They must of known I was coming! lol... I did notice there were no trades for a good few hours but of course having never used it that could of been normal... Okay well for now I have signed up with bitstamp and I will try to add it on ripple and see what happens.

Maybe as it is down it might not let me, we will see.

Thanks again...

Btw what is causing the high price for xrp? How do they have any value at all? Considering they are just being given away and such. And they are 100% premined... Got any theories on that?

Does the gateway go down a lot then? What would cause that exactly?

Hmmm that sucks a bit... So I sign up with bitstamp or the other one then add that as my gateway and then I can sell the xrp's? Then I guess I can withdraw the BTC to my preferred exchange from there? Or does the BTC stay within ripple?

Say I add bitstamp then sell do the BTC's stay within ripple or do they show on bitstamp?

Thanks for the replies anyway guys.

So no-one wants my scamcoins? Lol

I guess xrp's are worth precisely 0 then...

So I tried looking for a guide and to be honest it was over my head... It mentioned I have to open a gateway to bitstamp (a service I have never used) and then I got lost, lol...

So how do I get rid of these things? What are they even worth? I looked on the bitcoin charts and saw 6300/btc. Is that right? So I have 3000, that means they are worth nearly half a BTC? Is that for real?

I can't believe they are worth that much considering it was a 100% premine lol...

But hey if someone wants to give me that for them then I will happily accept! lmao...

I normally use vircurex to trade on (the small trading I do), can I use that as my "gateway"? To be honest the entire ripple concept seems very complicated and I don't fully understand it. I know they want to lick government boots and that is about it...

So who wants my coins? Or can someone instruct me how I can get rid via an exchange?

Much appreciated, thanks

Ahhh okay then, lol... Yeah I know they are far better and more efficient but it is just getting hold of one that is the problemand you have to tread carefully due to all the scams out there, but yeah it is a matter of time. I can't believe china hasn't started pumping them out on mass yet!

Why would I notice you not being interested in LTC? lol... Are you a woman by any chance? My mrs thinks I should be able to read her mind too! lmao...

You could well be right about BTC falling and thus LTC falling with it but you could also be very wrong, it can go either way if you ask me. No-one really knows or can predict what will happen in 6 months. The ceo of ebay is talking about intergrating BTC into paypal and if that plays out who knows where the price will end up...

The fact does remain though that people have been saying since the beginning that it will fail within months/years and that you shouldn't bother and that it is a pyramid scheme and a scam etc... But even with all the bad press and attacks it has still continued. I learned about bitcoin when it was at £3, most people wouldn't believe it would get to £100+... I still laugh everytime I see the comments after a hack or something... "that's it, finally bitcoin will die now, all those stupid people deserve to lose their money" etc... But here it is, still going strong.

I am only going to mine litecoin from now on, it is the only one I see as a contender... Yeah I know BBQ can show as profitable for a couple hours but as soon as difficulty goes up then you are back below the profitability line and so it is pointless. And if the guys at BBQ.org continue on track then they are doomed to fail. They dont even come say hi when you introduce yourself lol... I tried to gain interest and increase the traffic and conversation but to no avail... There is hardly anyone that goes to the site. Yet admin claim to recieve 50 emails a day! Lmao... Be nice if they could tell those people to post on the bloomin forum. Though I suspect it is lies.

I think all these alt coins are there to distract miners from real cryptocoins. Nothing more.

Case in point, just read this on btc-e

"I was going to buy a ton of bfl but after reading and crunching numbers, I bought a ton of GPU gear instead. I'll mine on it until its unprofitable or replaced by REAL asics in a few months, then re-sell them for about 80% purchase cost"

I see a LOT of comments like this... Untill there is a reliable supplier of asics gpu's will still be used. And even then you still have scrypt (for now)... Of course eventually gpu mining will die off but not yet or for a long while is my bet.

People were saying a couple years ago that it was dead and not to bother, but here we are...

Oh, so have they got asics for scrypt already then? When did those come out? Aren't thousands of people still waiting on their sha asics?

I think there is a fair bit of millage left, I always see people talking about buying new gpu rigs so I guess they didn't get the memo either :0 lol...

When I become rich (2099?) then I will defo hire you.

Hey there, didn't realize at first but you are the creator of cgminer aren't you? Good work there btw. Are you involved in any similar projects? Also have you ever thought of writing a custom bios for amd cards? Is that even possible?

I am just thinking the bios we have right now is designed for gaming in mind so I would guess there is some bloatware in there (talking from a mining perspective) that we don't need? Maybe there are some gains to be made there?

I am a pc newb as you can no doubt tell but just an idea.

Not sure how true this is but I have read that most cards don't have the thermometer diode on the vram anymore, they just have like a safety cut off so that they will never get to dagerous temps. They said only high end cards like the toxic has them...

That is why they can not be read... Sounds reasonable to me.

Guys, sorry to be a pain but does anyone know how I would go about monitoring memory temps? Just seen that I should be doing that :0 lol...

Which memory were they reffering to? My guess is the gpu ram as they were talking about water cooling...

So I searched and downloaded GPUZ and that didn't tell me memory temp unfortunately, atleast not that I can see, then I tried hwmonitor and that doesn't either...

So does anyone know how I go about doing that? Cheers.

Well youtube plays a little better but it really kills me hashrate, sends it down into the low 400's!

I did see in the cpu bios the option to start up with my onboard graphics and was wondering if cgminer will see my cards if I do... I am guessing it won't though as it doesn't see my onboard graphics... I did see a work around though with the dummy plug idea. How do people come up with this stuff? lol Just start sticking electrical components into the sockets and see what happens? lmao...

Anyway if I'm feeling brave I may give that a go.

Just had a liitle mess around with the MSI card and got

core 1070
mem 1760
fan 65%
temp 68

hashrate 753!

It has been stable so far, I reckon I could push it more but don't want to brake something! lol

Think I just solved the artifacting issue I was getting too, or at least made it 10 times better... I turned hardware accellaration off on firefox, so far the blocks have gone!

I will go check youtube now cos that doesn't like playing at all while I'm mining! No matter what the clockspeeds are! lol

What, including cpu/motherboard etc? And you was getting 700 Mh/s? That is pretty impressive mate, nice one...

So I am restricted to flashing powercolor bios? That sucks then, I don't have many options in that range. Do these manufacturers ever update the bios? is it worth looking out for newer ones?

I have reverted back to the old bios anyway and getting pretty good results considering I had to throttle the other back due to the heat, now it is much better temp and noise wise...

powercolor stock bios

core 964
mem 1500
fan 65%
temp 74
hashrate 680

Not too bad, would still like to hit 700 but if it means I have to listen to a jumbo jet then er no... lol

I paid more for the MSI card and now I know why! At first I thought I was ripped off a little (and still do a bit due to getting no free games ) but really it is a better card.

I have never owned a graphics card before and bought them basically to mine with so that I can effectively have a top notch game machine on the cheap!

So far I have knocked off over a 100 quid so it is getting cheaper everyday!

Plus I have learned so much about PC's and how to put one together and what all the components actually do! It has been really fun! Glad the naysayers didn't put me off lol...

Anyway fella thanks again for all your help, it is great to have helpful people in the community.

Wow, okay that is pretty nice, may I ask what your power savings or temp saving were by having those settings?

Oh and what do you normally get out of your 7970 when srcypt mining? I think the MSI card is really great for scrypt, i can push that one to 750! The max I can get out of the powerccolor is abot 730 and that is after I flashed it...


Have you ever flushed your cards? Does it actually work? I will look into it anyway so thanks for putting me on to that.

Oh sorry, one more question... I tried to flasdh the MSI bios to the powercolor, but it didn't work, just got a black screen, is that a no no? Can I only flash other powercolor bios?

And what is with the phishing scam warning? :0

Here are some stats for the 2 cards

Flashed powercolor

core 970
mem 1530
fan 75%
temps 81
hashrate 680 (can get higher but temps go way up)

MSI ghz card (not flashed)
core 1040
mem 1740
fan 60%
temps 71
hashrate 731

There is a big difference here, I know the top card (yeah no risers yet) will have higher temps but not that much higher and not when there is such a difference with clock speeds. Before I flashed it it was the easier (quiter) of the cards to keep cool. But then I could only get like 660 tops with high overclocks with scrypt or sha...

Hmmmm that is pretty good then but still I was up all night trying to get a good bitcoin hashrate to no avail... Just out of curiosity what hashrate are you getting with bitcoin?

Oh and another thing I flashed one of my cards and it did bump up the hashrate but temps seem to be a lot higher. Even though I have clocks set lower than the non flashed card... And I get lower hashrate too (than the non flashed card which is clocked way higher)...

I was thinking, is there no way to make a custom bios for mining? Surely we can make gains in this area?

Okay I gave up with bitcoin, just can not get a good hashrate no matter what I try, tried various catalyst/cgminer configerations but max I can get is 660 and even then it is really unstable...

Back to mining scrypt and within 2 mins I have both cards at 712/720, I get some srtifacting but other than that it is stable... I don't understand it but it is what it is...

Thanks for your help anyway.

Hey thanks for your comment, sorry I have only just seen it, really do appreciate the help... I find it strange but I can get 750 kh/s with litecoin no problem, I thought with bitcoin I should get around the same but even easier to achieve... I was up all last night playing with the damn settings lol...

I will try your suggestion right now and report back how I got on...

Btw if I have -g2 the hashrate jumps around a lot, though it does go higher, only thing is I think it is very inaccurate. Sometimes it will jump to 800+ lol...

Edit: Ok so just looked on MSI and I can not set it to 50mhz (I thought that sounded way too low anyway), the minimum is 685... Did you make a mistake there?