of the best Inside Bitcoin conferences ever. Kudos to Meni Rosenfeld.

Updated?

General comments now Guy on what you think is going to happen in the next few months?

* Edit... Thanks for the answer.
677  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] B's Moderated Biased & Opinionated Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: January 28, 2015, 10:39:05 AM
There is seemingly one person in particularly in bitcointalk that likes to hang himself with the rope he gives himself or shoots his own foot off with his own gun... this is certainly a case in point. It was ANYTHING but spam given the lax rules on that and how Dogie posts to bump his paying customers threads.

Nothing gained in deleting these poll posts other than to keep pointing out the inadequacy of the competition at the customer service level. Clearly the polls are embarrassing for most ASIC fabricators.

 Dogie attempts to strangle the voice of the community.

It really should be worrying that Dogie a paid promoter is trying to degrade and stop open debate about the practices of the ASIC manfucturers.

Why should this community be held hostage to one view point on hardware?

Not looking to do this anymore.

 Since this was cancelled to be fair Spondoolies-Tech ask me to do the thread and poll.
...
Confirmed. I also asked Philip to post whatever questions he wants and to freely change our questions if he wants to.
I believe Dogie's thread become irrelevant.
I opened a meta thread to discuss the poll removal by the mods, without any explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938782.0

Truly sad to see it closed.  I will not post my thoughts, just that I think someone has a lot of pull on what happens. Apparently this poll he did not like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

The voice of the community before it was brutally shutdown:

678  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs on: January 28, 2015, 10:35:14 AM
add another vote from me to Spondoolies - very impressed with their equipment, service and support
Thank you. Unfortunately the poll suffered unexplained untimely death.

Guy

It wasn't one "poll."  It was five polls.  In five separate threads.  All posted by the same person.  Because you paid him.

And the explanation is simply that "spam will be deleted."

Offtopic.

679  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs scam?? on: January 28, 2015, 10:34:21 AM
so i have to hope they give my btc back or wait till they send me the miners  Undecided

Ask for a refund.
680  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] B's Moderated Biased & Opinionated Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: January 28, 2015, 10:27:05 AM
 Dogie attempts to strangle the voice of the community.

It really should be worrying that Dogie a paid promoter is trying to degrade and stop open debate about the practices of the ASIC manfucturers.

Why should this community be held hostage to one view point on hardware?

Not looking to do this anymore.

 Since this was cancelled to be fair Spondoolies-Tech ask me to do the thread and poll.
...
Confirmed. I also asked Philip to post whatever questions he wants and to freely change our questions if he wants to.
I believe Dogie's thread become irrelevant.
I opened a meta thread to discuss the poll removal by the mods, without any explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938782.0

Truly sad to see it closed.  I will not post my thoughts, just that I think someone has a lot of pull on what happens. Apparently this poll he did not like.

Snapshot of the manufacturers poll Philipma1957 ran before the mods killed it off



I find the mods action unbelievable.

Guy

Edit:
I opened a meta thread to discuss the poll removal by the mods, without any explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938782.0
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