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441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 25, 2016, 04:59:58 AM
Time to mine...in the middle of the ocean:

http://imgur.com/gallery/NvBrj5J


Talk about putting your mining hardware through hell.

Sea water would destroy everything, and you can even see the rust on the prototype near the ladder. Imagine what that does to precision electronics...

pretty sure seawater doesnt go INSIDE the structure
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred GPU Miner v3.2 on: April 23, 2016, 04:46:19 PM
I used to mine with Ethos, now claymore seems to be available only on windows. Does anybody have any idea on how much RAM I need per card ? Most of my rigs are with 390s. The good thing about Ethos was that it was running fine with only 4Gb of RAM for a 6 card rig and not even consuming all 4.

To mine ETH you need a minimum 2 Gb RAM per card, otherwise the DAG won't load into the cards's memory

so, my fifth card wont work with 8gb of ram?! sh Angry Angry, i did not know that...

unless this software is different, thats false.

etereum needs as much system ram as it needs GPU ram, because the DAG is loaded on both. But it only needs one copy in the ram for every running instance (and the DAG is only ~1.4GB, so even 5 seperate ethminer instances would be ~7.1GB of RAM usage)

if you have all your cards running in te same instance of ethminer your RAM usage will only be 1.4Gb (size of the DAG)
443  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BTCS Dumping SP35s for SP50s on: April 23, 2016, 04:40:25 PM
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And logistics of sitting up a ton of GPU machins, and troubleshooting them.... I don't see anyone picking a industrial size gpu farm.

I wouldn't not worth it most im gonna do is 6 or 7 build them in PC sense i can all ways use one or two more PC's for other things and maybe rent a few form time to time sense the rent on them is not to bad you can actually make something renting not much but something .


there have been plenty of 100+ GPU setups in the past, but even 100 R9-380 cards would only draw ~20kW, which is a drop in the bucket for a facility that can handle at least 10x that much equipment. They would need to run 500+ GPUs to even remotely make proper use of the facility

BUT... if they did, it could be solid returns and resale/liquidation may be much easier than it is with bitcoin ASICs.

1) build a simple, functional, rackmounted system with cheap components (<$200 for mobo/ram/cpu/etc/crappy 350W ATX PSU) that can handle 5 GPUs (powered by a single 1250W server PSU, which they likely have hundreds of lying around from SP10/3x/50). costs beyond the GPU alone would be minimal, at least $50 savings over even the most budget home-made rigs due to bulk purchases and existing infrastructure

2) using either linux-on-a-USB or linux/windows running on a <$20 32GB SATA, set up the software side to start mining on boot and open a teamviewer or other remote-interface program. (remember they designed some pretty good interfaces on the ASIC hardware, a linux/windows remote monitoring app would be a breeze).

3) Replicate the system, with the exact components dozens of times (should take <30min/rig if the OS is programmed right) until you have at least 100 rigs, which could likely be fully assembled and functional by a small <5 person team within a week. They then mine at a decent profit because they pay ~$0.05/kwh, assuming r9-380x tats about $2-3/GPU/day in profit, or about $1000-1500 for a 500-card assembly. Within a year they could be looking at >$200,000 in revenue (after power costs and assuming a gradual decline in profitability), with ~$125,000 in initial hardware costs and probably $75,000 worth of costs related to their lease and minimal income for those involved in the initial assembly and ongoing operations.

notice that's effectively a $25,000 loss after 1 year, assuming that GPU mining maintains profitability. (brief price movements like in ethereum could add another $100,000+ of revenue, making it profitable). They also now have ~$60,000 worth of consumer hardware that could be liquidated without much difficulty, assuming they dont continue to mine for 1-2 more years before the 380 is obsolete.
444  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 25 BTC REDEEMED 2011 Casascius Coin w/peeled hologram AUCTION 2 OF 3 on: April 22, 2016, 04:35:21 AM
0.5BTC

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445  Economy / Auctions / Re: ❎ 1 oz Silver/Gold Lealana - Start Bid 0.01 BTC on: April 21, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
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446  Other / Archival / Re: [AUCTION] 1 x 2013 LEALANA BUYER-FUNDED #9950 UNGRADED/UNFUNED - ENDS APRIL 26! on: April 21, 2016, 06:56:03 PM
0.17BTC

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447  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 21, 2016, 06:49:26 PM

I frequently drive my S7 up into the 68-75C range in order to keep down the fan noise, and it hasnt been an issue yet as long as it doesnt start beeping at 80C+

How safe is it to run thse units that hot?
I dropped my S7 F1 down to 600mhz and it was running 40mins @ 68C  then come night time it was 82C. It did not beep.

It's plenty safe, but the cooler you can keep electronics running the longer they will last.  75*C is pushing it, though, you don't have much room for error if you're running that hot.

High 70's scares me, a lot of equipment shut down at 80 C.  I was told on S3's long ago that they had been tested at much higher .... but I personally never felt safe.  And it's coming up to summer so a lot of us are going to get hotter.

My only thing is lots and lots of CFM's push the hot air away from miners and exhaust it with a nice exhaust.

I was running my S7 in some pretty extreme conditions, drawing -15C cold air, running fans at 20%, 800MHz, and ~5.1TH, getting temps in the 78-85 range (unit stops at 85, not 80) for a few days strght in the coldest part of winter, but with every 1C warmer outside, temps of the unit rose ~1C and i had to drop 10Mhz.

SP-3x series miners routinely have 110-120C temps on the individual ASIC chips, with 70-80C exhaust temperatures.
448  Other / Archival / Re: . on: April 20, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
any chance you have the peeled hologram? might add ~0.1BTc of value to the listing

price is already too high for me, i almost bid around 0.35 and then realised there was a second page of bids XD   guess im appy with te unpeeled coins i still have
449  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB][CANADA] Antminer S4/S5 FAN on: April 20, 2016, 07:05:01 PM
I have a box full of S1 fans, but the wire on them is likely too short (its ~10cm long)

if you can use them, let me know. There are about 6-8 of them are sitting unused in toronto and i would sell them for cheap
450  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 20, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
Let's continue with BTC stuff, here is mine: ...
Looks great! What's the temperature inside the cabinet?
The highest temperature they have got is around 65 deg Celsius.
Summer is coming, let's see that what is the situation then.
Open the doors during the summer  Cheesy

I frequently drive my S7 up into the 68-75C range in order to keep down the fan noise, and it hasnt been an issue yet as long as it doesnt start beeping at 80C+
451  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BTCS Dumping SP35s for SP50s on: April 20, 2016, 06:58:45 PM
Will they sell at that price, what with being able to buy something a third the size and power consumption for about the same hashrate (and less noise) for the same money or less in brand new gear?

worth keeping in mind that it includes two powerful PSUs (at $150 value each likely), so its not purely a $/hashrate issue like with the antminer

and since SP doesn't sell replacements, that value sticks in multiple venues of sale.

That brings up another issue though.  If you have a problem with say hashing board or some component you likely are going to have to use secondary market just like you talk on PSU's.  So keeping PSU's is great for re-sale, but if you have a problem with any  components it's not so great due to high prices of secondary market in most cases.

has anyone been able to run the SPxx series without the natively-included power supplies?  A while back i tried to put an Sp10 PSU in an SP3X and it just wouldn't recognize it or mine on that board. It would be neat if there was a way to run an undervolted Sp3x on a single PSU (the native one or an external) and liquidate the fancy internal PSUs
452  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BTCS Dumping SP35s for SP50s on: April 20, 2016, 06:54:45 PM
To be fair, when B1 S7 rolled out, everyone looked at it and said yeah that's overpriced by many hundreds of dollars and even with free electric it might never break even. Really, anyone who bought it was asking to be ripped off.

agreed. it was like 1.7BTC/TH initially IIRC, when ~1.2BTC/TH would have been reasonable. but noone was forcing people to buy hardware without doing the propoer cost analysis and predicting the price/difficulty movements of the future.

IMO best time to buy miners is when the BTC price is peaking out, or starting to dip. liquidate coins into hardware at a fair price, and watch as BTC value drops, difficulty stagnates, and your hardware preserves its $fiat value. I rode out the $1000->$300 bearish period quite well doing this, and drastically cut my losses in comparison to having simply held coins
453  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: April 20, 2016, 06:46:45 PM
i'm using an evga 1300w ps, maybe the new one fan units require all 3 power plugs to be populated? tried all three in one board to no avail

definitely try to get more power for that unit, you may not have enough stable power to allow the boards to hash. use the 1300watt for 2 boards, and then another power supply to power 1 board and the module.

or just underclock it by ~50MHz/100w
454  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [14000Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB on: April 20, 2016, 06:45:31 PM
new method of payout sounds promising, if quite unclear.

my best guess is tat people who opt for sort-term PPS/PPLNS can get daily payouts at ~98%, while those who are comfortable waiting on solved blocks can get weekly payouts at ~102%
455  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BTCS Dumping SP35s for SP50s on: April 16, 2016, 01:49:54 PM
Will they sell at that price, what with being able to buy something a third the size and power consumption for about the same hashrate (and less noise) for the same money or less in brand new gear?

worth keeping in mind that it includes two powerful PSUs (at $150 value each likely), so its not purely a $/hashrate issue like with the antminer
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum mining still profitable? on: April 16, 2016, 01:35:19 PM
Mining Ether is starting to get crappy, with the high difficulty and drop in price.  I'm on ethermine and I could login and see my balance ticking up quite nicely but now it nearly moves, I know I can't be earning what they estimate.  I might point my hardware over to nano and if I still don't like it I'll point to another alt that's more volatile.  Another alt will rise up one day but for now its slim profits all around.

If your electricity price is over $0.2, you will not be profitable when the difficulty double from current level.

who knows ? If the price goes up ? Even Eth mining is becoming less profitable, yet the best coin to mine now... Am I wrong ?

theres an x11 coin thats a bit more profitable i think (not by much, its about $1.25-$1.50/R9,270x/day)
457  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 08, 2016, 06:57:53 PM
This is a really unprofessional and expensive setup.
Its obvious that cards can't cool adequately, not enough space between them and why are they so high above the MB?
And why use 2 PSUs, when u can use 1 only if you had the soldering skills, one PSU is much more efficient, we are talking 100-200 wats.
Its not a bad rig, but it hasn't been though thru enough, and quite a lazy setup.


P.S. Its also obvious, that if someone tries to pick it up from the sides, and squeezes, they might break off, cause they are attached only at the bottom...  Shocked Grin Huh
You are definitely not a mechanical engineer??? Cheesy

why is a single psu ~10% more efficient? If anything, loading a PSU near capacity reduces its efficiency, and PSUs in the 1200W+ range go for a significant premium over those in the 750-1000W range. (you can get a pair of 850W GOLD power supplies for about the cost of a 1300W GOLD, and get an extra ~300W of usable power)

heck, for the price of 1600W psus, you can get a trio of gold-rated 650-850W power supplies and have 30-50% more power available. Of course, it makes for a larger messier rig - but that doesnt matter for some people who have the space or a reduced budget
458  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: April 08, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
I am all for people posting their work on these forums for others to appreciate or criticize, I just feel pretty strongly it should not take an admin to MOVE YOUR HACKJOB GPU RIGS TO THE ALTCOIN FORUMS WHERE THEY BELONG!
Y'know, so that people looking to this topic for pictures and updates of BITCOIN mining rigs can find what they are looking for. I'm pretty sick of popping on here for an update or some feedback and seeing the thread hijacked for fly-by-night ETH miners trying to sell their rigs that any noob can slap together in a couple hours.


easy noobie. This thread is "Pictures of your mining rigs" no where does it specify bitcoin. Also technically since the invention of asics this thread has been off topic anyway since it has turned into "pictures of my little silver boxes sitting on shelf". Calm down. he isn't actively pushing people to his site and he isn't spamming his sales pitches. If anything his and citronicks are the first posts that are on topic of showing off a mining rig that they themselves built and not just bought from a supplier.

exactly. bitcoin mining rigs became far less exciting when it moved from GPU rigs -> FPGA towers -> USB clusters -> a stack of sealed ASIC miners

hackjob GPU rigs are my favorite <3
459  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2016, 06:42:49 PM
Bitcoin stable, ETH about to crash hard (I hope so).
Moved funds to exchange, hoping to catch a falling ethereal knife. Grin


I remain surprised regarding how long ETH has remained "Up"


Really, ETH probably does not deserve a value of much more than $1.50 per ETH, yet I suspect that it is going to remain above $3 , and possibly even $5 for some time, and furthermore, I would not be surprised if ETH gets pumped again to some outlandish and unsustainable value of $25.. hahahahaha..

Kind of crazy seeing how speculation works in the quasi-centralized coins (surely ETH is not as centralized as Ripple, during the Ripple pump from a couple years ago.. and look Ripple seems to remain considerably overvalued, too)

ive learned to not always short the bubble, since sometimes they take weeks to pop, and can even trail higher first.

ethereum as a long list of benefits, but its far less simple than bitcoin. nobody can give you a direct answer for when PoW switches to PoS (before it was said to be july-september, now its being said to happen as late as october-december, if not 2017). Couple that with more 'phases' and codenames (homefront, frontier, etc) than an android phone, and i expect it to simmer back down to the $5-8 range for a while
460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2016, 06:38:56 PM
weekends always have fairly inconsequential jumps/dips, i dont take them into account for trend direction unless it maintains through monday.

i expect within the next two weeks we will see a "crash" into $410-415 range, bouncing off (or just below) the lower trend line, and then pulling back up to $425 again over the span of another week to the point that it breaches the upper trendline and we see the rally begin.

and then its choo choo MF right up into the $600 range for summertime
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